Fatty liver
Saifnasirpk
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Over all I'm pretty fit. I exercise regularly playing Squash, Tennis and the occasionally running but I have some fat on my liver which doctors think is causing a raised ALT. I don't drink but I eat all sorts of junk food. So I've started dieting no junks. I've already lost 6kgs, gone from 86 to 80. I want to lose 5 more. My height is 6'3. Help
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If the ALT level is above the normal range, I would certainly keep a close eye on this. It can hide something nasty.
I don't think that "I exercise regularly playing Squash, Tennis and the occasionally running" has anything to do worsening it.
Do you have in your relatives people with liver-related concerns?1 -
Welcome
You've done amazing. What do you need help with? 2 -
Saifnasirpk wrote: »Over all I'm pretty fit. I exercise regularly playing Squash, Tennis and the occasionally running but I have some fat on my liver which doctors think is causing a raised ALT. I don't drink but I eat all sorts of junk food. So I've started dieting no junks. I've already lost 6kgs, gone from 86 to 80. I want to lose 5 more. My height is 6'3. Help
Does the doctor have any suggestions to help your liver?1 -
No not that I know of. I think my grandfather had a fatty liver. Doctors are just telling me to lose the fat.If the ALT level is above the normal range, I would certainly keep a close eye on this. It can hide something nasty.
I don't think that "I exercise regularly playing Squash, Tennis and the occasionally running" has anything to do worsening it.
Do you have in your relatives people with liver-related concerns?0 -
Saifnasirpk wrote: »Over all I'm pretty fit. I exercise regularly playing Squash, Tennis and the occasionally running but I have some fat on my liver which doctors think is causing a raised ALT. I don't drink but I eat all sorts of junk food. So I've started dieting no junks. I've already lost 6kgs, gone from 86 to 80. I want to lose 5 more. My height is 6'3. Help
Does the doctor have any suggestions to help your liver?
Yes, stop all oily food. Go on a strict diet. Basically to lose the fat on my liver.3 -
kommodevaran wrote: »Welcome You've done amazing. What do you need help with?
Anything that's good at reducing fat on my liver specifically. If I keep reducing my weight I'll be bones0 -
Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.0
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Increase your consumption of fruits vegetables and eat lean meats. Switch from fried foods to things that are grilled or baked. Think of your liver as a filter and you naturally want to keep it clean . Increase your water consumption too as it helps clean the filter.4
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goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.3 -
2020pinktogo wrote: »Increase your consumption of fruits vegetables and eat lean meats. Switch from fried foods to things that are grilled or baked. Think of your liver as a filter and you naturally want to keep it clean . Increase your water consumption too as it helps clean the filter.
Extremely helpful. Thank you so much.1 -
Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable10 -
Have they checked other labs? You mention your grandfather, so have you been checked for hemochromatosis? There are many causes of elevated liver functions some being more benign than others.0
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I just have a few questions. Do you drink? If you do, cut back. Do you have diabetes? If you do, that can cause a fatty liver. What were your triglyceride levels? If they are high that can cause a fatty liver as well. Best Wishes and good luck!3
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Saifnasirpk wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »Welcome You've done amazing. What do you need help with?
Anything that's good at reducing fat on my liver specifically. If I keep reducing my weight I'll be bones
Do you lift weights? If not, you should consider starting.
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TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.3 -
psychod787 wrote: »I just have a few questions. Do you drink? If you do, cut back. Do you have diabetes? If you do, that can cause a fatty liver. What were your triglyceride levels? If they are high that can cause a fatty liver as well. Best Wishes and good luck!
No, never touched Alcohol, no diabetes, haven't checked the triglyceride level recently. I'll do so1 -
Have they checked other labs? You mention your grandfather, so have you been checked for hemochromatosis? There are many causes of elevated liver functions some being more benign than others.
Yes multiple labs. Not hemochromatosis. Only thing off is fatty liver. Everything else normal0 -
Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Do you still feel that way for the next 5kgs? Does your Dr agree with that approach. Obviously I'm no doctor but I would have been tempted to lose the first bit quickly as you did, after that though I would definitely be concentrating on doing it in a healthy and sustainable fashion.
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Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?8 -
The ketogenic diet is supposed to be good for getting rid of a fatty liver.12
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curlyshirl wrote: »The ketogenic diet is supposed to be good for getting rid of a fatty liver.curlyshirl wrote: »The ketogenic diet is supposed to be good for getting rid of a fatty liver.
Actually, most of the research I read, was it could make it worse over the long haul. Losing body fat will help get rid of a fatty liver, but all your blood is filtered through the liver, nothing wrong with fat BTW, I am not going to slam it. That being said, a high fat die can cause a fatty liver in research, but I am in the belief that its a high fat, high carb, low protein diet with excess calories that does it.9 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?
Actually mine did! When I started losing weight, my doctor, who was fairly young and into fitness, told a 400lb man to eat 1600 cals a day and exercise heavily! Horrid advice BTW! I also talked to another MD, not mine this time, I left his practice, that said she hands out 1600 cal a day diets to the obese all the time! WOW!1 -
psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?
Actually mine did! When I started losing weight, my doctor, who was fairly young and into fitness, told a 400lb man to eat 1600 cals a day and exercise heavily! Horrid advice BTW! I also talked to another MD, not mine this time, I left his practice, that said she hands out 1600 cal a day diets to the obese all the time! WOW!
OP isn't 200lbs over weight so that is not a useful comparison.6 -
TavistockToad wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?
Actually mine did! When I started losing weight, my doctor, who was fairly young and into fitness, told a 400lb man to eat 1600 cals a day and exercise heavily! Horrid advice BTW! I also talked to another MD, not mine this time, I left his practice, that said she hands out 1600 cal a day diets to the obese all the time! WOW!
OP isn't 200lbs over weight so that is not a useful comparison.
Yes, I know, I was just showing that many MD's have no clue on good weight loss and sometimes give horrid advice.5 -
psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?
Actually mine did! When I started losing weight, my doctor, who was fairly young and into fitness, told a 400lb man to eat 1600 cals a day and exercise heavily! Horrid advice BTW! I also talked to another MD, not mine this time, I left his practice, that said she hands out 1600 cal a day diets to the obese all the time! WOW!
OP isn't 200lbs over weight so that is not a useful comparison.
Yes, I know, I was just showing that many MD's have no clue on good weight loss and sometimes give horrid advice.
Getting someone to drop weight quickly when they're 200lbs overweight seems like good advice. 1600 cals isn't loads but a 400lb person can sustain that deficit for a while. Plus, if they aren't weighing accurately they're probably eating more than that anyway.3 -
How high is it? Usually they look for any underlying medical issue. If you’re already at a healthy weight you can’t just decide yo lose fat from your liver. I’ve also been told that weight loss can contribute to fatty liver. Makes no Sense but that’s what they say.7
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TavistockToad wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?
Actually mine did! When I started losing weight, my doctor, who was fairly young and into fitness, told a 400lb man to eat 1600 cals a day and exercise heavily! Horrid advice BTW! I also talked to another MD, not mine this time, I left his practice, that said she hands out 1600 cal a day diets to the obese all the time! WOW!
OP isn't 200lbs over weight so that is not a useful comparison.
Yes, I know, I was just showing that many MD's have no clue on good weight loss and sometimes give horrid advice.
Getting someone to drop weight quickly when they're 200lbs overweight seems like good advice. 1600 cals isn't loads but a 400lb person can sustain that deficit for a while. Plus, if they aren't weighing accurately they're probably eating more than that anyway.
Losing weight is a great idea, but at what level and rate is the question. Sure, they can maintain a deficit for a while when grossly obese, but what is the compliance rate? I also bring into account, that many MD's do not even go into quality of nutrients. When someone drops weight that quickly, we know that they lose lean mass like crazy! While losing the weight is all good and well, the loss of lean mass is hard to get back. I will even go into the biggest loser studies done by Kevin Hall in 2016. Of the 14 of 16 contestants that came in for testing, 12 of the 14 had regain most if not all their weight. Yes, I know that they were on TV, and that can be different than real life, but their diets were very similar. Most ate an average of 1200-1400 cals a day to lose weight and went through extensive exercise programs. Maybe if MD's took the time to understand that a slower approach can work just as well, if not better IMHO, people would have the time to learn how to weight, measure, and log accurately.4 -
psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Saifnasirpk wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.
I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.
That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable
Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.
Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?
Actually mine did! When I started losing weight, my doctor, who was fairly young and into fitness, told a 400lb man to eat 1600 cals a day and exercise heavily! Horrid advice BTW! I also talked to another MD, not mine this time, I left his practice, that said she hands out 1600 cal a day diets to the obese all the time! WOW!
OP isn't 200lbs over weight so that is not a useful comparison.
Yes, I know, I was just showing that many MD's have no clue on good weight loss and sometimes give horrid advice.
Getting someone to drop weight quickly when they're 200lbs overweight seems like good advice. 1600 cals isn't loads but a 400lb person can sustain that deficit for a while. Plus, if they aren't weighing accurately they're probably eating more than that anyway.
Losing weight is a great idea, but at what level and rate is the question. Sure, they can maintain a deficit for a while when grossly obese, but what is the compliance rate? I also bring into account, that many MD's do not even go into quality of nutrients. When someone drops weight that quickly, we know that they lose lean mass like crazy! While losing the weight is all good and well, the loss of lean mass is hard to get back. I will even go into the biggest loser studies done by Kevin Hall in 2016. Of the 14 of 16 contestants that came in for testing, 12 of the 14 had regain most if not all their weight. Yes, I know that they were on TV, and that can be different than real life, but their diets were very similar. Most ate an average of 1200-1400 cals a day to lose weight and went through extensive exercise programs. Maybe if MD's took the time to understand that a slower approach can work just as well, if not better IMHO, people would have the time to learn how to weight, measure, and log accurately.
You're arguing with yourself at this point... You said you know of a person who was told to eat 1600, I said that's fine, you're now talking about biggest loser contestants eating 1200 cals...2 -
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I'm not huge fan of herbal remedies, but there's evidence that milk thistle is effective in healing and detoxifying the liver.8
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