Getting ripped without a gym membership
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Davidsdottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Still waiting for the OP's secrets to lean bulking without a gym/barbell. I's gots to know!
I am more curious on how he can build 25 lbs of muscles with no resistance training and using only bodyweight, that would be a scientific breakthrough.
I love how savage you guys are. @Davidsdottir You are definitely growing on me
See, I'm not so bad!
I guess not haha. Though your ever changing leggings are quite entertaining.
Yknow.. I'm not overly confident that the OP is going to keep us updated on his progress anymore:/.6 -
Putting on 25lbs in a year is doable, but certainly not while staying lean unless you plan on breaking out the needles. The 25lbs you put on will be around 12-15lbs of fat so you won't be ripped so you will have to cut and that will sacrifice a bit of muscle to get down the fat then you'll only be up about 8-10lbs or muscle. This is if you are doing a bodybuilding routine in a gym, I'm not sure what you can gain on bodyweight only exercises but likely somewhat less since you won't be maximizing muscle stimulation. This isn't a knock against bodyweight, but it just takes more time due to the leverages that need to be overcome. You just don't see that many people who are really big from bodyweight only.
I used to workout with a group that alternated between bodyweight and weight training and we always lost size during the bodyweight phase of training. It just doesn't stimulate the muscles the same way nor as maximally, but the things you could do with your body were pretty damn impressive.4 -
I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!8 -
I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
I love how people can pin point exactly how much muscles they have gained.6 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
I love how people can pin point exactly how much muscles they have gained.
It's simple. You just need a protractor, a graphing calculator, a scientific calculator, a scale, and an abacus.4 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
I love how people can pin point exactly how much muscles they have gained.
It's simple. You just need a protractor, a graphing calculator, a scientific calculator, a scale, and an abacus.
I am pretty sure she did that.2 -
Not to pile on, but I like to hit a Double Biceps with transition into Most Muscular pose and then estimate muscle poundage gained using a secret formula which is accurate to 0.01% (if done in my typical bathroom mirror lighting conditions).3
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Well, I hope the OP comes back so we can pummel him some more.
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Davidsdottir wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
I love how people can pin point exactly how much muscles they have gained.
It's simple. You just need a protractor, a graphing calculator, a scientific calculator, a scale, and an abacus.
Just all that stuff the overage person has
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Davidsdottir wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »I haven’t been successful in THAT much muscle gain (10 so far) but calistnics definitely work to a good degree for me.
I personally avoid the gym because I don’t feel like paying money for it. I can invest in basic equipment at home if needed.
You do you and keep at it and there’s no way you can’t accomplish your goals!
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
I love how people can pin point exactly how much muscles they have gained.
It's simple. You just need a protractor, a graphing calculator, a scientific calculator, a scale, and an abacus.
Just all that stuff the overage person has
*kitten*. Spell check. *average.1 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
Measure it? I didn’t just gain 10# total and assume it was muscle. It did take a while, I admit.7 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
Measure it? I didn’t just gain 10# total and assume it was muscle. It did take a while, I admit.
measure it HOW and how long did it take?0 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
Measure it? I didn’t just gain 10# total and assume it was muscle. It did take a while, I admit.
measure it HOW and how long did it take?
Lol I almost feel like you’re trying to troll. Let the OP work his heart out and support him
I’m trying. Isn’t that what we all need for our goals? If he learns he will have to readjust then he will.
And if you must know, I did say I didn’t put on 25# of ripped because that seemed like a lot. But encourage the guy anyways. What do I have to gain by tearing him down?
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
Measure it? I didn’t just gain 10# total and assume it was muscle. It did take a while, I admit.
measure it HOW and how long did it take?
Lol I almost feel like you’re trying to troll. Let the OP work his heart out and support him
I’m trying. Isn’t that what we all need for our goals? If he learns he will have to readjust then he will.
And if you must know, I did say I didn’t put on 25# of ripped because that seemed like a lot. But encourage the guy anyways. What do I have to gain by tearing him down?
While i think its inappropriate to tear a person down, i also think it wod be wrong for us to not set realistic expectations. The OP will not gain 25 lbs of pure muscle and a BW routine has a lower effacicy rate compared to barbell training. He can still do it, but it will take longer to achieve the same results. Which is also what can be said about brosplits.6 -
OP, you may be interested in browsing reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness they have a lot of material on bulking, cutting and maintaining with a primary focus on progressive calisthenics. FitnessFAQs (a youtuber) also has a lot of videos on his bodyweight fitness journey (dirty bulking, cutting back down, maintaining his weight). Good luck.1
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
Measure it? I didn’t just gain 10# total and assume it was muscle. It did take a while, I admit.
measure it HOW and how long did it take?
Lol I almost feel like you’re trying to troll. Let the OP work his heart out and support him
I’m trying. Isn’t that what we all need for our goals? If he learns he will have to readjust then he will.
And if you must know, I did say I didn’t put on 25# of ripped because that seemed like a lot. But encourage the guy anyways. What do I have to gain by tearing him down?
who was tearing him down? you made a claim that seems unlikely/improbably/curious so I was asking how you did it and how it was measured. you cannot make lofty claims on a public message board and think no one is going to question them.4 -
Avadahm,
Well,that is one of the reason I many times thought of leaving these forums. Don't get me wrong. Many people on here are very helpful and the app is amazing. I have issues with these forums sometimes. Many times when somebody come on with a different idea or experience etc, they are met by lots of backlash. There is ways to tell somebody and to teach and ask questions without sounding like a ..... doing it.
But...it is what it is. We can't all agree.
OP, good luck to you. Please show us progress pictures and prove the nay sayers wrong.8 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »
how do you know you have put on 10 lbs of muscle??
Measure it? I didn’t just gain 10# total and assume it was muscle. It did take a while, I admit.
You are being questioned because 10# of pure muscle would be respectable gain for a male, lifting weights properly with progression, his diet dialed in - for a YEARS worth of effort. It would be highly unlikely for a female to be able to add that much muscle mass in the same amount of time, even taking "newbie gains" of the first year into consideration.karintalley wrote: »Avadahm,
Well,that is one of the reason I many times thought of leaving these forums. Don't get me wrong. Many people on here are very helpful and the app is amazing. I have issues with these forums sometimes. Many times when somebody come on with a different idea or experience etc, they are met by lots of backlash. There is ways to tell somebody and to teach and ask questions without sounding like a bit ch doing it.
But...it is what it is. We can't all agree.
OP, good luck to you. Please show us progress pictures and prove the nay sayers wrong.
It's not "backlash"... it's a dose of reality. This guy is talking about working for a year towards a very specific goal. It's highly likely that he may spend that year spinning his wheels and ending up way short of his goals. He's free to continue to try anyhow and prove everybody wrong... but maybe post in "Motivation and Support" if all he wants is a "YAY, you go boy!" response.
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karintalley wrote: »Avadahm,
Well,that is one of the reason I many times thought of leaving these forums. Don't get me wrong. Many people on here are very helpful and the app is amazing. I have issues with these forums sometimes. Many times when somebody come on with a different idea or experience etc, they are met by lots of backlash. There is ways to tell somebody and to teach and ask questions without sounding like a ..... doing it.
But...it is what it is. We can't all agree.
OP, good luck to you. Please show us progress pictures and prove the nay sayers wrong.
I don't agree in tearing someone down but I'm also against this affirmation culture we seem to be in right now. Just because someone doesn't affirm your posts 100% and offers a proper critique of it doesn't mean that it's not a supportive post let alone tearing someone down. We often see people overreact to anything that doesn't support them in the exact way they want (or worse yet, the misguided white knights jumping in) and that's just not the way life works, not here or anywhere I know of.5 -
karintalley wrote: »Avadahm,
Well,that is one of the reason I many times thought of leaving these forums. Don't get me wrong. Many people on here are very helpful and the app is amazing. I have issues with these forums sometimes. Many times when somebody come on with a different idea or experience etc, they are met by lots of backlash. There is ways to tell somebody and to teach and ask questions without sounding like a ..... doing it.
But...it is what it is. We can't all agree.
OP, good luck to you. Please show us progress pictures and prove the nay sayers wrong.
I think people get frustrated and that is why there is negativity... they take the comments personally and feel like
..."well clearly if there was a way to do that I would not spend X amount of time/money doing Y to attain Z ...
...you know how sometimes someone will lie to your face and your first reaction tends to be "Do they think I am this DUMB?" ... instead of thinking "OK WOW this person needs help".
SOOOO this has nothing to do with the post but my way of encouraging you karintalley to relax through the adverse reactions and find the good information people do share...
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LotusFlwr2013 wrote: »karintalley wrote: »Avadahm,
Well,that is one of the reason I many times thought of leaving these forums. Don't get me wrong. Many people on here are very helpful and the app is amazing. I have issues with these forums sometimes. Many times when somebody come on with a different idea or experience etc, they are met by lots of backlash. There is ways to tell somebody and to teach and ask questions without sounding like a ..... doing it.
But...it is what it is. We can't all agree.
OP, good luck to you. Please show us progress pictures and prove the nay sayers wrong.
I think people get frustrated and that is why there is negativity... they take the comments personally and feel like
..."well clearly if there was a way to do that I would not spend X amount of time/money doing Y to attain Z ...
...you know how sometimes someone will lie to your face and your first reaction tends to be "Do they think I am this DUMB?" ... instead of thinking "OK WOW this person needs help".
SOOOO this has nothing to do with the post but my way of encouraging you karintalley to relax through the adverse reactions and find the good information people do share...
Thank you. You are right.
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I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
If you're under 25 and doing "military grade calisthenics" as a relatively untrained person 15-20 lbs in a year isn't inconceivable. It's suboptimal, no doubt. I gained 10-15 lbs of mostly muscle in basic training 20 years ago. I know it was mostly muscle, because I gained almost 4 inches across my chest and shoulders and nothing at the waist.2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
If you're under 25 and doing "military grade calisthenics" as a relatively untrained person 15-20 lbs in a year isn't inconceivable. It's suboptimal, no doubt. I gained 10-15 lbs of mostly muscle in basic training 20 years ago. I know it was mostly muscle, because I gained almost 4 inches across my chest and shoulders and nothing at the waist.
I'm impressed, or maybe it's the difference in our systems, but most of us actually lost muscle during basic due to the stress etc. Of course, I was only listening to those who were already in shape like I was, maybe the smaller, untrained members were actually gaining muscle.
Note, I did the officer training but I don't think recruit training was different. We certainly weren't treated any differently in physical training and discipline that I ever saw or heard of.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
If you're under 25 and doing "military grade calisthenics" as a relatively untrained person 15-20 lbs in a year isn't inconceivable. It's suboptimal, no doubt. I gained 10-15 lbs of mostly muscle in basic training 20 years ago. I know it was mostly muscle, because I gained almost 4 inches across my chest and shoulders and nothing at the waist.
I'm impressed, or maybe it's the difference in our systems, but most of us actually lost muscle during basic due to the stress etc. Of course, I was only listening to those who were already in shape like I was, maybe the smaller, untrained members were actually gaining muscle.
I was lean when I went to basic... I was freaking ripped when I got out. It is quite impressive considering how little we were given to eat and how short basic training is in the US.... 8-13 weeks depending on branch of service. I was the guidon carrier so was last in line for chow. We all had to finish and get up as a unit as soon as the drill instructors were done eating - and they didn't eat last. I learned to eat without chewing. lol2 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
If you're under 25 and doing "military grade calisthenics" as a relatively untrained person 15-20 lbs in a year isn't inconceivable. It's suboptimal, no doubt. I gained 10-15 lbs of mostly muscle in basic training 20 years ago. I know it was mostly muscle, because I gained almost 4 inches across my chest and shoulders and nothing at the waist.
I'm impressed, or maybe it's the difference in our systems, but most of us actually lost muscle during basic due to the stress etc. Of course, I was only listening to those who were already in shape like I was, maybe the smaller, untrained members were actually gaining muscle.
Note, I did the officer training but I don't think recruit training was different. We certainly weren't treated any differently in physical training and discipline that I ever saw or heard of.
It would be a rare bird who gains weight in basic.
You usually get really leaned out and drop 10-20lbs.
"A lean, mean, fight'n machine."
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I was under 145 when I entered... I was nearly 160 when I finished. So yes. I was on the small side(but not so small as to be on double rats) I was almost entirely unconditioned(in my upper body... I walked 8-15 miles a day for transportation)Wheelhouse15 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
If you're under 25 and doing "military grade calisthenics" as a relatively untrained person 15-20 lbs in a year isn't inconceivable. It's suboptimal, no doubt. I gained 10-15 lbs of mostly muscle in basic training 20 years ago. I know it was mostly muscle, because I gained almost 4 inches across my chest and shoulders and nothing at the waist.
I'm impressed, or maybe it's the difference in our systems, but most of us actually lost muscle during basic due to the stress etc. Of course, I was only listening to those who were already in shape like I was, maybe the smaller, untrained members were actually gaining muscle.
Note, I did the officer training but I don't think recruit training was different. We certainly weren't treated any differently in physical training and discipline that I ever saw or heard of.
Yes, isn't typical. But certainly possible
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I used to do nothing but calisthenics for a long time...I was in the Marines and afterwards I continued doing them because I preferred it to the gym. I was lean and fit and well defined with a good physique, but I'd hardly say that I was "ripped" or "jacked"
I think it would be incredibly difficult to put on 25 Lbs of lean mass in a year with body weight training. A newb in the gym with a solid lifting program would be lucky to put on 20 Lbs in a year, so I'm hard pressed to think that will happen with body weight training alone.
You can definitely build a nice physique with body weight...it's just the claim of 25 Lbs in a year or a year and a half that I have serious doubts about.
This is a pretty good article...
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
If you're under 25 and doing "military grade calisthenics" as a relatively untrained person 15-20 lbs in a year isn't inconceivable. It's suboptimal, no doubt. I gained 10-15 lbs of mostly muscle in basic training 20 years ago. I know it was mostly muscle, because I gained almost 4 inches across my chest and shoulders and nothing at the waist.
I'm impressed, or maybe it's the difference in our systems, but most of us actually lost muscle during basic due to the stress etc. Of course, I was only listening to those who were already in shape like I was, maybe the smaller, untrained members were actually gaining muscle.
Note, I did the officer training but I don't think recruit training was different. We certainly weren't treated any differently in physical training and discipline that I ever saw or heard of.
It would be a rare bird who gains weight in basic.
You usually get really leaned out and drop 10-20lbs.
"A lean, mean, fight'n machine."
Yeah, I lost about 10 pounds. It actually put me under the minimum. They didn't give a hoot in basic but once I was at AIT they put me on extra rations and made me stuff my face constantly... was a bit embarrassing. lol0
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