Anyone into gut health?
PinkKombucha
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I have been a binge eater for a while and I’ve finally been able to Kick the habit by starting to heal my gut, it’s only been a week and I feel better than I’ve felt in years! As an added bonus I’ve lost 10 pounds! Is anyone else into gut health? I’d love to meet like minded people! (:
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Through drinking kombucha? Do you eat yogurt or fermented vegetables too?1
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What have you changed?0
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Through drinking kombucha? Do you eat yogurt or fermented vegetables too?
Sometimes I drink kombucha, but I eat a lot of tempeh and sauerkraut. I have completely changed my way of eating. Also taking a pre biotic and a pro biotic.
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How do you know that your gut micro biomes have changed?2
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »How do you know that your gut micro biomes have changed?
I don’t! But my skin has cleared up, my cravings have decreased and I feel better. I can only assume that changes are occurring. Still have a long way to go of course. Do you know much about gut health?
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Not really, I’m not a gastroenterologist but I’ve had a few appointments with them. Up close and personal, so to speak. Lol4
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I don't really know a lot about it but I've been told that having a healthy gut is key to digestion. So eating foods with probiotics is really important for the gut.2
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By the way I love kombucha my mom makes it from scratch.. So good2
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igottagetthisrite wrote: »By the way I love kombucha my mom makes it from scratch.. So good
It’s so good!! I want to get a scoby and start making my own.0 -
Glad you have found some relief and that you are binge free at this time. I'm sure you are in the the 'initial' stages of any healthy diet endeavor but anything that works...hope it continues for you:) p.s. I've read that studies show improved gut bacteria after three days of changing ones diet4
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Glad you have found some relief and that you are binge free at this time. I'm sure you are in the the 'initial' stages of any healthy diet endeavor but anything that works...hope it continues for you:) p.s. I've read that studies show improved gut bacteria after three days of changing ones diet
Thank you so much! I was just so fed up with not being able to start any diet, I haven’t had a binge free day in a long time, so I’m really grateful and ecstatic.1 -
I make my own yogurt, sauerkraut, kombucha and beer.2
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I make my own yogurt, sauerkraut, kombucha and beer.
That’s incredible! I will attempt the sauerkraut and the kombucha!0 -
Super easy! Except for the beer, not so easy, but worth it.0
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I've recently been working on improving my gut health, some changes I made were eliminating dairy and wheat. I even went one step further and have been eating gluten free. I've felt a lot better since making these changes and believe they've helped me a lot not only in feeling better but I look better and less bloated.4
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I have a gut feeling there's a lot of woo to it. Reducing stress and anxiety, and thereby emotional eating, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, can do wonders for your weight, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, and losing excess weight, can do wonders with your stress and anxiety. Feeling that what you're doing, is right and important, is a powerful drive to keep doing it.15
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"Into"? Maybe. I ferment and use kefir, kombucha, and kimchi. I make my own greek yogurt. When I began trying to lose weight two years ago I was supplementing with a daily probiotic gummy.
What difference has it made? I'm not sure. I'm 55, sleep well, work well, look ok. Maybe that's the point of good health.
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kommodevaran wrote: »I have a gut feeling there's a lot of woo to it. Reducing stress and anxiety, and thereby emotional eating, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, can do wonders for your weight, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, and losing excess weight, can do wonders with your stress and anxiety. Feeling that what you're doing, is right and important, is a powerful drive to keep doing it.
I’ve done some microbiome research and am inclined to agree. Although there is compelling evidence that the microbiome does interact a lot with host health, the evidence for probiotics working in a sustained way is much less clear, plus the developmental time point seems like it could be important as well. I think there might be some truth in the claims that certain microbial functions are beneficial, but it’ll be much less simple than people think. One thing that seems beneficial for many people is to eat more fibre - but then, that was a recommendation before all the microbiota hype...
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Read the book "Clean Gut". Eat the right combination of foods, take the list of probiotics, and find out what foods are toxic to your system.19
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Its good to read others are taking gut health seriously. For some of us its been the foundation to getting our health to a better place.5
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I’m an extreme sceptic, but I do take a couple of teaspoons of Inulin most days. I tried it after a BBC prog said it can be good for insomnia. The first day I tried it, I got 8 hours sleep for the first time in nearly 3 months.
I’ve been taking it since. Still get the odd night of bad sleep but nothing like before.
I’ve no idea if my gut health is better, but i feel fine and I’m regular. The only side-effect I’ve found is that I fart more, but thankfully my farts don’t smell. :-)2 -
mortuseon_ wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I have a gut feeling there's a lot of woo to it. Reducing stress and anxiety, and thereby emotional eating, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, can do wonders for your weight, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, and losing excess weight, can do wonders with your stress and anxiety. Feeling that what you're doing, is right and important, is a powerful drive to keep doing it.
I’ve done some microbiome research and am inclined to agree. Although there is compelling evidence that the microbiome does interact a lot with host health, the evidence for probiotics working in a sustained way is much less clear, plus the developmental time point seems like it could be important as well. I think there might be some truth in the claims that certain microbial functions are beneficial, but it’ll be much less simple than people think. One thing that seems beneficial for many people is to eat more fibre - but then, that was a recommendation before all the microbiota hype...
There is actually a lot of research going on in this topic and it is not as much "woo" as it once was. There have been new studies showing fecal transplants (to alter someone's microbiome) has led to cure of many diseases from cancers to arthritis. We really just do not know enough about it yet. Only 5% of the bacteria are culturable in our gut, and the ones that aren't culturable can be identified, but are not well studied since they cannot be cultured. We really do not know exactly how they impact the body. Bacteria can metabolize products, which can produce fats that we can absorb, they can release proteins, neurotransmitters, etc. It was just in the past decade that they actually began to use fecal transplants as treatments. I expect a lot more published research in the next few decades.
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kommodevaran wrote: »I have a gut feeling there's a lot of woo to it. Reducing stress and anxiety, and thereby emotional eating, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, can do wonders for your weight, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, and losing excess weight, can do wonders with your stress and anxiety. Feeling that what you're doing, is right and important, is a powerful drive to keep doing it.
I pretty much agree with this -- so much of this stuff is placebo, and what I've found is that when I'm not eating well for a while and, especially, eating in an unstructured, out of control way, I feel bad. Not just digestive stuff, but it affects my mood, sleep, so on. When I first get back on track, I tend to feel immediately great and so much happier and more energetic too. At one point I'd attribute whatever I changed (eating breakfast, cutting out added sugar, so on), but now I have more awareness that a lot of it is just feeling in control. That said, sometimes doing something (like thinking "I'm focusing on gut health" or "I'm eating low carb" or any number of things) can make it easier to do the things that need to be done -- like eating better, the right amount, on a schedule if you are someone that works for -- than just focusing on those things. Beats me why, but it's like how people could just cook more from scratch and eat vegetables, but some people need to say they are "doing W30" or something to make those steps that seem more like common sense.
Despite all this, I do think it makes sense to think some about the gut biome, but most of the difference seems to be based on overall diet, not adding probiotics, and so I'd think the absolute first step ought to be just trying to eat healthfully, a wide variety of plant foods, plenty of fiber.
Beyond that I think fermented foods and the like may well be good for us and also taste good, so I include those.
I've never done a real test (eating poorly and too much but including probiotics vs. eating poorly and too much without them; eating well but with no fermented foods vs. eating well but with them). My guess is there would be no noticeable difference, but there's no reason not to consume yogurt if you eat dairy, and sauerkraut and use vinegars (that come with the mother) in cooking, and drink kombucha and so on, if you enjoy those things. I've been planning to start making some of my own; have that Wild Fermentation book and think it would be fun.9 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »mortuseon_ wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I have a gut feeling there's a lot of woo to it. Reducing stress and anxiety, and thereby emotional eating, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, can do wonders for your weight, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, and losing excess weight, can do wonders with your stress and anxiety. Feeling that what you're doing, is right and important, is a powerful drive to keep doing it.
I’ve done some microbiome research and am inclined to agree. Although there is compelling evidence that the microbiome does interact a lot with host health, the evidence for probiotics working in a sustained way is much less clear, plus the developmental time point seems like it could be important as well. I think there might be some truth in the claims that certain microbial functions are beneficial, but it’ll be much less simple than people think. One thing that seems beneficial for many people is to eat more fibre - but then, that was a recommendation before all the microbiota hype...
There is actually a lot of research going on in this topic and it is not as much "woo" as it once was. There have been new studies showing fecal transplants (to alter someone's microbiome) has led to cure of many diseases from cancers to arthritis. We really just do not know enough about it yet. Only 5% of the bacteria are culturable in our gut, and the ones that aren't culturable can be identified, but are not well studied since they cannot be cultured. We really do not know exactly how they impact the body. Bacteria can metabolize products, which can produce fats that we can absorb, they can release proteins, neurotransmitters, etc. It was just in the past decade that they actually began to use fecal transplants as treatments. I expect a lot more published research in the next few decades.
I know they use fecal transplants to get rid of c dif and help (not cure) UC but never heard of it curing cancer and other diseases. Can you give me the link to those studies? Sounds interesting
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I'll try to make this not too gross, but when I ate a diet consisting mostly of traditional "junk" foods... highly processed, fast food, etc. My digestive system was a complete wreck. Yes I ate a few "healthy" things as well but the majority of my food was processed. I had been this way for so long I thought it was normal to deal with bloating, cramping, and quick access to the bathroom after every meal. In an attempt to lose some weight myself and be supportive of my gf at the time in her weight loss, we started "cleaning up" our diets. More whole foods, much much less junk. What I found went WAY beyond the weight loss part of things. My digestive system started functioning properly. It was amazing. I also had more sustained energy throughout the day. It was this impact that will forever keep me eating a diet of mostly whole foods with very little processed junk and no fast food.6 -
Thank you for all of the helpful responses! It’s great to see that other people out there take gut health seriously. (:0
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singingflutelady wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »mortuseon_ wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I have a gut feeling there's a lot of woo to it. Reducing stress and anxiety, and thereby emotional eating, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, can do wonders for your weight, and getting in some kind of meal schedule, and losing excess weight, can do wonders with your stress and anxiety. Feeling that what you're doing, is right and important, is a powerful drive to keep doing it.
I’ve done some microbiome research and am inclined to agree. Although there is compelling evidence that the microbiome does interact a lot with host health, the evidence for probiotics working in a sustained way is much less clear, plus the developmental time point seems like it could be important as well. I think there might be some truth in the claims that certain microbial functions are beneficial, but it’ll be much less simple than people think. One thing that seems beneficial for many people is to eat more fibre - but then, that was a recommendation before all the microbiota hype...
There is actually a lot of research going on in this topic and it is not as much "woo" as it once was. There have been new studies showing fecal transplants (to alter someone's microbiome) has led to cure of many diseases from cancers to arthritis. We really just do not know enough about it yet. Only 5% of the bacteria are culturable in our gut, and the ones that aren't culturable can be identified, but are not well studied since they cannot be cultured. We really do not know exactly how they impact the body. Bacteria can metabolize products, which can produce fats that we can absorb, they can release proteins, neurotransmitters, etc. It was just in the past decade that they actually began to use fecal transplants as treatments. I expect a lot more published research in the next few decades.
I know they use fecal transplants to get rid of c dif and help (not cure) UC but never heard of it curing cancer and other diseases. Can you give me the link to those studies? Sounds interesting
I have not personally read them, I was at a conference where they showed data from the studies and presentation. A few PhD professors in microbiology and cancer from Roswell Park gave talk a few weeks ago on the newest data. (I work in a cancer research lab). The data is in such infancy, but I can appreciate the potential since people thought they were crazy in the beginning for suggesting gut health had any effect on the body. I was skeptical as well.
I still won’t believe it until I see the studies published in big journals with numerous supporting results with studies from different labs. But it was their idea to start trials using fecal implantation and seeing its impact on colorectal cancer, and they claim to see significant results. I can email around and get the raw data and papers to post here for anyone interested.
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I'm on the fence. I believe gut health research is still young and from reading some of it, it looks like there is a lot of swinging in the dark going on. It's not well understood yet. I'm not ready or willing to make drastic changes based on the current findings. I just eat a variety of nutritious foods and trust my gut to take care of itself. I think it's interesting and the research is intriguing. With that said, I'm not convinced at all that I would be doing my gut a big favor by giving up grains, dairy, potatoes, legumes, zucchini, and tomatoes. A lot of my probiotic intake comes from fermented dairy and I don't think I'll function like a human being without tomatoes. The stress of it alone would unnecessarily wreck havoc in my gut.1
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