Cooking oil. Coconut oil or other healthy alternative?
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I use butter for eggs, pancakes, etc, coconut oil for quesadillas (tastes good this way, but haven't tried with a lot of other foods due to the flavor), and olive oil for most everything else. We do try to steam our vegetables first, and then add olive oil right at the end of cooking. We don't really do much cooking of meat with oil. More likely to simmer in a sauce or cook in the crock pot.1
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blackcatfitness wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »There's nothing wrong with other vegetable oils either: I personally use just a tiny bit of oil spray for eggs, but for sautéing vegetables or pan frying I use good old sunflower oil.
There's everything wrong with vegetable oils...... There's as much calories in a teaspoon of oil as there is in 2lbs of broccoli.
Use water in place of oils.
Remember - you wear the fat you eat.
"You wear the fat you eat"? Did your grandma tell you that? Total myth. Dietary fat ≠ body fat.
Report back when you make a grilled cheese sandwich with water instead of butter. I'd love to know how great it tastes!
Fat = flavour. Many great chefs will tell you that. I don't want to live in a world without my butter and oils!
I am whole food plant based. I do not consume dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods, saturated fats, oils, or caffeine. I have been on this WOE for 3 months and have lost 25lbs and have gained muscle. It’s called the McDougall lifestyle but I’m sure you’ll all quickly scream how dangerous or awful it is.
Okay, but it's also possible to lose weight on plans that include those things. You haven't discovered the sole method for weight loss.
Also, whoever told there there are as many calories in a teaspoon of oil as in 2 pounds of broccoli is wrong. 2 pounds of broccoli has about 300 calories. A teaspoon of oil has about 40.10 -
Nothing wrong with olive oil. It is an unsaturated fat.
I use a silicon brush to lightly oil my pan.
I made roasted Bok Choy and onions last night. I put the cut vegetables in a disposable plastic bag, added a couple tablespoons oil, pepper, and soy sauce. Shaking the bag guaranteed even distribution. Oil makes it easier to evenly distribute the oven heat. I then spread out the vegetables on a lined cookie tray and put them in a 400 degree oven for 15 minutes. The vegetables came out sweet with just a touch of caramelization. Perfect.4 -
I have used Crisco brand coconut oil and do not bring up the temp to high but cook a little longer on low-med heat. I have not detected any flavor change in this way.2
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blackcatfitness wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »There's nothing wrong with other vegetable oils either: I personally use just a tiny bit of oil spray for eggs, but for sautéing vegetables or pan frying I use good old sunflower oil.
There's everything wrong with vegetable oils...... There's as much calories in a teaspoon of oil as there is in 2lbs of broccoli.
Use water in place of oils.
Remember - you wear the fat you eat.
"You wear the fat you eat"? Did your grandma tell you that? Total myth. Dietary fat ≠ body fat.
Report back when you make a grilled cheese sandwich with water instead of butter. I'd love to know how great it tastes!
Fat = flavour. Many great chefs will tell you that. I don't want to live in a world without my butter and oils!
I am whole food plant based. I do not consume dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods, saturated fats, oils, or caffeine. I have been on this WOE for 3 months and have lost 25lbs and have gained muscle. It’s called the McDougall lifestyle but I’m sure you’ll all quickly scream how dangerous or awful it is.
Extremely doubtful, especially with how aggressive that weight loss is, and the fact that it's very difficult for women to gain muscle. If you believe you are, what protein levels are you eating per day and what is your training schedule? It is actually harder for whole plant based followers to gain muscle unless they are eating a lot of soy and following a well structured routine, and more than likely gaining weight. Leucine is low in plant based foods, except soy, which is why meat and dairy are far superior to stimulate muscle protein synthesis and support protein turnover.
It's not dangerous what you are doing, but it also isn't anything special. McDougall is just a plant based fanatic. A lot of what he states about meats and dairy are overhyped and unsupported by a lot of evidence. But if you enjoy the diet, there is nothing wrong with it. Just dont' believe you are gaining muscle.
ETA: a tidbit of information. If you don't eat enough saturate fat, your body will produce it from carbs.. it's that vital.18 -
Hello, I am eating healthier and exercising nowdays and am looking to switching cooking oils. I currently use olive oil (the Fillipo Berio brand) but want to switch to a healthy alternative. I tried using coconut oil (virgin, unrefined) to make eggs today but I found the taste of coconuts so empowering that I couldn't eat the eggs and had to throw them out. So, does anyone know if there is a scent-free version of coconut oil or is there an alternative cooking oil that I can use that is relatively scent/taste-free?
I believe there is a refined version of coconut oil that is deodorized but I don't think it has the same nutritional benefit as unrefined?
Thanks
Olive oil is a perfectly healthy cooking oil. I select my cooking oils based upon what I'm cooking. I tend to use avocado oil for higher temperatures and olive oil for lower temperatures like a quick sautee. I like the taste of coconut so I like using unrefined coconut oil in Caribbean dishes and Thai dishes...I sometimes use it with eggs, but usually butter.
Refined coconut oil won't have the taste.
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I like coconut oil, and it doesnt leave a weird taste in any of my foods. I use it in a lot of cooking and as a butter replacement. but everything in moderation. and if not in food it works well as a hair treatment.2
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blackcatfitness wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »There's nothing wrong with other vegetable oils either: I personally use just a tiny bit of oil spray for eggs, but for sautéing vegetables or pan frying I use good old sunflower oil.
There's everything wrong with vegetable oils...... There's as much calories in a teaspoon of oil as there is in 2lbs of broccoli.
Use water in place of oils.
Remember - you wear the fat you eat.
"You wear the fat you eat"? Did your grandma tell you that? Total myth. Dietary fat ≠ body fat.
Report back when you make a grilled cheese sandwich with water instead of butter. I'd love to know how great it tastes!
Fat = flavour. Many great chefs will tell you that. I don't want to live in a world without my butter and oils!
I am whole food plant based. I do not consume dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods, saturated fats, oils, or caffeine. I have been on this WOE for 3 months and have lost 25lbs and have gained muscle. It’s called the McDougall lifestyle but I’m sure you’ll all quickly scream how dangerous or awful it is.
What do you eat?0 -
DJ_Skywalker wrote: »
I just can't stand coconut oil, with the exception of making fried cheese/mozzarella sticks.
And I have Kodiac pancakes in which I use 2% milk and eggs.3 -
DJ_Skywalker wrote: »
I just can't stand coconut oil, with the exception of making fried cheese/mozzarella sticks.
And I have Kodiac pancakes in which I use 2% milk and eggs.
Mmmmm yum! I don’t care for coconut as much except in my Samoas but it does make pancakes more tolerable for me.
I like chocolate chips in my pancakes0 -
blackcatfitness wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »There's nothing wrong with other vegetable oils either: I personally use just a tiny bit of oil spray for eggs, but for sautéing vegetables or pan frying I use good old sunflower oil.
There's everything wrong with vegetable oils...... There's as much calories in a teaspoon of oil as there is in 2lbs of broccoli.
Use water in place of oils.
Remember - you wear the fat you eat.
"You wear the fat you eat"? Did your grandma tell you that? Total myth. Dietary fat ≠ body fat.
Report back when you make a grilled cheese sandwich with water instead of butter. I'd love to know how great it tastes!
Fat = flavour. Many great chefs will tell you that. I don't want to live in a world without my butter and oils!
I am whole food plant based. I do not consume dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods, saturated fats, oils, or caffeine. I have been on this WOE for 3 months and have lost 25lbs and have gained muscle. It’s called the McDougall lifestyle but I’m sure you’ll all quickly scream how dangerous or awful it is.
Sounds like a miserable, unsustainable way of eating. You know your brain needs dietary fat to function well, right?6 -
blackcatfitness wrote: »
We eat from our garden. Can’t beat that. Enjoy your animal flesh
I do both. So there!
Greens, tomatoes and a big ol' hunk of cow flesh. Yum!!20 -
blackcatfitness wrote: »We eat from our garden. Can’t beat that. Enjoy your animal flesh
I eat all kinds of plant-based foods both from the garden and from the store, olive oil straight from the press (you need to experience seeing olives turn into oil at least once in your life, it's an otherworldly experience), generic highly refined cooking oil from the store, dairy, meat sometimes, packaged and processed goods, typical sugary and salty snack foods, and fast food on occasion when I feel like it. I also enjoy a healthy social life and no one has to tiptoe around my food choices or be concerned that I would judge theirs. I've lost more than 100 pounds. What am I doing wrong that made me unable to wear the fat I continue to eat every day.15 -
blackcatfitness wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »There's nothing wrong with other vegetable oils either: I personally use just a tiny bit of oil spray for eggs, but for sautéing vegetables or pan frying I use good old sunflower oil.
There's everything wrong with vegetable oils...... There's as much calories in a teaspoon of oil as there is in 2lbs of broccoli.
Use water in place of oils.
Remember - you wear the fat you eat.
"You wear the fat you eat"? Did your grandma tell you that? Total myth. Dietary fat ≠ body fat.
Report back when you make a grilled cheese sandwich with water instead of butter. I'd love to know how great it tastes!
Fat = flavour. Many great chefs will tell you that. I don't want to live in a world without my butter and oils!
I am whole food plant based. I do not consume dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods, saturated fats, oils, or caffeine. I have been on this WOE for 3 months and have lost 25lbs and have gained muscle. It’s called the McDougall lifestyle but I’m sure you’ll all quickly scream how dangerous or awful it is.
I don't think it's dangerous or awful. (I'd say you don't eat "added sugar" as of course you eat sugar, and McDougall permits plenty of processed foods, he's pretty big on all starches, as I recall.)
I do think telling others that 1 tsp of oil has the same calories as 2 lb of broccoli is inaccurate.
And I think demonizing having a little oil with your food is unnecessary and wouldn't work for everyone.
And I think "the fat you eat is the fat you wear" is simply wrong.11 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »blackcatfitness wrote: »There's nothing wrong with other vegetable oils either: I personally use just a tiny bit of oil spray for eggs, but for sautéing vegetables or pan frying I use good old sunflower oil.
There's everything wrong with vegetable oils...... There's as much calories in a teaspoon of oil as there is in 2lbs of broccoli.
Use water in place of oils.
Remember - you wear the fat you eat.
"You wear the fat you eat"? Did your grandma tell you that? Total myth. Dietary fat ≠ body fat.
Report back when you make a grilled cheese sandwich with water instead of butter. I'd love to know how great it tastes!
Fat = flavour. Many great chefs will tell you that. I don't want to live in a world without my butter and oils!
I am whole food plant based. I do not consume dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods, saturated fats, oils, or caffeine. I have been on this WOE for 3 months and have lost 25lbs and have gained muscle. It’s called the McDougall lifestyle but I’m sure you’ll all quickly scream how dangerous or awful it is.
I don't think it's dangerous or awful. (I'd say you don't eat "added sugar" as of course you eat sugar, and McDougall permits plenty of processed foods, he's pretty big on all starches, as I recall.)
I do think telling others that 1 tsp of oil has the same calories as 2 lb of broccoli is inaccurate.
And I think demonizing having a little oil with your food is unnecessary and wouldn't work for everyone.
And I think "the fat you eat is the fat you wear" is simply wrong.
IIRC correctly, the McDougall plan allows things like whole grain pastas, pre-made salad dressings (assuming they meet certain guidelines), flavored vinegars, frozen potatoes, snacks like pretzels and crackers, canned/dried soups, some plant milks, etc. Anyone who tells you that the McDougall plan eliminates processed foods either doesn't understand the plan or is using an alternate definition of "processed"7 -
Following up re the claim that the McDougall plan involves no processed food. As I suspected, not true. This is from McDougall:
The following are proposed substitutes for the forbidden foods:
Substitutes for Cow’s Milk: Lowfat soy milk, rice milk, fruit juice
Cheese: soy- and nut-based cheeses
Cottage cheese: crumbled tofu
Ice cream: pure fruit sorbet, frozen juice bars, Lite Tofutti
Eggs (in cooking) Ener-G Egg Replacer
Meat, poultry, fish: pasta, tofu “meat” recipes (and various other things)
Mayonnaise: Tofu mayonnaise
White flour (refined): Whole grain flours
Refined and sugar-coated cereals Any acceptable hot or cold cereal
Chocolate: Carob powder
My point here is just that he permits plenty of processed foods.9 -
Fat is fat. I hear coconut oil isn't the vogue anymore anyway.1
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Following up re the claim that the McDougall plan involves no processed food. As I suspected, not true. This is from McDougall:
The following are proposed substitutes for the forbidden foods:
Substitutes for Cow’s Milk: Lowfat soy milk, rice milk, fruit juice
Cheese: soy- and nut-based cheeses
Cottage cheese: crumbled tofu
Ice cream: pure fruit sorbet, frozen juice bars, Lite Tofutti
Eggs (in cooking) Ener-G Egg Replacer
Meat, poultry, fish: pasta, tofu “meat” recipes (and various other things)
Mayonnaise: Tofu mayonnaise
White flour (refined): Whole grain flours
Refined and sugar-coated cereals Any acceptable hot or cold cereal
Chocolate: Carob powder
My point here is just that he permits plenty of processed foods.
All from right out of the garden!
OP, for the most part, oil is oil. If you could come back and tell us why you want a sub for olive oil, you might get more targeted answers. But all oils are pretty much the same calories and fat. I use olive oil for pretty much everything.8 -
blackcatfitness wrote: »
We eat from our garden. Can’t beat that. Enjoy your animal flesh
If I had to eat from my garden only, I'd be pretty darned malnourished right now given how little grows in early March (or Feb or Jan) where I live.
I am looking forward to planting when I can.6
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