I just learned that I have the adrenal body type and I am doing Keto....
crystalangel7770
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Was wondering if anyone else out there with this issues and are you having any success staying in ketosis
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What's an adrenal body type, and how did you determine that you are one?7
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stanmann571 wrote: »What's an adrenal body type, and how did you determine that you are one?
Look up Dr Berg on Google - have a barf bag handy when you do...3 -
OP you don't have an adrenal body type, don't overcomplicate weight loss, it's pretty straightforward.
Excerpt taken from http://www.sheilakealey.com/nutrition-experts-shouldnt-trust-2/
"Eric Berg
Eric Berg is a popular health and wellness “expert” (actually a chiropractor who has ventured beyond his realm of expertise). He has a website and many videos promoting unscientific health advice, and books including The 7 Principles of Fat Burning: Get Healthy, Lose Weight, and Keep it Off! and Dr. Berg’s Body Shapes Diets. Some of his bogus health and wellness treatments have included Body Response Technique, Nambudripad’s Allergy Elimination Technique, Contact Reflex Analysis, and testing with an Acoustic Cardiograph. His unsubstantiated claims for his therapeutic treatments have been the subject of disciplinary action by the Virginia Board of Medicine. Some of his treatments relate to “adrenal fatigue” – a term not recognized by any endocrinology society and a syndrome that experts have confirmed does not exist.
Some of his diet advice is extremely and unnecessarily restrictive (anti-wheat; anti-carbohydrate); he advocates weight loss based on a bogus hormone body type (adrenal, ovary, liver, thyroid); talks about “fat burning” hormones (they don’t exist); and includes a “detox phase” in his diet plan (a term that should raise your quack alarm).
As typical with many of these so-called health experts, his website includes a shop with unproven supplements (e.g. adrenal body type package, estrogen balance kit) that beyond being a complete waste of money, could quite possibly do you more harm than good."16 -
crystalangel7770 wrote: »Was wondering if anyone else out there with this issues and are you having any success staying in ketosis
Forget the body type stuff, it doesn't exist. I know a great many people have good results with keto, but it's too restrictive for me. If you're determined to do it, this group might be helpful: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
You don't have to follow any particular 'diet' to be successful, though. Give this a read for the basics: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p16 -
crystalangel7770 wrote: »Was wondering if anyone else out there with this issues and are you having any success staying in ketosis
Forget the body type stuff, it doesn't exist. I know a great many people have good results with keto, but it's too restrictive for me. If you're determined to do it, this group might be helpful: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
You don't have to follow any particular 'diet' to be successful, though. Give this a read for the basics: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
All of this^^ Especially that last link @pinuplove posted.4 -
Guess what - I took the quiz and I'm also the "adrenal body type", but funny enough I skipped most questions because I did not have any of their symptoms.
OP - don't fall into this scam. There is no such thing as a "body type" which prohibits you from losing or requires you to do a special diet plan. Maintain a calorie deficit - put your info into MFP and have a reasonable weight loss plan (0.5-1 pound a week is reasonable for most), weigh your food and log everything you consume (avoiding homemade and generic entries). Move more - if this means you only walk 5 minutes a day while gradually working up to 30 minutes a day then so be it. Have patience.6 -
i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis2
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deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
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my sister wants to lose weight fast so she goes super restrictive, follows any fad (cayenne pepper, cold potatoes, cabbage soup) burns out, goes back to normal - still obese.
a friend of mine spends a fortune on jenny craig - learns nothing about how to eat, then left to her own devices, goes back to normal - still obese.
another friend is convinced she has to do keto, then paleo, then IF, then she goes out for a night with the girls, goes back to old habits - still obese.
i (not to toot my own horn) downloaded MFP, counted calories, ate whatever i wanted (just not as much) - lost 143 pounds and have been maintaining for two years.
here's what this has taught me - there are no shortcuts. if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
forget body type, blood type, where the moon is orbiting, etc. - figure out how many calories you need to maintain your current weight, then eat less than that. do that until you're at a healthy weight. then figure out how much you need to maintain that weight - eat that much.27 -
people do want a shortcut for everything1
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quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements
Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."2 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."
I assumed the bolded. :laugh: Thanks!2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."
I assumed the bolded. :laugh: Thanks!
Are adrenal fatigue and leaky gut syndrome often "diagnosed" together?1 -
singingflutelady wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."
I assumed the bolded. :laugh: Thanks!
Are adrenal fatigue and leaky gut syndrome often "diagnosed" together?
I work in GI and this one kills me. I have patients asking about it and how to be tested for it then get upset when I try to tell them it doesn't exist.1 -
wouldn't surprise me....the only people i see tout it are wanna-be triathlon coaches0
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singingflutelady wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."
I assumed the bolded. :laugh: Thanks!
Are adrenal fatigue and leaky gut syndrome often "diagnosed" together?
I work in GI and this one kills me. I have patients asking about it and how to be tested for it then get upset when I try to tell them it doesn't exist.
Oh I bet! I'm a GI patient (I have Crohn's-currently gastroduodenal was Crohn's colitis with perianal disease but I had a total proctocolectomy with end ileostomy in May plus I have severe gastroparesis) and have had people compare their leaky gut to my Crohn's or fistulas. Um ok whatever.2 -
singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."
I assumed the bolded. :laugh: Thanks!
Are adrenal fatigue and leaky gut syndrome often "diagnosed" together?
I work in GI and this one kills me. I have patients asking about it and how to be tested for it then get upset when I try to tell them it doesn't exist.
Oh I bet! I'm a GI patient (I have Crohn's-currently gastroduodenal was Crohn's colitis with perianal disease but I had a total proctocolectomy with end ileostomy in May plus I have severe gastroparesis) and have had people compare their leaky gut to my Crohn's or fistulas. Um ok whatever.
Sorry for that!0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i love that adrenal fatigue is one of the newest things being hyped on athletic boards and YET there is nothing on any endocrinology website/association that validates it as a diagnosis
I keep hearing it, but haven't looked into what it supposedly is. What does it even allegedly mean?
It means you have a fake illness and need to buy some fake supplements Another excerpt (Mayo Clinic)
"The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function — but your body is.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called adrenal fatigue may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."
I assumed the bolded. :laugh: Thanks!
Are adrenal fatigue and leaky gut syndrome often "diagnosed" together?
I work in GI and this one kills me. I have patients asking about it and how to be tested for it then get upset when I try to tell them it doesn't exist.
Oh I bet! I'm a GI patient (I have Crohn's-currently gastroduodenal was Crohn's colitis with perianal disease but I had a total proctocolectomy with end ileostomy in May plus I have severe gastroparesis) and have had people compare their leaky gut to my Crohn's or fistulas. Um ok whatever.
Sorry for that!
That goodness my fistulas are now a non issue (I had the surgery because of them) but I guess I can say my gut was actually leaking and let's just say it was very very obvious
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Before I went Keto I had issues with my mood and suffered from hypoglycemia (I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes at the age of eight). I often had trouble focusing in school and had at least one glycemic event per week. My running was good, but it could of been better. I’ve decided to go Keto after seeing my mother benefit both mentally and physically from the diet, and ever since I’ve been living a even better life. My mood has gotten significantly better, my hypoglycemia is non-existent, and I’ve had many improvements to my endurance sports. Despite the somewhat-popular belief that fat makes you fat, my weight has remained unchanged.
Since starting Keto at 16 I was 5'9 and 150 lbs. Now (age nineteen) I am... 5'9 and 150 lbs with 8% body fat. My LDL level (amount of "bad" cholesterol in my body) for this year is 137mg/dL, which is normal despite consuming 30-60g of saturated fats a day. That is my success with Keto. My mother (who is now 50) has been in Keto for three years now and has experienced similar benefits (minus the glycemic benefits as she doesn't suffer from it). This is despite her having half a thyroid.
If I may ask, what exactly is the "adrenal body type?" Was this provided by your primary care or nutritionist?
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Interesting note - I was diagnosed with "adrenal fatigue" by my chiropractor. In general she believes in integrating many types of medical care for most issues. Coincidentally, I had a CT scan for another issue and the radiologist noted that my right adrenal gland is inflamed. Probably just a correlation, and not causation, but I took note.4
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TyTravis007 wrote: »Before I went Keto I had issues with my mood and suffered from hypoglycemia (I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes at the age of eight). I often had trouble focusing in school and had at least one glycemic event per week. My running was good, but it could of been better. I’ve decided to go Keto after seeing my mother benefit both mentally and physically from the diet, and ever since I’ve been living a even better life. My mood has gotten significantly better, my hypoglycemia is non-existent, and I’ve had many improvements to my endurance sports. Despite the somewhat-popular belief that fat makes you fat, my weight has remained unchanged.
Since starting Keto at 16 I was 5'9 and 150 lbs. Now (age nineteen) I am... 5'9 and 150 lbs with 8% body fat. My LDL level (amount of "bad" cholesterol in my body) for this year is 137mg/dL, which is normal despite consuming 30-60g of saturated fats a day. That is my success with Keto. My mother (who is now 50) has been in Keto for three years now and has experienced similar benefits (minus the glycemic benefits as she doesn't suffer from it). This is despite her having half a thyroid.
If I may ask, what exactly is the "adrenal body type?" Was this provided by your primary care or nutritionist?
See above excerpts, it wouldn't be provided by Primary Care as it's not a medically recognised diagnosis.0 -
I find it interesting the majority of "adrenal fatigue" diagnoses are from chiropractors.3
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OP - don't fall into this scam. There is no such thing as a "body type" which prohibits you from losing or requires you to do a special diet plan. Maintain a calorie deficit - put your info into MFP and have a reasonable weight loss plan (0.5-1 pound a week is reasonable for most), weigh your food and log everything you consume (avoiding homemade and generic entries). Move more - if this means you only walk 5 minutes a day while gradually working up to 30 minutes a day then so be it. Have patience.
Just want to get back to the early simple, solid advice for the OP. I would also add that you should take several body measurements, because sooner or later, you'll get frustrated with the scale, so some other metrics will be heedful. Good luck! Stick with it, be very very patient, keep using MPF as a tool and for community support, and you will succeed.1 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »OP you don't have an adrenal body type, don't overcomplicate weight loss, it's pretty straightforward.
Excerpt taken from http://www.sheilakealey.com/nutrition-experts-shouldnt-trust-2/
"Eric Berg
Eric Berg is a popular health and wellness “expert” (actually a chiropractor who has ventured beyond his realm of expertise). [/b]
Chiropractic is non-science hokum.
So he has ventured beyond his realm of expertise in non-science hokum.
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crystalangel7770 wrote: »Was wondering if anyone else out there with this issues and are you having any success staying in ketosis
I can stay in ketosis, starting no carbs (adkins in the past) is hard until after I get through day 3. I also intermittent fast while in ketosis. I have taken the Berg survey and, like the majority, fell into the adrenal body type too but I dont pay to much attention to it. There is a lot of research out there that says different things ... I am not sure who is right, but I do find keto easier than most. Good luck on your journey
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I don't know about adrenal types, but what I would suggest is this:
Track your calories ruthlessly (I actually get up at midnight and do it if I have forgotten to do so during the day...crazy, I know.)
Check your macros daily.
See if you are losing weight and how you feel.
I can't sustain weight loss if I feel awful, i.e., have no energy, spend 99% of my day thinking about food.
I've noted that to 1) lose weight 2) feel good 3) feel it is sustainable, I need to eat about 40% product, 40% carbs and 20% fat. That's my personal formula.
Find the formula which works for you. MFP is a great tool, but tools are what we use to achieve our goals and for me, the best goal is sustainable weight loss and a feeling of well being.
Take care.
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Meta-analysis regarding the bogus, non-existent "adrenal fatigue": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997656/
Eat a reasonable diet and consume less calories than you expend for successful, sustainable weight loss. It's that simple.3 -
What everyone else said about "adrenal fatigue," but beyond that I find the idea that keto would be recommended for what is, apparently, supposed to be about chronic high stress levels and overuse of cortisol (from most descriptions of what "adrenal fatigue" is by those pushing the concept), in that one thing we know from studies is that a potential bad thing about keto is that it tends to lead to elevated cortisol.
I'm not anti keto, I think it can be a good choice for some, including those with IR or who struggle with appetite control on higher carb diets and who enjoy the keto way of eating. I don't think the cortisol issue will be a reason not to do keto if you are someone who benefits from it (in terms of sustainability of your diet/calorie deficit). But it is why I'd never do it as a cure for supposedly having chronically high cortisol or issues with having supposedly blown out my cortisol making from overuse (which again is what adrenal fatigue supposedly is). You'd want something that would put no added stress on the body.2
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