Sugar, hoping my post will be encouraging
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This thread has made me want Fairy Bread. (one of the best Australian kids party foods in existence)8
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »We, at least, used brown sugar and cinnamon on our toast. Never had it with white sugar.
We used white sugar, but with (of course) cinnamon, and lots of butter. Did it in the broiler (on a slice of whole wheat bread, since that's what we had, heh). It was an occasional snack, and did no harm. Wouldn't have substituted for a meal, and probably not even a huge number of calories.
The butter was an essential part of it, as was the cinnamon. Sugar sandwich seems to convey sugar between two pieces of bread, nothing else, which sounds disgusting to me, but cinnamon toast was tasty.
Yea, the sugar would fall off without some yummy butter slathered on the bread. Maybe the OP means more along the lines of a fat and sugar sandwich. When I made this as a kid, my sister and I were latchkey kids and left to our own devices, would make them open face. LOL4 -
Are there other foods or food components that we'd feel a lack of if we just cut them out completely? Caffeine comes to mind, but I'm sure there'd be physical and other symptoms if we just went 0 protein one day, or 0 fibre. Does that mean those things are bad?4
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I was brought up on mayonnaise sandwiches. Two peaces of wonder bread with nothing but mayo inside.1
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »Are there other foods or food components that we'd feel a lack of if we just cut them out completely? Caffeine comes to mind, but I'm sure there'd be physical and other symptoms if we just went 0 protein one day, or 0 fibre. Does that mean those things are bad?
Good point: I've gone zero fiber and zero protein for a single day, and felt terrible.
(Clear liquid diet for colonoscopy prep, and there are no vegetarian clear liquids that I know of that have protein. And I mean the part of the prep before the drugs: That's a different kind of "feel terrible". Granted, what I did drink was pretty much just sugar in water, but the "feel terrible" wasn't the symptoms of sugar "overdose" as reported by true believers, either. Might have been underfueling, though.
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Seriously: I take your point, but cutting back protein or fiber to zero would likely have permanent bad consequences, whereas the consequences of sharply reducing sugar do seem to be temporary. I don't know of anyone who's taken all sugars all the way to literal zero, either. (Not saying no such person exists.)6 -
Sugar is one of the components studied and optimized by the food industry to achieve the “bliss point” for the majority of people. The food industry employs scientists to find the ideal balance of fat, sugar and salt to appeal to most consumers, as well as to determine texture, mouth feel, ease of swallowing, etc. Dr. David Kessler (former head of the FDA) wrote a book about “hyper-palatability” of foods designed to tap into the brain’s reward system and how this can lead to overeating. More recently, NYT reporter Michael Moss wrote the book “Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us.” Sugars in candy bars, purchased cookies, etc. are part of what truly can be called a formula scientifically designed to be addictive. Here are a few links, if you’d like to read more:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/health/23well.html (How the Food Makers Captured Our Brains)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/26/AR2009042602711.html (David Kessler: Fat, Salt and Sugar Alter Brain Chemistry, Make Us Eat Junk Food)
https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=106470909 (transcript of interview with David Kessler, as well as Gail Civille, who, as president of Sensory Spectrum, studied what characteristics make people crave food)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html (on Salt Sugar Fat by Moss)
So they figured out the right combination of ingredients to make their food taste good so people would buy more of it and they could make money? That's kind of how business works.
I agree. People blame the food manufacturers for making them want to eat their food. I wonder how long they would stay in business if they made their food taste...nasty. Nothing worse than a doughnut without sugar in it.
There are healthier options out there if people are concerned...they just have a tendency to not taste as great.
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »We, at least, used brown sugar and cinnamon on our toast. Never had it with white sugar.
We used white sugar, but with (of course) cinnamon, and lots of butter. Did it in the broiler (on a slice of whole wheat bread, since that's what we had, heh). It was an occasional snack, and did no harm. Wouldn't have substituted for a meal, and probably not even a huge number of calories.
The butter was an essential part of it, as was the cinnamon. Sugar sandwich seems to convey sugar between two pieces of bread, nothing else, which sounds disgusting to me, but cinnamon toast was tasty.
Yea, the sugar would fall off without some yummy butter slathered on the bread. Maybe the OP means more along the lines of a fat and sugar sandwich. When I made this as a kid, my sister and I were latchkey kids and left to our own devices, would make them open face. LOL
Yeah, definitely have to be open face, which is one reason I think toast is a better name for them than sandwich.5 -
I guess i will be having a sugar sandwich tonight just to see what all the fuss is about.8
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I still eat peanut butter brown sugar sandwiches now and then. Yum. 4
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100_PROOF_ wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Which dried fruits?
The Dried fruit that is made up of................sugar ! Lol
Fruit sugar (fructose) is "sugar" fyi. Dried fruit is concentrated fruit sugar and weighs per gram than does the fruit it came from. Eat the actual fruit if you want to cut down on your simple carb ("sugar intake") intake.9 -
My 40 year old husband still eats buttered toast with white sugar and cinnamon. I never had that as a child, but my dad was unemployed for a while and I remember eating lots of mustard sandwiches. Whole grain bread and yellow mustard. I always thought it was pretty tasty, and I think I’d rather have that than a sugar sandwich.3
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100_PROOF_ wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Which dried fruits?
The Dried fruit that is made up of................sugar ! Lol
Fruit sugar (fructose) is "sugar" fyi. Dried fruit is concentrated fruit sugar and weighs per gram than does the fruit it came from. Eat the actual fruit if you want to cut down on your simple carb ("sugar intake") intake.
But a prune contains exactly the same simple carbs as a plum. With a glass of water alongside, it's the pretty much same thing, including satiation.
Unless you overeat the dried fruit, or extra sugar has been added, there's not much difference.5 -
Fruits are simple carbs.100_PROOF_ wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Which dried fruits?
The Dried fruit that is made up of................sugar ! Lol
Fruit sugar (fructose) is "sugar" fyi. Dried fruit is concentrated fruit sugar and weighs per gram than does the fruit it came from. Eat the actual fruit if you want to cut down on your simple carb ("sugar intake") intake.
Fructose is a monosaccharide. When bonded with the monosaccharide glucose, it forms the disaccharide called sucrose (sugar).
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My mom made me sugar sandwiches too. A piece of Wonder bread with butter and a few tablespoons of sugar and some cinnamon, then put it in the toaster oven. I just can’t.
Sugar sandwiches? So it's more like cinnamon toast made into a sandwich? Lol, I'd have loved that when I was a kid. Made plenty of cinnamon toast but never thought of making a sandwich out of it or I'd have done it lol.0 -
We ate sugar toast, mustard sandwiches, mayo sandwiches, potato chip sandwiches, and pickle sandwiches. We weren't necessarily poor, but I think there wasn't a variety of snacks available back then, so we got creative with what we had!0
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Sugar sandwiches were definately a thing in the 70s. Not toast.
My husband grew up poor in Boston. His mom made sugar sandwiches for her kids often. It was literally 2 pieces of wonder bread with butter and white sugar as the filling.1 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Which dried fruits?
Dried Fruits for me means raisins, currants, prunes, as well as cherries, apricots, dates.1 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Which dried fruits?
Dried Fruits for me means raisins, currants, prunes, as well as cherries, apricots, dates.
My point was that dried fruit is loaded with sugar, either naturally occurring or added. I guess the point I was trying to make was a fail.2 -
My grandmother made sugar sandwiches for us in the early 1950s. She also made sugar nipples for my siblings when they were teething: Wrap sugar in cloth, tie it off, dip in milk, and let the kid suck on it (hard core old timers would dip them in whiskey). Of course, she also liked lard sandwiches so she wasn't the best to emulate dietwise. She made a hell of a pie, though.5
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Which dried fruits?
Dried Fruits for me means raisins, currants, prunes, as well as cherries, apricots, dates.
My point was that dried fruit is loaded with sugar, either naturally occurring or added. I guess the point I was trying to make was a fail.
Natural fresh fruits are apparently full of sugar too. But I can relate to the posts at the beginning about growing up on sugar. We didn't have sugar sandwiches, but we had sugar water when my parents couldn't afford to buy nice juices or even drink crystals or concentrates to make drinks at home. Now the new craze is sipping water all day long, and we're learning we should just simply have drank that water plain without adding sugar back then.1
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