[science] if... someone would eat in a deficit and store calories as fat
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yirara
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Question says it all. Say a fairly tall, active woman would eat 1200 kcal in a day, work out a lot and gain weight (yes, I know.. it's not possible), what would theoretically happen? I'd think she'd be permanently hungry as you cannot double-dip energy, have all the signs of undernourishment. Anything else considering metabolism is so much more than just food digestion, energy utilization and storage?
Does such disease exist, and if so, for how long could someone survive?
Does such disease exist, and if so, for how long could someone survive?
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It's not possible, so it's a pointless exercise.6
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The weight she gained was not fat?1
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Water weight for like a few days, not on a sensible timescale.3 -
Question says it all. Say a fairly tall, active woman would eat 1200 kcal in a day, work out a lot and gain weight (yes, I know.. it's not possible), what would theoretically happen? I'd think she'd be permanently hungry as you cannot double-dip energy, have all the signs of undernourishment. Anything else considering metabolism is so much more than just food digestion, energy utilization and storage?
Does such disease exist, and if so, for how long could someone survive?
What would happen in that situation that can't happen? Who knows, you can get to any conclusion from a false premise. Maybe the gates of hell open inside her stomach or something.17 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
it is but it won't be in the form of tissue. Would be water or contents of the gut. In any case it would be a temporary gain.3 -
Having too much of a calorie deficit will hurt you. To figure out your BMR
Males
BMR = 66 + (13.75 x weight in kg) + (5 x height in cm) – (6.8 x age in yrs)
Females
BMR = 655 + (9.6 x weight in kg) + (1.8 x height in cm) – (4.7 x age in Yrs)
To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:
If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.1
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.275
If you are moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.35
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.525
Your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the number of calories you’d burn if you stayed in bed all day. Please note that you must never eat below your BMR calories every day otherwise you can send your body into starvation mode.
Once you are in starvation mode, you body holds on to everything it can and your BMR will slow down.
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Could the working out a lot be muscle weight?11
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If a human is consuming fewer calories than they need to maintain, their body will consume body fat (and a little bit of protein) until there is no body fat left. When there is no body fat left to consume, it will move onto muscles and organs. When your body starts eating your organs for sustenance, you'll eventually die.
How could someone gain weight while definitely eating at a deficit? Water weight, extra poo/pee in the body, muscle gain, big tumors/growths.4 -
In such a syndrome, the edema would be fairly obvious, and concentrated in the places where gravity normally puts edema.3
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stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Water weight for like a few days, not on a sensible timescale.
Most likely, but the OP never said weight was not temporary.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Water weight, but not fat.2 -
stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Water weight for like a few days, not on a sensible timescale.
You'd be surprised at how long water weight can stick around.5 -
There is so much more to it than simply calories in and out. A lot of people like to preach and swear by that here, but that's because it worked for them and they might not have any homore imbalances like Leptin Resistence, Insulin Resistance, or a myriad of other issues that could be causing weight gain or keeping you from losing weight.
If someone says it is nothing more than calories in vs calories out then mark them down as someone to ignore.34 -
Having too much of a calorie deficit will hurt you. To figure out your BMR
Males
BMR = 66 + (13.75 x weight in kg) + (5 x height in cm) – (6.8 x age in yrs)
Females
BMR = 655 + (9.6 x weight in kg) + (1.8 x height in cm) – (4.7 x age in Yrs)
To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:
If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.1
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.275
If you are moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.35
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.525
Your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the number of calories you’d burn if you stayed in bed all day. Please note that you must never eat below your BMR calories every day otherwise you can send your body into starvation mode.
Once you are in starvation mode, you body holds on to everything it can and your BMR will slow down.
This is exactly what the OP is disproving6 -
collectingblues wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Water weight for like a few days, not on a sensible timescale.
You'd be surprised at how long water weight can stick around.
Yea I have about 2-3lbs of water weight that sticks around when I'm doing my lifting program regularly, so it is part of my normal. But as soon as I stop or reduce volume, it goes. It can mess with my numbers sometimes.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Water weight for like a few days, not on a sensible timescale.
Most likely, but the OP never said weight was not temporary.
Ok, I should have been more precise: presumably fat. Water weight would show as such, as an edema.0 -
*edit. NM0
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You're arguing with someone with a scientific background that energy balance either doesn't exist or can be over-ridden?
What the hell kind of science is their background in???10
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