So confused. How does your body actually lose fat?
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The only thing I will add to this about macro preference by the body. There was a study done in rats that showed after significant weight loss, their body's tended to store dietary fat easier and an increase in carb oxitazation. Like I have stated before, the study was rats and not humans. It might not translate to real world.0
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fromnebraska wrote: »So why are people bothering with this crazy keto thing if they can lose weight by eating a large variety of foods?
Good question for those who believe in keto.1 -
dangernene wrote: »It does the same thing but not as quickly. Your body can handle a certain amount of carbohydrate - it's after that that it begins to be stored as glycogen, which needs to be burned off first before the fat gets used. So in a regular "diet" you'd ideally have the appropriate amount of carbs - or I guess if you go a little over you don't have that much to burn off first (the rest is used to fuel your body). In keto you don't have those carbs/glycogen to burn off so you just torch the fat straight away. Fat is less appropriate than carbs in terms of fuelling your body so I'm not sure of the long term health risks with keto (if any known), but I imagine someone here will be able to explain that a bit better.
With the small amount of research I did on just the bulletproof keto coffee, it was found that a lot of people's cholesterol levels went way high after consuming it regularly. The article suggested that anyone thinking of doing keto get their cholesterol checked frequently. I will say that I tried the bullet proof coffee for a week. I didn't like how it sat with me. I didn't feel great and even felt deprived. I'm sure it was the lack of nutrients since I was consuming such a high fat drink and barely any actual food (as it's usually had in place of a meal at breakfast).1 -
Apologies for my inaccurate post above and thanks to those who corrected me! Every day's a school day (and that will teach me not to check my understanding before I go posting all over these things!)20
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Your body is a chemical engine, it breaks down chemical bonds in hydrocarbon molecules and captures some of that energy to do work while the rest is expended in waste heat.
When you literally burn (as in with fire) a pile of sugar what is happening is that the sugar molecule (C6H12O6) is interacting with oxygen (O2) and in the increased temperature this reaction created CO2 (which is a gas) and H20 (water, which in a fire evaporates and escapes as steam) and a lot of released heat. If you burn fat (which is just a hydrated carbon chain) the overall reaction and biproducts are essentially the same. You use oxygen to oxidize the bonds and release water and carbon dioxide and energy.
Your body carries out the exact same oxidative reaction but rather than using extreme temperature it uses enzymes to catalyze the reaction and couple it in such a way that less energy is wasted as heat and some is captured in a "currency" molecule ATP which can be coupled to other reactions to carry out the metabolic and biochemical functions of life. The waste products of this breakdown remain the same however, you take in oxygen and you release water and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide you breath out and the water is either used to help keep you hydrated or is excreted. There is a bit of waste heat as well which your body uses to maintain your body temp. In fact even in the case of zero activity your body is constantly utilizing some of its stored hydrocarbon fuel in order to generate heat to maintain your body temperature at 37 degrees C. Why 37 degrees? Because that is the optimal operational temperature for enzymes that catalyze those biochemical metabolic reactions.
So where does the weight go? Well your body is constantly exchanging matter with its enviornment through intake of food and water, excretion (urine, feces) as well as through breathing. Water intake and excretion is homeostatic, meaning you have to maintain a certain amount of water in your body so water intake might temporarily increase your weight but you will excrete it later to come back into balance so it can be ignored. Feces are just what is left from digestion and were never really "inside" you, they are just what is left in the tube that passes from your mouth to your *kitten* so that can be ignored as well. All that is left therefore is breath. You breath in oxygen, which is O2 and you breath our carbon dioxide, which is C02. If the carbon you are exhaling is more than the amount you are taking in from your hydrocarbon fuel sources then you will lose weight, if it is equal you will maintain and if it is higher then you will gain weight. The amount of carbon dioxide you expel is proportional to the level of metabolic activity your body is under which is influenced by your activity level. Where does the weight go when you lose weight? You breath it out through that extra carbon atom. Where does the weight go when you gain weight? The excess is converted to fat (a hydrocarbon) and stored in triglyceride storage molecules. Doesn't matter if your intake is "keto" or not.
I gave a much more in depth version of this here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10616800/biochemistry-answers-for-common-weight-loss-questions-what-are-macros-fats#latest38 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Your body is a chemical engine, it breaks down chemical bonds in hydrocarbon molecules and captures some of that energy to do work while the rest is expended in waste heat.
When you literally burn (as in with fire) a pile of sugar what is happening is that the sugar molecule (C6H12O6) is interacting with oxygen (O2) and in the increased temperature this reaction created CO2 (which is a gas) and H20 (water, which in a fire evaporates and escapes as steam) and a lot of released heat. If you burn fat (which is just a hydrated carbon chain) the overall reaction and biproducts are essentially the same. You use oxygen to oxidize the bonds and release water and carbon dioxide and energy.
Your body carries out the exact same oxidative reaction but rather than using extreme temperature it uses enzymes to catalyze the reaction and couple it in such a way that less energy is wasted as heat and some is captured in a "currency" molecule which can be coupled to other reactions to carry out the metabolic and biochemical functions of life. The waste products of this breakdown remain the same however, you take in oxygen and you release water and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide you breath out and the water is either used to help keep you hydrated or is excreted. There is a bit of waste heat as well which your body uses to maintain your body temp. In fact even in the case of zero activity your body is constantly utilizing some of its stored hydrocarbon fuel in order to generate heat to maintain your body temperature.
I gave a much more in depth version of this here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10616800/biochemistry-answers-for-common-weight-loss-questions-what-are-macros-fats#latest
Why on Earth did this get wooed? It's the least woo-y answer I've ever seen on these forums.18 -
dangernene wrote: »Apologies for my inaccurate post above and thanks to those who corrected me! Every day's a school day (and that will teach me not to check my understanding before I go posting all over these things!)
Thanks for taking it in with a good spirit!
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Your body is a chemical engine, it breaks down chemical bonds in hydrocarbon molecules and captures some of that energy to do work while the rest is expended in waste heat.
When you literally burn (as in with fire) a pile of sugar what is happening is that the sugar molecule (C6H12O6) is interacting with oxygen (O2) and in the increased temperature this reaction created CO2 (which is a gas) and H20 (water, which in a fire evaporates and escapes as steam) and a lot of released heat. If you burn fat (which is just a hydrated carbon chain) the overall reaction and biproducts are essentially the same. You use oxygen to oxidize the bonds and release water and carbon dioxide and energy.
Your body carries out the exact same oxidative reaction but rather than using extreme temperature it uses enzymes to catalyze the reaction and couple it in such a way that less energy is wasted as heat and some is captured in a "currency" molecule ATP which can be coupled to other reactions to carry out the metabolic and biochemical functions of life. The waste products of this breakdown remain the same however, you take in oxygen and you release water and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide you breath out and the water is either used to help keep you hydrated or is excreted. There is a bit of waste heat as well which your body uses to maintain your body temp. In fact even in the case of zero activity your body is constantly utilizing some of its stored hydrocarbon fuel in order to generate heat to maintain your body temperature.
So where does the weight go? Well your body is constantly exchanging matter with its enviornment through intake of food and water, excretion (urine, feces) as well as through breathing. Water intake and excretion is homeostatic, meaning you have to maintain a certain amount of water in your body so water intake might temporarily increase your weight but you will excrete it later to come back into balance so it can be ignored. Feces are just what is left from digestion and were never really "inside" you, they are just what is left in the tube that passes from your mouth to your *kitten* so that can be ignored as well. All that is left therefore is breath. You breath in oxygen, which is O2 and you breath our carbon dioxide, which is C02. If the carbon you are exhaling is more than the amount you are taking in from your hydrocarbon fuel sources then you will lose weight, if it is equal you will maintain and if it is higher then you will gain weight. The amount of carbon dioxide you expel is proportional to the level of metabolic activity your body is under which is influenced by your activity level. Where does the weight go when you lose weight? You breath it out through that extra carbon atom. Doesn't matter if your intake is "keto" or not.
I gave a much more in depth version of this here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10616800/biochemistry-answers-for-common-weight-loss-questions-what-are-macros-fats#latest
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Your body is a chemical engine, it breaks down chemical bonds in hydrocarbon molecules and captures some of that energy to do work while the rest is expended in waste heat.
When you literally burn (as in with fire) a pile of sugar what is happening is that the sugar molecule (C6H12O6) is interacting with oxygen (O2) and in the increased temperature this reaction created CO2 (which is a gas) and H20 (water, which in a fire evaporates and escapes as steam) and a lot of released heat. If you burn fat (which is just a hydrated carbon chain) the overall reaction and biproducts are essentially the same. You use oxygen to oxidize the bonds and release water and carbon dioxide and energy.
Your body carries out the exact same oxidative reaction but rather than using extreme temperature it uses enzymes to catalyze the reaction and couple it in such a way that less energy is wasted as heat and some is captured in a "currency" molecule ATP which can be coupled to other reactions to carry out the metabolic and biochemical functions of life. The waste products of this breakdown remain the same however, you take in oxygen and you release water and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide you breath out and the water is either used to help keep you hydrated or is excreted. There is a bit of waste heat as well which your body uses to maintain your body temp. In fact even in the case of zero activity your body is constantly utilizing some of its stored hydrocarbon fuel in order to generate heat to maintain your body temperature.
So where does the weight go? Well your body is constantly exchanging matter with its enviornment through intake of food and water, excretion (urine, feces) as well as through breathing. Water intake and excretion is homeostatic, meaning you have to maintain a certain amount of water in your body so water intake might temporarily increase your weight but you will excrete it later to come back into balance so it can be ignored. Feces are just what is left from digestion and were never really "inside" you, they are just what is left in the tube that passes from your mouth to your *kitten* so that can be ignored as well. All that is left therefore is breath. You breath in oxygen, which is O2 and you breath our carbon dioxide, which is C02. If the carbon you are exhaling is more than the amount you are taking in from your hydrocarbon fuel sources then you will lose weight, if it is equal you will maintain and if it is higher then you will gain weight. The amount of carbon dioxide you expel is proportional to the level of metabolic activity your body is under which is influenced by your activity level. Where does the weight go when you lose weight? You breath it out through that extra carbon atom. Doesn't matter if your intake is "keto" or not.
I gave a much more in depth version of this here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10616800/biochemistry-answers-for-common-weight-loss-questions-what-are-macros-fats#latest
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You are becoming my hero!3 -
I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.51 -
catherineg3 wrote: »as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet ...
How do you explain how so many people here have had success losing body fat while eating at a calorie deficit and including moderate or even high levels of carbohydrates in their diet?
People have pointed this out to you before, but not doing keto doesn't automatically translate into a high carbohydrate diet. That you always jump to "high carb" as the only alternative to keto isn't a legitimate way to frame the issue. Not doing keto means . . . not doing keto. Someone who makes that choice can be eating high carbohydrate, sure. But they could also just do moderate carb or even low carb.
Frustrated with misinformation? Look within before you start calling people out. Carbs are the source of obesity and diabetes? Not excess calories? We've been eating carbohydrates for as long as we've been a species. Our closest animal relatives all eat carbohydrates. Obesity and diabetes are relatively modern issues as serious health concerns for our species. Your logic doesn't hold up.29 -
catherineg3 wrote: »I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.
If your tired of misinformation than stop posting it. Your whole post is just plain not true and pretty much ignores dietary physiology. You don't understand the role of insulin and it's function to bring nutrition to the cellular level. Fat doesn't get stored in a calorie deficit only in a surplus. I could go on and on. About the only thing in your post that is accurate is the last sentence.
Seriously, stop accusing people of being wrong in threads and then posting a big steaming pile of misinformation.
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catherineg3 wrote: »I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.
No....just no, that is not how that works. Insulin just regulates your blood glucose concentration. Sure, if your blood glucose concentration is too high your body will produce insulin which will signal cells to uptake glucose from your blood and either utilize it or, if energy is not required, store it as glycogen (not fat). It will also inhibit metabolic pathways for the breakdown of glycogen. But, and this is the critical point, if you are in caloric deficit then your body WILL be requiring energy and that glucose will either just get utilized in that moment or either glycogen or fat stores will be tapped for energy production.
As blood glucose is kept in a homeostatic balance that of course means insulin has a counterpart which is glucagon. In cases where blood sugar is low glucagon will be produced which raises blood glucose levels by stimulating the breakdown of glycogen into glucose or the conversion of fat into sugars through various metabolic pathways.
Insulin doesn't just make you immune to thermodynamics and prevent the breakdown of fats and your metabolism cannot just be "turned down" like that, it doesn't work that way. If you are running a marathon and stop to down a bunch of donuts then sure your blood sugar will spike, your pancreas will produce insulin which will shut down any mobilization of glucose from glycogen stored and instruct cells to uptake glucose from the blood until levels return to their homeostatic levels but that glucose is just going to get utilized for metabolic energy production to fuel muscles and you are still going to have to mobilize fat stores to make up for any additional caloric deficit. As soon as that additional glucose is taken up and utilized and blood sugar levels drop to nominal in your blood insulin will stop being produced. If your level drops below nominal glucogon will get produced and glycogen stores will get mobilized to bring it back up.
Insulin isn't some boogieman, it is just one hormone within your bodies homeostatic regulatory system that helps keep solutes at their nominal levels.27 -
catherineg3 wrote: »I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about...
And once again...why if it's not keto is it a default to high carb/low fat/low calorie. Have you ever heard of a balanced diet?
Do you not realize that there are many nutritious sources of carbohydrates and that not all carbohydrates are sugar and highly refined?
The biggest cause of diabetes isn't carbs...it's being overweight and obese.
Your notion that you're just going to be hungry if you're not doing keto is ridiculous. I've never been and never will do keto...I'm not hungry at all...I eat around 2500-2700 calories to lose weight. I've lost 40 Lbs really easily...I was never hungry and I've maintained going on 5 years.
You seriously have no clue what the *kitten* you're talking about...Lol...you don't even understand the roll insulin actually plays in your body...spoiler alert, it's pretty figgin' important.20 -
catherineg3 wrote: »I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.
Not sure where you are getting your misinformation .... plenty of people lose fat on high carbs, plenty of people get lean on high carbs. What about cultures where carbs make up the majority of intake? What about vegans and vegetarians? It all comes down to being in a deficit.
I personally eat a high amount of carbs in a deficit, I feel great, I don't get hungry, fats for me aren't filling (volume eater here), I don't fast, I lose weight just fine.
So how did I burn fat eating so many carbs? How did I get really lean and lower my bodyfat so efficiently? Magic? No.. I ate in a deficit, and ate enough protein and lifted to preserve muscle.
By the way, why is insulin always pegged as evil, it is my best friend right now since it is allowing me to build muscle (in a surplus).
If low carb/keto works for you, that is fantastic. But it is not the only way to lose weight or be successful. And for many people low carb or keto is not sustainable or optimal for their goals.16 -
catherineg3 wrote: »I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.
Not sure where you are getting your misinformation .... plenty of people lose fat on high carbs, plenty of people get lean on high carbs. What about cultures where carbs make up the majority of intake? What about vegans and vegetarians? It all comes down to being in a deficit.
I personally eat a high amount of carbs in a deficit, I feel great, I don't get hungry, fats for me aren't filling (volume eater here), I don't fast, I lose weight just fine.
So how did I burn fat eating so many carbs? How did I get really lean and lower my bodyfat so efficiently? Magic? No.. I ate in a deficit, and ate enough protein and lifted to preserve muscle.
By the way, why is insulin always pegged as evil, it is my best friend right now since it is allowing me to build muscle (in a surplus).
If low carb/keto works for you, that is fantastic. But it is not the only way to lose weight or be successful. And for many people low carb or keto is not sustainable or optimal for their goals.
But you were ravenously starving and shaking because your blood sugar crashed and huddled in a corner of despair right? You can admit it...9 -
catherineg3 wrote: »I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the misinformation that people have and continue to propagate. basically, carbs are 100% the cause of obesity and diabetes. Eat carbs, blood sugar goes up, release insulin (or inject for some diabetics), INSULIN signals the body to store glucose in the blood AS FAT. as long as insulin is up, even if you are eating at a moderate calorie deficit, you will not burn body fat for fuel, instead, you will feel very hungry and your metabolism will slow down to match the reduced calorie intake.
So, to lose fat on high carb, low calorie diet, you have to be low enough calories in that your body needs food and has already burned through ALL that you have consumed and used all easy glycogen stores, so after at least 8-12 hours of not eating anything, finally blood sugar and insulin levels drop, and then (probably about 5 or 6 am by this time...) your body will convert a small amount of stored fat to energy. then you wake up, have breakfast and go back to high insulin and burning calories consumed and body still trying to store fat instead of burn it. This is a hard slow road, but it will eventually reduce weight.
To lose weight on a low carb diet, your body is never given enough carbs to fuel base metabolic needs, so it learns to burn fat for fuel. once you're in ketosis and always burning fat, your body can so easily burn excess body fat for fuel, you won't feel as hungry. without so much insulin all the time, your body won't store fat, even if you eat higher calorie.
I also would suggest you look into intermittent fasting and time restricted eating. You don't have to go crazy with the fasting for days on end, which is hard, but consider trying at least *12 hours each day no food, water only* and if you are on a strict low calorie, that probably means you have to give up evening snacks to stay under your limit, so this is pretty easy. If you can push that to about 16 hours each day no food, even better.
whatever diet you choose, be prepared to maintain it long term to maintain your goal weight.
Not sure where you are getting your misinformation .... plenty of people lose fat on high carbs, plenty of people get lean on high carbs. What about cultures where carbs make up the majority of intake? What about vegans and vegetarians? It all comes down to being in a deficit.
I personally eat a high amount of carbs in a deficit, I feel great, I don't get hungry, fats for me aren't filling (volume eater here), I don't fast, I lose weight just fine.
So how did I burn fat eating so many carbs? How did I get really lean and lower my bodyfat so efficiently? Magic? No.. I ate in a deficit, and ate enough protein and lifted to preserve muscle.
By the way, why is insulin always pegged as evil, it is my best friend right now since it is allowing me to build muscle (in a surplus).
If low carb/keto works for you, that is fantastic. But it is not the only way to lose weight or be successful. And for many people low carb or keto is not sustainable or optimal for their goals.
I could guess where she gets her info. Quacks. She won't come back and respond or read any of the intelligent scientific posts though because y'all sxience is just plain wrong.7 -
I did a little research and she's a dr fung obesity code fan.9
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If insulin was just plain "bad" and stimulating insulin production through ingestion of carbohydrates is what causes obesity then how would you explain obese type 1 diabetics given that they literally are incapable of producing insulin at all?8
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »If insulin was just plain "bad" and stimulating insulin production through ingestion of carbohydrates is what causes obesity then how would you explain obese type 1 diabetics given that they literally are incapable of producing insulin at all?
I guess since it is so "bad" it's healthier for them to go without their insulin injection/pump.2
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