Weight loss help
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I wasn’t sure which category to post in but I have a question regarding my daughter. My daughter is an athlete and last year she had an injury that caused her to have to pull back quite a bit for some time and when she was released she had to do so slowly. Because of the extreme decrease in activity she had gained a little bit of weight. Well she has been back at her full sport for a while now, although she has to take a few days a weeks to rest her body. Basically 7 days a week of activity down to 4 or 5 in order to prevent reoccurrence of the injury. My daughter eats really heathy and obviously exercises regularly but the weight won’t budge...It is now jeopardizing her position in her sport. What would cause a lack of weight loss when someone is eating right and exercising regularly? She is two weeks from trying out for the next season and had been needing to drop like 11lbs. She is now worried that she won’t be able to do what she loves. Any advice?
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Understand that she is eating more calories than she needs to in order to lose weight. Weight loss comes from eating less than you burn. Eating right, while a good idea, is not enough to lose weight if she is not eating at a deficit.
Also understand that the process is slower than we like. She won't be able to drop 11 lbs in a couple of weeks in a healthy fashion.8 -
She went from being highly active with her sport to partial active. When we do not adjust our daily calories need to maintain weight to compensate for the decrease in activity/exercise we will gain weight. To lose the weight she gained, she needs to be in a calorie deficit.
Are you/she working using MFP tools to lose weight now? Using a food scale, logging all food/beverages that contain calories?2 -
We have been logging in what she eats in mfp and food wise she is where she is supposed to be. She only drinks water no soda. To explain a little more she does competitive cheer. She was a flyer and a tumbler who between privates, classes and practice was in the gym every day of the week. Due to all the back extension she fractured her spine. So she had to stop tumbling for a few months and do pt. So from Feb to May last year she only flew. Starting in May last year she slowly started tumbling again and was up to four or five days tumbling/flying a week. She was taken out of flying end of summer due to her size.this really was a huge blow so she lost a lot of motivation. Well for the last several months she has been running an hour a day on the treadmill so she can still get exercise daily without extending her back on top of the days a week she’s in the gym. Just don’t understand why the weight is not moving. She is doing some form of exercise daily and eating within what she’s supposed too. She wants to fly again or will probably no longer be able to compete as she can’t base as its not good for her to lift and she still is small.1
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tiffanylazo1 wrote: »We have been logging in what she eats in mfp and food wise she is where she is supposed to be. She only drinks water no soda. To explain a little more she does competitive cheer. She was a flyer and a tumbler who between privates, classes and practice was in the gym every day of the week. Due to all the back extension she fractured her spine. So she had to stop tumbling for a few months and do pt. So from Feb to May last year she only flew. Starting in May last year she slowly started tumbling again and was up to four or five days tumbling/flying a week. She was taken out of flying end of summer due to her size.this really was a huge blow so she lost a lot of motivation. Well for the last several months she has been running an hour a day on the treadmill so she can still get exercise daily without extending her back on top of the days a week she’s in the gym. Just don’t understand why the weight is not moving. She is doing some form of exercise daily and eating within what she’s supposed too. She wants to fly again or will probably no longer be able to compete as she can’t base as its not good for her to lift and she still is small.
How long have you been logging in MFP?
Using a food scale to weight all food/beverages i.e. home cooked meals, condiments, everything that has calories?
How many pounds per week did you set her up to lose each week and how many total does she need to lose?
Is she eating back exercise calories?
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We have been using mfp a few months. I knew it was great because I used it a few years ago to drop 40lbs. Back in January we were hoping for her to loose 12lbs in 4.5 months. So we had plenty of time. Well she would drop like a pound and then gain it back. She is stuck at the same weight basically even adding in the extra exercise. She doesn’t exceed what mfp says she should be at food wise.0
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barring any medical condition- which, while possible, is rare .... she is eating more than either of you think. whether its from overestimated workout burns, inaccurate logging, or eating food that is not logged .....6
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tiffanylazo1 wrote: »We have been using mfp a few months. I knew it was great because I used it a few years ago to drop 40lbs. Back in January we were hoping for her to loose 12lbs in 4.5 months. So we had plenty of time. Well she would drop like a pound and then gain it back. She is stuck at the same weight basically even adding in the extra exercise. She doesn’t exceed what mfp says she should be at food wise.
If she is fluctuating the same pounds for this length of time she is not in a calorie deficit to lose weight. Something is setup wrong as in her stats in MFP, you/she is not weighing food, you/she is not logging accurately from the food database, etc.0 -
Could she be eating too little?19
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tiffanylazo1 wrote: »Could she be eating too little?
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As of now she is eating 1200-1400 a day in calories. Keeping an eye on carbs, sodium, fat, and sugar. She is burning at least 500 a day in the treadmill alone not counting practices and privates where sometimes she tumbles for two hours in a day.1
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Our treadmill tracks the calories unless it’s off or something0
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tiffanylazo1 wrote: »Our treadmill tracks the calories unless it’s off or something
All calorie burns from cardio machines, activity trackers, etc. etc. are estimations and not exacts. If she is not losing weight she is eating too much through poor looging and/or eating too many exercise calories back.8 -
tiffanylazo1 wrote: »Our treadmill tracks the calories unless it’s off or something
Usually treadmill (or any exercise equipment) calorie counts aren't always accurate. The closest you could get to an accurate count would be if she would use a heart rate monitor.0 -
tiffanylazo1 wrote: »As of now she is eating 1200-1400 a day in calories. Keeping an eye on carbs, sodium, fat, and sugar. She is burning at least 500 a day in the treadmill alone not counting practices and privates where sometimes she tumbles for two hours in a day.
Are you/she weighing all of her intake using a food scale?0 -
We do measure things out like almond milk, vegan butter, cereal, veggies etc with measuring cups and spoons. I do not have a scale so maybe that’s the issue. What sort of things do you use a scale for? She does not eat meat.0
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What is the best kind of scale to get?0
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tiffanylazo1 wrote: »We do measure things out like almond milk, vegan butter, cereal, veggies etc with measuring cups and spoons. I do not have a scale so maybe that’s the issue. What sort of things do you use a scale for? She does not eat meat.
Weigh everything she eats and drinks that contains calories. This includes if you make homemade meals, condiments, salad dressing, pads of butter, etc.
There is not much wiggle room to be off xxx calories a day and still be in a deficit at the end of the day/week to lose weight.3 -
She's running an hour a day plus doing 2 hours of practice and only eating 1,200-1,400?
Something is off here. Either there are inadvertent errors in her logging (which can come from using measuring cups or incorrect database entries) or she's actually eating more and not logging it.
Someone that active eating 1,200-1,400 calories a day should be losing weight.4 -
You need a digital kitchen scale. You can find them online or in stores. You don't need anything expensive but to get accurate counts measuring by weight is the way to go.0
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Thank you I will get a scale and try that. I seemed to do good with mine so I figured I was being pretty accurate with hers1
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I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.23
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How old is your daughter? Is she still growing?3
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I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.
If it is based on the Harris Benedict equation, it assumes all calories burned, not just ones from non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
Just on a practical level, it's important not to track the calories burned from exercise, because it's so extremely inaccurate. You can ASSUME 500 calories burned, but for a young active girl, it could be more like 200. Estimating calorie burn outside of a laboratory is an extremely blunt tool for food planning.22 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.
If it is based on the Harris Benedict equation, it assumes all calories burned, not just ones from non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
Just on a practical level, it's important not to track the calories burned from exercise, because it's so extremely inaccurate. You can ASSUME 500 calories burned, but for a young active girl, it could be more like 200. Estimating calorie burn outside of a laboratory is an extremely blunt tool for food planning.
You may want to get more familiar with how this particular site generates calorie goals before you give people advice. Many people do misunderstand it. MFP's calorie goals are based on NEAT and the intention is for you to log your intentional exercise and add those calories to your goal. It is true that the result is going to be an estimate, which is why you'll often see people here recommend starting with a more conservative estimate for calories burnt (not, for example, just taking a generic read from a treadmill), paying attention to real life results, and making adjustments as necessary.
In any event, it appears this is a non-issue. If OP's daughter is logging 1,200-1,400 calories a day, then it doesn't appear she is "eating back" her activity adjustments for her training or her treadmill sessions. I suspect the issue is logging accuracy and she's accidentally eating more than she thinks she is, but if a young woman was actually eating 1,200-1,400 calories a day, running regularly, and engaged in multi-hour training sessions, following your advice to ignore calories burnt through exercise could actually be dangerous and certainly be damaging to her performance in her sport.18 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.
If it is based on the Harris Benedict equation, it assumes all calories burned, not just ones from non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
It's not based on the H-B equation for a total calculation. The basic setting is a 1.2 activity factor, which is sedentary. So while it may *consider* H-B, it does *not* consider exercise in that determined factor.
MFP uses NEAT, not TDEE, and thus makes no judgments on calorie expenditure beyond daily non-exercise activity.
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My daughter is almost 15 and her height has remained the same for over a year now and she has had her periods for over a year now as well. The doctors think she is at her adult height. I am sure the calculations have to be wrong somewhere. I just can’t figure out where as she really eats the same things almost every day and exercises regularly. For example today she ran and hour on the treadmill and has a 2 hour practice this evening. She had the same thing yesterday.0
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Are you *sure* that she is not eating things that you don't know about?
You've put her on a fairly restrictive diet for an active, growing teen. I know I certainly snuck food at that age, and I wouldn't be surprised if she were doing the same.11 -
tiffanylazo1 wrote: »My daughter is almost 15 and her height has remained the same for over a year now and she has had her periods for over a year now as well. The doctors think she is at her adult height. I am sure the calculations have to be wrong somewhere. I just can’t figure out where as she really eats the same things almost every day and exercises regularly. For example today she ran and hour on the treadmill and has a 2 hour practice this evening. She had the same thing yesterday.
Being 15 and weight gain at her age is completely normal, she is still developing in all areas. Doctors *thinking she is at her adult height would be something I hold as a big 'IF'.
What are her stats... current weight and height?4
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