Does anyone else get irritated when people ask "what's your secret?"
theyrenothorsestheyretapirs
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I specifically mean when people who're maybe, a little larger, ask, and then refuse to listen, or accuse you of lying?
Someone in my class at Uni is big. I mean, huge. She must weigh a good 350lb, constantly drinks coke, I've never seen her drink water, she says it's boring, she eats a whole ton for lunch, often scoffing down three or four museli bars (they're "healthy"!) and it's obvious why she is the size she is.
A class mate and I use MFP and are losing/have lost a fair chunk of weight between us. Before joining here I have lost and kept off 70lb in the last four years. Our classmate has aksed us several times how we've done it, but doesn't like the answer and keeps pestering us about what our "secret" is and it's just ticking me off a lot lately.
Does anyone else get this? Do you get peeved off by it too?
Someone in my class at Uni is big. I mean, huge. She must weigh a good 350lb, constantly drinks coke, I've never seen her drink water, she says it's boring, she eats a whole ton for lunch, often scoffing down three or four museli bars (they're "healthy"!) and it's obvious why she is the size she is.
A class mate and I use MFP and are losing/have lost a fair chunk of weight between us. Before joining here I have lost and kept off 70lb in the last four years. Our classmate has aksed us several times how we've done it, but doesn't like the answer and keeps pestering us about what our "secret" is and it's just ticking me off a lot lately.
Does anyone else get this? Do you get peeved off by it too?
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Nope, just means you have noticeable results3
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Maid_of_Mischief1 wrote: »No... did you ever think that maybe that classmate of yours had other issues and that's why she's eating like she Is? I'm sure she doesn't want to be the size she is but just hasn't had the motivation or maybe resources to help her get there. It's definitly not a pet peeve of mine when someone asks me things like that, I'm more than happy to talk to them about my lifestyle that helps me be where I am.
If she has issues then whatever - we all do. I don't care especially about her eating habits, but she's making it my business by constantly nagging at me about what I'm eating, asking how I lost weight, etc. I don't tell her she's got a nerve wanting to go into healthcare and tell people how to look after themselves when she can't do so herself, so can't see how it's okay for her to harp on at me for my "secret" to not being obese. Honestly, working in the HCPC professions would, to me, be a huge incentive to get on top of my weight if I hadn't already. And I know that's not the case for alot of people - we have some of the fattest nurses in the EU - but to me, it's the right thing to do. I wouldn't want to use a mechanic with a car that failed it's MOT.
I'm happy to talk about it too, but not when someone so hates my answer that they accuse me of lying.
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You know people like you were the reason I didn't like to eat in public. You know absolutely nothing about this girl and have no right to judge the tiny glimpse into her life that you see. Just be consistent with how you answer her and she'll get it eventually. In the meantime, keep your eyes on your plate and off of hers.10
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You know people like you were the reason I didn't like to eat in public. You know absolutely nothing about this girl and have no right to judge the tiny glimpse into her life that you see. Just be consistent with how you answer her and she'll get it eventually. In the meantime, keep your eyes on your plate and off of hers.
I've never once commented on her food, and I've worked retail for a number of years so I'm really good at keeping my thoughts off my face. If you had a hard time eating in public because of your weight, that says more about your weight and how you felt about it than anything else.4 -
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theyrenothorsestheyretapirs wrote: »You know people like you were the reason I didn't like to eat in public. You know absolutely nothing about this girl and have no right to judge the tiny glimpse into her life that you see. Just be consistent with how you answer her and she'll get it eventually. In the meantime, keep your eyes on your plate and off of hers.
I've never once commented on her food, and I've worked retail for a number of years so I'm really good at keeping my thoughts off my face. If you had a hard time eating in public because of your weight, that says more about your weight and how you felt about it than anything else.
"she eats a whole ton for lunch, often scoffing down three or four museli bars (they're "healthy"!) and it's obvious why she is the size she is."
No, it's because I knew people like you were watching what I was doing.13 -
When asked, I don't mind sharing info that could be helpful. But some people don't want to hear the hard truth. They want it to be some complicated, mysterious, impossible process so they have an excuse to give up or not even try. I had one person ask me "my secret" 3 different times. I got tired of repeating myself to someone who wasn't listening anyway. The last time she asked me I said, "I guess I'm just lucky." She seemed content with that answer, as though her suspicions had finally been confirmed, and hasn't asked since. LOL. Her loss, I guess. Sad though, too...7
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craygslyst1 wrote: »Yes I find it annoying. It’s no secret for most. Burn more calories. Eat less
Everyone wants the magic bullet.
The magic bullet gun fires blanks
Just stating the newb facts on losing weight doesn't help everybody. Ones physical appearance is usually a direct reflection of one's mental state. The physiology of losing weight is simple.....but it takes a mental adjustment to get the body doing what's supposed to be done.
Burn more eat less explanation is lazier than the person it's directed at.15 -
Having spent most of my life as obese, I suspect this person might be self medicating through eating, and that her question actually might have a slight cry for help or compassion behind it. She may know the facts, but she is stuck in a lifetime of habitual behaviors that reveals that food is how she responds to life. Stress? eat. Loneliness? Eat. Looking in a mirror and seeing the pain of obesity in her own eyes? Eat away the pain. More sugar, more fats! It temporarily comforts me till I wake up tomorrow and have to wear my stretch pants or sweats and face The cruelties of tomorrow.8
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craygslyst1 wrote: »craygslyst1 wrote: »Yes I find it annoying. It’s no secret for most. Burn more calories. Eat less
Everyone wants the magic bullet.
The magic bullet gun fires blanks
Just stating the newb facts on losing weight doesn't help everybody. Ones physical appearance is usually a direct reflection of one's mental state. The physiology of losing weight is simple.....but it takes a mental adjustment to get the body doing what's supposed to be done.
Burn more eat less explanation is lazier than the person it's directed at.
No. It’s not. Don’t call me lazy. REALLY don’t appreciate that. It’s quite disrespectful. I’ve been nothing but kind and nice and positive on these boards.
Please don’t respond with ‘I wasn’t calling you lazy’. Yes. You were.
When I start to explain what burn more, eat less means, they lose interest.
I’m more than happy to talk with someone who really wants to make the effort. Most want to know what diet pill, diet fad, or other du jour thing was followed.
I train people for a living. I have heard every excuse and explanation why they can't do it or why it's different for them than it is for someone else who has succeeded in losing weight. I listen no matter how many times I've heard it. Because even though their reasoning is usually flawed, it's real to them and until that is understood, they will not succeed.
And you got the wrong guy if you think I would retract my lazy statement. I am not the least bit concerned with you being offended by my opinion. It wasn't my intent, but then again I'm sure you wouldn't apologize for your burn more eat less statement even if it offended someone.16 -
craygslyst1 wrote: »I work daily with trainers.
I don’t care one iota what you would or would not retract.
I try very hard every day to not be offensive. I respect others feelings. Please don’t assume to know what I would or wouldn’t apologize for. You don’t know me.
We don’t need to carry this on.
Truce? I’m really bad at holding a grudge. (I can’t do it).
I didn't know there was anything to have a grudge about. My opinion based on my experience was different than yours and I voiced how I felt about it.
Yes, i would definitely like to not cause you feelings that could cause a grudge. So yes, truce.5 -
It's kind of relevant to the topic so this is a blog I wrote addressing my opinion on over simplistic approaches to weight issues.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/bojack37 -
No one has ever asked me. If they did I would just say I track my calorie intake with a food diary app. No secret. Nothing to get annoyed about.
I don't really talk about my weight or weight loss outside of the forums here.
I eat pretty much the same foods as everyone else I know.
I also don't have a problem changing the subject or telling someone I am not going to discuss a topic if they are bothering me.0 -
It's kind of relevant to the topic so this is a blog I wrote addressing my opinion on over simplistic approaches to weight issues.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/bojack3
Very well written and spot on! Many people throw phrases around like 'mind over matter' but never fully comprehend that we are, in fact, psychosomatic beings.
I truly enjoyed this!
Ps. I have a military father... could be partly why this resonated with me so much... as far as discipline goes.5 -
Yes. It gets very old!
When someone says "What's your secret?" I just say counting calories/My Fitness Pal and leave it at that. Most people immediately lose interest because for whatever reason they want me to give them a recipe for putting 5 superfoods, some essential oils, and the blood of a virgin in a Vitamix to lose weight instantly. I honestly just roll my eyes at this point because it gets old.
I like the other poster's answer "I guess I'm just lucky" because sometimes I wanna say that.
I've also been annoyed by people who barely know me, and former coworkers, just assuming I had weight loss surgery. Not to say that's wrong or bad. But I did not have it, so I am mildly offended by the assumption. My former boss told the gossipy crowd that I didn't have WLS but I work out all of the time & ride my bike everywhere. Also untrue. She'd seen me on hiking trails and riding my bike ONCE (probably out of the ten times a year I ride). People decide things and go with it. Just gotta laugh but yes it's annoying!4 -
Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »It's kind of relevant to the topic so this is a blog I wrote addressing my opinion on over simplistic approaches to weight issues.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/bojack3
Very well written and spot on! Many people throw phrases around like 'mind over matter' but never fully comprehend that we are, in fact, psychosomatic beings.
I truly enjoyed this!
Ps. I have a military father... could be partly why this resonated with me so much... as far as discipline goes.
It's mind over matter though, well, mind over hunger actually.
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The world is a better place when we take a breath and approach issues with compassion and inquiry.4
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lavinia_whateley_goals wrote: »this post vintage mfp, like a fine wine combing fat shaming, a touch of humble bragging and the faint note of flame baiting
pairs well with dry humor
I don't know vintage mfp...but I adore you and your mind...perfect description of 'today mfp' as well from what I gather!!
Random...the 'old days' are always referenced with so much adoration and nostalgia...I feel like I missed something epic2 -
I get the OP , and I know it from both sides years ago I lost weight logging , then stopped slowly the weight crept back plus more . And for years I kept thinking I was eating Healthy , loads of vegetables and healthy grains, lean meats , but steadily gaining . blaming it on metabolism and my age . then I came here and got on board with tracking and working out . I have lost 44 lbs . now many folks see the change and ask , Truthful answer is I stopped over eating ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Surprise no one wants to hear it they all want some quick fix that does not involve taking responsibility for what they choose to put in their mouth . I am tired of being quizzed on what I ieat then hearing oh I hate vegetables I could not eat that restrictive . ha I eat 1400 cal most days and usually feel full but I do not fill up on greasy or carb laden foods . many that do not like being obese do not hate the weight enough to eat in the ways that will help to shed lbs
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Maid_of_Mischief1 wrote: »No... did you ever think that maybe that classmate of yours had other issues and that's why she's eating like she Is? I'm sure she doesn't want to be the size she is but just hasn't had the motivation or maybe resources to help her get there. It's definitly not a pet peeve of mine when someone asks me things like that, I'm more than happy to talk to them about my lifestyle that helps me be where I am.All of the other subtexts of this thread aside, I think I'd get annoyed if anyone kept asking me the same question and accused me of withholding "secret" information for some reason.
Maybe just try to explain it differently. Something like "The concept is simple, but the execution is not. Eat healthier, exercise more. Repeat." Then maybe offer suggestions of how to do those things.
^^This. I would probably try to explain a few times then I would give up. I have little patience for people who play games like this.
Maybe if you suggest (nicely) that she log her food intake for a couple of days to see what she's really eating. Or just suggest that's how YOU got started. She may not even realize how many calories she is ingesting. I know that when I began to log on MFP it was a real eye opener!
In the end, though, whatever she does or doesn't do is on her. You tried. That's all you can do.0 -
My secret.
Me:
Fantasy:
Me still:
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I was entering the shop front of a gas station one time and a guy asked me "How long did it take for you to get into that kind of shape bro"?
Without stopping I said "about 15 years".6 -
KiwiLifter wrote: »I was entering the shop front of a gas station one time and a guy asked me "How long did it take for you to get into that kind of shape bro"?
Without stopping I said "about 15 years".
Yes, and I bet he was totally crushed when you said that, since he was hoping it was more like 15 weeks. Some of the people I know want immediate results and if some big change doesn't happen in a week, they give up and call it impossible. Imagine if fitness was an on-going process that actually took time and effort to build and maintain? Hardly anyone would be doing it.
Real, lasting, quality results don't happen overnight. People don't just "wake up like this." It's a long term investment. And personalities that need instant gratification struggle with the concept. Most people can achieve realistic goals. It's just a matter of priorities. How badly do you want it? If staying the same is easier, more comfortable and familiar, you are less likely to make a change. That's true with life in general.
Some people value health and fitness less than others, and I'm cool with that. I mean, I'm lazy in life about certain things, too - like getting ahead career-wise, etc. Other people work really hard to get to the top of their game, while I'm fine just doing well and staying where I am. It's not a huge priority for me to climb that ladder. So I get that not everybody is going to care as much about fitness as I do, either.
I just wish more people would realize that there's no magic secret or shortcut to most things in life. A lot of people seem to want to "cheat" their way to a quick victory - why would I work hard if there's a pill I can take instead? But in reality, you either focus your energy, put in the time and effort to get a goal realized, or you don't.
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lavinia_whateley_goals wrote: »this post vintage mfp, like a fine wine combining fat shaming, a touch of humble bragging and the faint note of flame baiting
pairs well with dry humor
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KiwiLifter wrote: »I was entering the shop front of a gas station one time and a guy asked me "How long did it take for you to get into that kind of shape bro"?
Without stopping I said "about 15 years".
Yes, and I bet he was totally crushed when you said that, since he was hoping it was more like 15 weeks. Some of the people I know want immediate results and if some big change doesn't happen in a week, they give up and call it impossible. Imagine if fitness was an on-going process that actually took time and effort to build and maintain? Hardly anyone would be doing it.
Real, lasting, quality results don't happen overnight. People don't just "wake up like this." It's a long term investment. And personalities that need instant gratification struggle with the concept. Most people can achieve realistic goals. It's just a matter of priorities. How badly do you want it? If staying the same is easier, more comfortable and familiar, you are less likely to make a change. That's true with life in general.
Some people value health and fitness less than others, and I'm cool with that. I mean, I'm lazy in life about certain things, too - like getting ahead career-wise, etc. Other people work really hard to get to the top of their game, while I'm fine just doing well and staying where I am. It's not a huge priority for me to climb that ladder. So I get that not everybody is going to care as much about fitness as I do, either.
I just wish more people would realize that there's no magic secret or shortcut to most things in life. A lot of people seem to want to "cheat" their way to a quick victory - why would I work hard if there's a pill I can take instead? But in reality, you either focus your energy, put in the time and effort to get a goal realized, or you don't.
Hey I used to feel that way about average people who worked out. I was a professional athlete and weight was a huge part of my sport. I could drop weight quickly and was in tremdous physical shape. So I looked at people that were "in shape" as many that workout look at people who are overweight looking for a quick solution. Everyone has a story, and it's human nature to take the path of least resistance. Some people respond to "You just need to get up and do it", and some have issues where there needs fixing before that can happen. Everyones own success is anecdotal, what works for you might not yet fit into someones mindset. I'm a results guy.....so my gauge of success is based on getting the job done. Sometimes a foundation doesn't exist for a house you are trying to build and it will ultimately fall down every time until you pour that foundation. As a trainer, I don't have the patience to build houses in the sand.1 -
Never going to tell the secret. Spent too much money getting the records sealed.3
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I get the you look great now and say what I didn't before. But so many people say they can't and as Yoda says that is why you fail. I did it, I don't consider myself overly special in that regard so why can't they? It's really a matter of getting your priorities in line and for me my health went higher on my list than was before. If the person isn't willing to change that it won't matter. But most people are very disappointed to hear I work my a** off and watch what I eat and it has taken 1.5 years to get where I'm at and I'm only 2/3 way there.1
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Yes and no. "Yes" in that it does get really old having to constantly answer the same questions for any topic, mainly because I don't like to repeat myself (but that's my issue, not the person who has asked me one time). I don't mind at all when someone asks me once, but if that same person keeps asking me over and over and over, I'd have to put a stop to it, probably by asking *them* some questions.
"No" in that it does mean I've been successful enough for people to notice, and it's my opportunity to share the thoughts and actions that helped me, so that maybe a light bulb will go off for someone else who is miserable.
If you want to change your life badly enough, you will find your own way to do it and keep working at it. You should definitely talk to other people who've made these changes, but don't hound them repeatedly, because your problem is not their problem to solve for you.
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