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Intermittent fasting- just an acceptable way of starving yourself?
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I just love 16:8. And if it's wrong I don't want to be right. Just today I was sharing with friends how much more I'm enjoying food because of it. Personally, eating throughout the day leads me to experience increased hunger throughout the day, and IF feels like what my body actually wants, so it's all win for me. I've no doubt it's not for everyone.. But I can assure anyone who is concerned, I'm not starving lol.5
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I.F. actually has proven medical benefits, along with weight loss benefits. Even fasting for longer has medical benefits. Obviously, anyone with a medical disorder, or addiction, will use excuses to cover their tracks. But that's not the majority of I.F. practitioners.
Since we must cut calories to lose weight, I.F. can be used in place of daily restriction. Most people eat less within their eating window, than unrestricted eating.
Aside from the weight loss benefits, I.F. has been proven to increase fat oxidation, increase insulin sensitivity, and inhibit the occurrences of age associated diseases.
Plus, if you are practicing the Keto Diet, I.F. boosts your production of ketones.
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For me, fasting is too disruptive to my psyche. I eat regularly, meet my daily calorie count and exercise 4 days a week. Lost 18 lbs in 2.5 months and didn’t feel deprived. I’ve heard intermediate fasting works for many people, but if I’m getting the same results, I rather snack and enjoy some food throughout the day. Also health and fitness should never feel like a punishment. I never want to feel I’m in some fad routine either. Health and fitness is a pretty simple concept and time proven. Why complicate it!
I'm with you. I eat regularly or my family and/or coworkers will begin force feeding me. Low blood sugar makes my naturally sweet, lovable personality change into a raging mess. And don't let me get behind the wheel of a car!! I love my breakfast and wake up hungry enough to eat a bear and my oldest son takes after me. Neither of us are after-dinner snackers. My daughter and youngest son, however, can't face breakfast and usually don't eat until noon, then eat lunch and dinner and will snack until bedtime.
I think this is yet another example of, "one size does not fit all."8 -
andrewbrownketo wrote: »I.F. actually has proven medical benefits, along with weight loss benefits. Even fasting for longer has medical benefits...
Aside from the weight loss benefits, I.F. has been proven to increase fat oxidation, increase insulin sensitivity, and inhibit the occurrences of age associated diseases.
Could you point at those studies please, I'd be interested to read that.10 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »andrewbrownketo wrote: »I.F. actually has proven medical benefits, along with weight loss benefits. Even fasting for longer has medical benefits...
Aside from the weight loss benefits, I.F. has been proven to increase fat oxidation, increase insulin sensitivity, and inhibit the occurrences of age associated diseases.
Could you point at those studies please, I'd be interested to read that.
I don't know anything about so called "health" benefits, but I have been playing around with a 14/10 time restricted window and it does seem to have some effect on appetite, so far. My leptin and ghelin is all messed up. Maybe this will help? who knows!?!?0 -
andrewbrownketo wrote: »I.F. actually has proven medical benefits, along with weight loss benefits. Even fasting for longer has medical benefits. Obviously, anyone with a medical disorder, or addiction, will use excuses to cover their tracks. But that's not the majority of I.F. practitioners.
Since we must cut calories to lose weight, I.F. can be used in place of daily restriction. Most people eat less within their eating window, than unrestricted eating.
Aside from the weight loss benefits, I.F. has been proven to increase fat oxidation, increase insulin sensitivity, and inhibit the occurrences of age associated diseases.
Plus, if you are practicing the Keto Diet, I.F. boosts your production of ketones.
I have seen people blow through thousands of calories in less than 4 hours! so calorie counting still needs to be in place IMHO.5 -
I don't eat until 2pm as I'm not hungry in the morning. At 220ish lb losing at a rate of 0.5-1lb a week I'm certainly not starving myself5
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i like to eat late night and dont like to eat in the morning. Meal times are a human creation....I choose to eat how i wanna eat not how im told i should be eating. That in no way means im starving myself. I love food. I love food so much that this way of eating keeps my calories in check. Theres nothing wrong to not eating when im told lol trust me im not starving1
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I’ve noticed a few people saying that they are combining different types of IF diet (doing 5:2 and 16:8 for example) or limiting their eating window to a very short time. I like IF but part of me is uneasy about the way it makes skipping meals acceptable. What we reckon? Is IF just a way of people disguising disordered eating as an acceptable diet?
Not sure about "acceptable". To me it's a way with a "brand name", just like people get all carried away with the actual brands of the clothing and shoes they wear nowadays.2 -
Do what makes you happy. You are more likely to be able to stick to it. As long as you eat the correct balance of calories it doesn’t matter when you eat or even what you eat when it comes to weight loss. I eat most my calories at night as it's when I am most hungry.2
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I don't like IF at all , I prefer to distribute my meals on the day, but if it works for someone, cool.2
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I’ve noticed a few people saying that they are combining different types of IF diet (doing 5:2 and 16:8 for example) or limiting their eating window to a very short time. I like IF but part of me is uneasy about the way it makes skipping meals acceptable. What we reckon? Is IF just a way of people disguising disordered eating as an acceptable diet? [/
you don’t skip a meal at all!! with IF you just push your regular eating into an 8 hour window, rather than a 12. It’s simple. No skipping meals, no starving yourself, you are eating the same amount of calories that you usually eat, but condensing it into 8 hours. I don’t see how that is skipping a meal or starving yourself. I just started 16:8 and I am eating the exact same amount of calories I did before, just pushing my breakfast later in the day and stopping earlier. I eat breakfast at 10:30 rather than 7:30, and I have dinner at 6:30 rather than 8:30. I still get my breakfast, lunch, dinner, and two snacks, nothing within that has changed.5 -
Why do you think it's disordered? Several of the people who do it on here have said they never ate breakfast before IF became a fad. Some people can't eat early or they'll be ill, or they may be tempted to graze/overeat all day. And some just prefer to eat more calories later. If they're getting adequate calories/nutrition, there's nothing wrong.
Agreed!
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andrewbrownketo wrote: »I.F. actually has proven medical benefits, along with weight loss benefits. Even fasting for longer has medical benefits. Obviously, anyone with a medical disorder, or addiction, will use excuses to cover their tracks. But that's not the majority of I.F. practitioners.
Since we must cut calories to lose weight, I.F. can be used in place of daily restriction. Most people eat less within their eating window, than unrestricted eating.
Aside from the weight loss benefits, I.F. has been proven to increase fat oxidation, increase insulin sensitivity, and inhibit the occurrences of age associated diseases.
Plus, if you are practicing the Keto Diet, I.F. boosts your production of ketones.
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psychod787 wrote: »andrewbrownketo wrote: »I.F. actually has proven medical benefits, along with weight loss benefits. Even fasting for longer has medical benefits. Obviously, anyone with a medical disorder, or addiction, will use excuses to cover their tracks. But that's not the majority of I.F. practitioners.
Since we must cut calories to lose weight, I.F. can be used in place of daily restriction. Most people eat less within their eating window, than unrestricted eating.
Aside from the weight loss benefits, I.F. has been proven to increase fat oxidation, increase insulin sensitivity, and inhibit the occurrences of age associated diseases.
Plus, if you are practicing the Keto Diet, I.F. boosts your production of ketones.
I have seen people blow through thousands of calories in less than 4 hours! so calorie counting still needs to be in place IMHO.
Sit me down at an all you can eat sushi bar and I'll show you someone who can blow through thousands of calories in less than one hour! 1,936 calories (rough logging) at one in 50 minutes last Wednesday, and I wasn't even trying hard.21 -
I think that the 16:8 is perfectly acceptable. They're still getting in the same amount of calories. And there's no true "rule" to when you have start your fast. Some do better if they work it so that they still have breakfast at a normal time, they just stop eating earlier in the evening that they may have before they did IF.0
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Skipping breakfast is totally normal, lots of people do it. It’s not “starving yourself”3
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It's a tactic to manage appetite signals. Just as with any other tactic it has the potential to be effective if implemented correctly.
It isn't a one sized fits all solution, but if it works for you...go with it. I do something like this, but it's more eating light meals at breakfast and lunch as this is my active time and a full stomach inhibits performance. Night time is my cool down and relax time and where I eat ~70% of my daily caloric intake.1 -
Calorie counting is also a way of starving yourself. Starving from food is how you get your body to use fat stores for energy. Its only a problem if you have a distorted body image or develop nutritional deficiencies from poor choices.16
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anastasiadietitian wrote: »Calorie counting is also a way of starving yourself. Starving from food is how you get your body to use fat stores for energy. Its only a problem if you have a distorted body image or develop nutritional deficiencies from poor choices.
you arent starving yourself counting calories. you eat less than your body burns so yes you lose weight. the only way you would be starving yourself counting calories is if you are eating calories way below your BMR(or not eating at all,skipping days,etc) and those with a lot of weight to lose can do it for a short time although I dont recommend that unless under the care and monitoring of a doctor.10
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