Chiropractic care
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I had a chiro tell me once that he was able to cure cancer through spinal adjustments, and that my spine was so far gone I likely wouldn't be able to walk or turn my head at all on a few years, and that it would be too late to help me at that stage. He recommended I commence immediate twice weekly sessions at the price of $250 per session, or could sign up for a bargain package deal at $1200 per month. I didn't go back. Total quack.
That was 4 years ago by the way, and I still seem to be able to turn my head and can walk with ease!6 -
sportychic87 wrote: »I see one fairly regularly. But I also have back problems that benefit from regular adjustments. I had 4 herniated disks by 19. Have had surgery on 2 of them. And to keep the rest of my back in line I have to go.
I do notice when I don’t go for an extended period of time that my first adjustment back does make me quite sore the following day. Which doesn’t happen to everyone.
I wouldn’t be able to function on a daily basis without a chiropractor so while I know and understand there are other risks FOR ME the pros of being able to feel my hands and stand up definitely outweigh risks of stroke. I’ll already never have full functionality in one of my legs because of nerve damage from before I had my surgery almost 10 years ago.
That being said. There are some crazy flipping chiropractors out there and some of them are full of woo. You have to use a modicum of common sense and also know what you’re looking for.
My sympathies for your back problems.
It could be that your back "feels better" only because it's stopped hurting after the chiropractor made it hurt.
Chiropractic is a "self-licking icecream cone".
Or it could be that not having my vertebrae misaligned influences pressure put on my herniated disks and nerves making it possible for proper nerve functioning and blood flow to my extremities.
Like I said I have herniated disks that resulted in nerve damage that’s going to be permenant.
Like I stated previously. I am physically not capable of functioning when I don’t go to get adjusted regularly, like can’t walk because I’m in so much pain. Can’t do my job functions because my hands are tingling and numb so I can’t type.
It’s not for everyone and I get that. But trying to say that what clearly works for me. Doesn’t work just because it doesn’t work for you is ridiculous. You don’t live your life in my body nor I in yours. It works for me, gives me a better quality of life. since I’m 28 and enjoy getting out of bed....
Like I said, you have my sympathy. You obviously find it very frustrating since you're accusing me of things I didn't say. Your pain shows through your words.
Have you tried seeing a physiotherapist to get exercises you can do yourself to flex the spine the same way?
I'd hate for you to suffer financially as well with never-ending chiro bills when you possibly might not have to.
I have tried physical therapy, I have done quite literally anything possible and chiropractic is what works for me.
My chiro isn't the crazy type having me go 3 times a week for no good reason. I go once, maybe twice a month, if necessary. $20 a month is not breaking the bank for me by any means.
I'm sorry if I accused you of something you didn't say. I thought self licking ice cream cone was a bit condescending so I got a bit defensive.
I actually envisioned the said ‘self licking ice cream cone’ and I got a good chuckle out of it. I miss ice cream so much!
There sure seem to be a lot of different opinions on this. Luckily, all of our opinions are valid as there’s not been sufficient research done (IMO). While it has not helped me (and I’m actually still in pain from my chiropractic visit 5 days later), it is possible for it to help others. It could be placebo, or that it loosens up muscles and relieves tension (I bet acupuncture/needling would have much a similar effect).
I’m just surprised that there’s been so little research on something so prevalent {Shrug}
There has been a ton of research. And it has never been shown to be effective for anything but lower back pain
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lemongirlbc wrote: »I had a chiro tell me once that he was able to cure cancer through spinal adjustments, and that my spine was so far gone I likely wouldn't be able to walk or turn my head at all on a few years, and that it would be too late to help me at that stage. He recommended I commence immediate twice weekly sessions at the price of $250 per session, or could sign up for a bargain package deal at $1200 per month. I didn't go back. Total quack.
That was 4 years ago by the way, and I still seem to be able to turn my head and can walk with ease!
Mine predicted devastating foot pain unless I bought his special insoles. At the same time, he separated my chest muscles by pushing so hard on my spine, then told me I was getting better when I complained about the pain immediately and during the next 3 sessions. When the tissues beneath started protruding through the tear, I went to my GP who sent me to a surgeon for a titanium patch.
My initial complaint was a pain in one shoulder, which resolved itself when I finally switched from a mouse to a track pad. A PT would have known to ask me that.
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Thank you for this thread, OP, though it hasn't helped me one bit, lol.
Decades ago, I went to a chiro for a pinched nerve, had a pleasant, soothing experience that solved the problem, and went about my life.
The last few years, I've been having increasing pain & problems with my back and I went to a chiro last week that was recommended by a friend and who had been voted "best chiro" in our area several years. It was painful, scary, and unnerving for me. I left in tears, but unsure if the issue was the treatment or just me & my perception. The chiro had warned me it would be rough, supposedly because my nerves would have heightened sensitivity from the chronic pain, but also implied I was being a baby (I've had 2 natural childbirths- I don't really consider myself a baby). I haven't been able to decide if I should give it another chance, or pursue a lengthy, expensive medical diagnosis/treatment. Making the choice even more difficult, I suspect a large part of the problem is the extra weight I'm still carrying, but the pain is making it harder to be active and making me depressed & seeking comfort in food. *sigh*
So I did a search here for other peoples' experiences with chiropractic care & found this thread... and now I really don't have a clue what to think
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it was started by a magnetic healer in the 1800s. It only seems to work because they often also do massages and other forms of physical therapy1
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Thank you for this thread, OP, though it hasn't helped me one bit, lol.
Decades ago, I went to a chiro for a pinched nerve, had a pleasant, soothing experience that solved the problem, and went about my life.
The last few years, I've been having increasing pain & problems with my back and I went to a chiro last week that was recommended by a friend and who had been voted "best chiro" in our area several years. It was painful, scary, and unnerving for me. I left in tears, but unsure if the issue was the treatment or just me & my perception. The chiro had warned me it would be rough, supposedly because my nerves would have heightened sensitivity from the chronic pain, but also implied I was being a baby (I've had 2 natural childbirths- I don't really consider myself a baby). I haven't been able to decide if I should give it another chance, or pursue a lengthy, expensive medical diagnosis/treatment. Making the choice even more difficult, I suspect a large part of the problem is the extra weight I'm still carrying, but the pain is making it harder to be active and making me depressed & seeking comfort in food. *sigh*
So I did a search here for other peoples' experiences with chiropractic care & found this thread... and now I really don't have a clue what to think
It's true about chronic pain. I've had pain management doctors and nurses tell me that having chronic pain changes our nerves after a while which makes even minor pain feel more painful basically everything hurts more. I can't explain it very well but that has been my experience. I just assumed that my ain tolerance was going down but no everything is more painful0 -
I used to think chiropractic care was unneeded BS, but when I was pregnant with my 3rd child, at about 20 weeks, I started to get vertigo attacks, the farther into the pregnancy the more often they came and the worse they got. I gained 5lbs that pregnancy because I spent the last half throwing up. When he was born, I had a intrathical and they did it wrong, the thing didnt work and I was leaking spinal fluid, 1 week later I had a horrible vertigo attack that landed me in the hospital 2 days in a row (and i never go to the doctors, like ever), and I had to stay at my moms for a week because I couldnt take care of my kids. Then they came like clockwork every 18 months and every one landed me in the hospital due to uncontrollable vomiting and dehydration. I seen a number of specialists and had about $6000 in doctor bills from all the tests they did and no one could ever find out what was causing it. It wasnt inner ear, wasnt neurological, everyone was stumped. Then 5 years after my 3rd child I got pregnant with my last, at 20 weeks they started coming again, and I decided maybe the pressure of baby on my spine, maybe something was pinched. So I asked my doctor if I should see a chiropractor, and she said it was worth a shot, so I did. After that I had only 1 attack the whole rest of the pregnancy (vs the 1 every week to every other week I was having) and that baby is 3 1/2 now and I have not had an attack since.
Now I havent gone to one in 3 years, but if my vertigo ever comes back, that will be the first place I go.1 -
Ok this is a better explanation central sensitization @try2again https://www.painscience.com/articles/central-sensitization.php1
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singingflutelady wrote: »Thank you for this thread, OP, though it hasn't helped me one bit, lol.
Decades ago, I went to a chiro for a pinched nerve, had a pleasant, soothing experience that solved the problem, and went about my life.
The last few years, I've been having increasing pain & problems with my back and I went to a chiro last week that was recommended by a friend and who had been voted "best chiro" in our area several years. It was painful, scary, and unnerving for me. I left in tears, but unsure if the issue was the treatment or just me & my perception. The chiro had warned me it would be rough, supposedly because my nerves would have heightened sensitivity from the chronic pain, but also implied I was being a baby (I've had 2 natural childbirths- I don't really consider myself a baby). I haven't been able to decide if I should give it another chance, or pursue a lengthy, expensive medical diagnosis/treatment. Making the choice even more difficult, I suspect a large part of the problem is the extra weight I'm still carrying, but the pain is making it harder to be active and making me depressed & seeking comfort in food. *sigh*
So I did a search here for other peoples' experiences with chiropractic care & found this thread... and now I really don't have a clue what to think
It's true about chronic pain. I've had pain management doctors and nurses tell me that having chronic pain changes our nerves after a while which makes even minor pain feel more painful basically everything hurts more. I can't explain it very well but that has been my experience. I just assumed that my ain tolerance was going down but no everything is more painful
This is almost word for word what he told me. He illustrated it by saying if you walked around for a long time with a tack in your shoe, and every time you took a step it poked you, even when the tack is removed, your brain would likely still interpret the pressure of a step as painful. That makes sense to me, but didn't make the experience more tolerable
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singingflutelady wrote: »Ok this is a better explanation central sensitization @try2again https://www.painscience.com/articles/central-sensitization.php
Thank you- that was interesting.
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singingflutelady wrote: »Thank you for this thread, OP, though it hasn't helped me one bit, lol.
Decades ago, I went to a chiro for a pinched nerve, had a pleasant, soothing experience that solved the problem, and went about my life.
The last few years, I've been having increasing pain & problems with my back and I went to a chiro last week that was recommended by a friend and who had been voted "best chiro" in our area several years. It was painful, scary, and unnerving for me. I left in tears, but unsure if the issue was the treatment or just me & my perception. The chiro had warned me it would be rough, supposedly because my nerves would have heightened sensitivity from the chronic pain, but also implied I was being a baby (I've had 2 natural childbirths- I don't really consider myself a baby). I haven't been able to decide if I should give it another chance, or pursue a lengthy, expensive medical diagnosis/treatment. Making the choice even more difficult, I suspect a large part of the problem is the extra weight I'm still carrying, but the pain is making it harder to be active and making me depressed & seeking comfort in food. *sigh*
So I did a search here for other peoples' experiences with chiropractic care & found this thread... and now I really don't have a clue what to think
It's true about chronic pain. I've had pain management doctors and nurses tell me that having chronic pain changes our nerves after a while which makes even minor pain feel more painful basically everything hurts more. I can't explain it very well but that has been my experience. I just assumed that my ain tolerance was going down but no everything is more painful
This is almost word for word what he told me. He illustrated it by saying if you walked around for a long time with a tack in your shoe, and every time you took a step it poked you, even when the tack is removed, your brain would likely still interpret the pressure of a step as painful. That makes sense to me, but didn't make the experience more tolerable
Of course not. And the fact he called you a baby is inexcusable.0 -
There are a number of things legitimate chiropractors can definitely help with, but they cannot help with everything by any means. You get into problems when the chiros start making wild claims and start doing more than simple adjustments. Chiropractic makes sense to me, in its true form. Most bones in your body can slip out of place and cause major problems, but somehow the vertebrae in your spine are never going to wedge out of place a little and cause pain and mobility problems? C'mon now, that doesn't seem logical. I'm guessing no one believes in massage therapy either? I think chiro and massage go hand in hand, and have experienced quite a lot of relief from both. Oh, and I've also had a bad chiropractor try to help me, and it was terrible. He seemed off to begin with and my desperation to feel better made me dumb and let him have a go anyway. Stupid of me. Also had a bad masseuse put me in misery, and not the good kind. I didn't know she sucked until the session was well under way. Not sure how it could be the placebo effect when you experience both good results and bad. Just avoid the quacky ones who claim they can cure everything. But that goes for literally any profession, LOL! Also, it's good idea to first talk to your medical doctor if you have something going on that you don't really know what it is causing the pain. Just because you have pain in your back does not mean it's something a chiropractor (or massage therapist) can or should touch.1
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singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Thank you for this thread, OP, though it hasn't helped me one bit, lol.
Decades ago, I went to a chiro for a pinched nerve, had a pleasant, soothing experience that solved the problem, and went about my life.
The last few years, I've been having increasing pain & problems with my back and I went to a chiro last week that was recommended by a friend and who had been voted "best chiro" in our area several years. It was painful, scary, and unnerving for me. I left in tears, but unsure if the issue was the treatment or just me & my perception. The chiro had warned me it would be rough, supposedly because my nerves would have heightened sensitivity from the chronic pain, but also implied I was being a baby (I've had 2 natural childbirths- I don't really consider myself a baby). I haven't been able to decide if I should give it another chance, or pursue a lengthy, expensive medical diagnosis/treatment. Making the choice even more difficult, I suspect a large part of the problem is the extra weight I'm still carrying, but the pain is making it harder to be active and making me depressed & seeking comfort in food. *sigh*
So I did a search here for other peoples' experiences with chiropractic care & found this thread... and now I really don't have a clue what to think
It's true about chronic pain. I've had pain management doctors and nurses tell me that having chronic pain changes our nerves after a while which makes even minor pain feel more painful basically everything hurts more. I can't explain it very well but that has been my experience. I just assumed that my ain tolerance was going down but no everything is more painful
This is almost word for word what he told me. He illustrated it by saying if you walked around for a long time with a tack in your shoe, and every time you took a step it poked you, even when the tack is removed, your brain would likely still interpret the pressure of a step as painful. That makes sense to me, but didn't make the experience more tolerable
Of course not. And the fact he called you a baby is inexcusable.
*implied* Again, my perception based on his word choice & tone, and I admit I could be wrong- I was more than a little rattled at the time 0
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