Cutting and going up in weight
Juice_boi
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I started cutting about 2 1/2 months ago and I decided to keep going up in weight rather than reps and I found that it’s helped me lose more weight faster I’ve lost a total of 20 lbs is this just me or does this work for anyone else?
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It’s all about energy expenditure, while lifting heavy will help retain muscle and strength in a deficit, it is hard to build muscle in a deficit. The reason I say this, is because muscle takes more calories to maintain leading to an increase in BMR, but that would be hard to achieve in a deficit unless you are a newbie or on anabolic compounds. It’s most likely you increased your tdee in some way. When I start cutting I do a power building kind of program. Doing my compounds heavy, then hypertrophy for accessory work1
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Your body seems like it responds better to higher weights. Keep at it. Some state that higher reps into hypertrophic training correlates to physical muscle growth. But I know for me, I noticed physical and strength growth when it comes to less reps and more weight. But that’s just me. If you can cut down while lifting heavy, that’s a good combo.1
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What do you mean go up in weight, you mean with your lifts? From my understanding you should keep aiming to add strength, or at least maintain strength during a cut. Sometimes I add reps but typically I aim for adding weight first for progression. Unless you are weeks away from a bodybuilding competition where I would imagine strength starts to go down.
If you lost 20lbs it is because you were in a calorie deficit. Exercise, including lifting, can add to that but whatever the cause it was burning more than your intake.3 -
pinggolfer96 wrote: »It’s all about energy expenditure, while lifting heavy will help retain muscle and strength in a deficit, it is hard to build muscle in a deficit. The reason I say this, is because muscle takes more calories to maintain leading to an increase in BMR, but that would be hard to achieve in a deficit unless you are a newbie or on anabolic compounds. It’s most likely you increased your tdee in some way. When I start cutting I do a power building kind of program. Doing my compounds heavy, then hypertrophy for accessory work
Look at the OP's user name.7 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »pinggolfer96 wrote: »It’s all about energy expenditure, while lifting heavy will help retain muscle and strength in a deficit, it is hard to build muscle in a deficit. The reason I say this, is because muscle takes more calories to maintain leading to an increase in BMR, but that would be hard to achieve in a deficit unless you are a newbie or on anabolic compounds. It’s most likely you increased your tdee in some way. When I start cutting I do a power building kind of program. Doing my compounds heavy, then hypertrophy for accessory work
Look at the OP's user name.
Yep. Steroids/PEDs change the playing field and the rules of the game.2 -
I'm on a pretty robust TRT protocol and I suspect it was more than a little helpful in allowing me to retain the bulk of my gains during a pretty aggressive cut. However, nothing compares to an actual stack/cycle... or maybe OP just likes his Atlas Juice Master?
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Lol so no I’m not on any anabolics or PEDs my user name is just a play on my real name hugo which in Spanish sounds like juice. I started going heavier on my three main lifts and that’s when I noticed a difference; my squat went from 315 to 385, bench 225 to 275, and my DL went from 365 to 425. I hope to keep increasing these numbers I’m just scared to add more food to my diet due to the fact that I want to keep losing body fat. My fat % went down from 20 to 17% BF.2
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Lol so no I’m not on any anabolics or PEDs my user name is just a play on my real name hugo which in Spanish sounds like juice. I started going heavier on my three main lifts and that’s when I noticed a difference; my squat went from 315 to 385, bench 225 to 275, and my DL went from 365 to 425. I hope to keep increasing these numbers I’m just scared to add more food to my diet due to the fact that I want to keep losing body fat. My fat % went down from 20 to 17% BF.
Sorry, my bad!3 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Lol so no I’m not on any anabolics or PEDs my user name is just a play on my real name hugo which in Spanish sounds like juice. I started going heavier on my three main lifts and that’s when I noticed a difference; my squat went from 315 to 385, bench 225 to 275, and my DL went from 365 to 425. I hope to keep increasing these numbers I’m just scared to add more food to my diet due to the fact that I want to keep losing body fat. My fat % went down from 20 to 17% BF.
Sorry, my bad!
That's still a huge increase in numbers just from lifting heavier especially after losing close to 2.5lbs a week in the course of two months.
OP what program are you following/how did you add 180lbs to your total in 2 months while in a massive deficit? That is something that needs to be put into a study2 -
Well it was more like three months really and this is more of an estimate I was on deployment didn’t really have much time to write down the specifics but I did hit the weights a lot harder than I ever have before. My diet consisted of water, chicken, rice and black coffee grinds0
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Common misconception for doing volume/high reps for cutting...to a certain extent, it's wise to keep lifting heavy even during a cut (barring injury/strength loss).
Possibly OP just hasn't trained in extremely low rep ranges prior & is unaware of max lifts
(Not making any accusations of "that there cell tech" or "anabolic chicken"...drama is for high schoolers)1 -
Well it was more like three months really and this is more of an estimate I was on deployment didn’t really have much time to write down the specifics but I did hit the weights a lot harder than I ever have before. My diet consisted of water, chicken, rice and black coffee grinds
What why. You're starving yourself of so many things especially being in a cut and upping the intensity of your workouts.
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Well it was more like three months really and this is more of an estimate I was on deployment didn’t really have much time to write down the specifics but I did hit the weights a lot harder than I ever have before. My diet consisted of water, chicken, rice and black coffee grinds
What why. You're starving yourself of so many things especially being in a cut and upping the intensity of your workouts.
I'm wondering how backed up one gets without ingesting fiber and fat...0 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Well it was more like three months really and this is more of an estimate I was on deployment didn’t really have much time to write down the specifics but I did hit the weights a lot harder than I ever have before. My diet consisted of water, chicken, rice and black coffee grinds
What why. You're starving yourself of so many things especially being in a cut and upping the intensity of your workouts.
I'm wondering how backed up one gets without ingesting fiber and fat...
I didn't even think about that. Is that the first thing you thought of? "Dang that's a lot of protein and no fibre" haha. I won't make any speculations on here but wow. I just don't see how you have made such substantial progress in 3 months. I applaud you if it's all accurate and true. I've just never come close to that and I'm flabbergasted.1 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Well it was more like three months really and this is more of an estimate I was on deployment didn’t really have much time to write down the specifics but I did hit the weights a lot harder than I ever have before. My diet consisted of water, chicken, rice and black coffee grinds
What why. You're starving yourself of so many things especially being in a cut and upping the intensity of your workouts.
I'm wondering how backed up one gets without ingesting fiber and fat...
I didn't even think about that. Is that the first thing you thought of? "Dang that's a lot of protein and no fibre" haha. I won't make any speculations on here but wow. I just don't see how you have made such substantial progress in 3 months. I applaud you if it's all accurate and true. I've just never come close to that and I'm flabbergasted.
I have a very "healthy" digestive system...multiple times a day... so, yeah, first thought LOL2 -
Well I’ve seen guys do a lot more than me I’m not even near that level that those guys are at but yeah I usually just do about 3-4 sets of 3 reps or less until I reached my max for my mains plus other regular exercises and this was on my off time but on my on time we ran 3 miles every morning at 0500 for the first month then “high intensity workouts” about 3 times a day or “getting messed for stupid people” and I did eat broccoli and other greens but for the most part I ate what I said.0
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Are you asking if keeping the intensity on the bar and reducing volume on a cut works better for one?
I think so, because the heavy weight/compound lifts are effective for maintaining muscle mass while it's easier to stay in a deficit without super high volume workouts.3 -
Well I’ve seen guys do a lot more than me I’m not even near that level that those guys are at but yeah I usually just do about 3-4 sets of 3 reps or less until I reached my max for my mains plus other regular exercises and this was on my off time but on my on time we ran 3 miles every morning at 0500 for the first month then “high intensity workouts” about 3 times a day or “getting messed for stupid people” and I did eat broccoli and other greens but for the most part I ate what I said.
So you max out your main lifts every training session? Whilst In a deficit.. and have added over 150lbs to an already impressive total in 3 months. While training 3 times a day. Alright haha. So either you're the most genetically gifted young man on the planet. Or...
But yes I find that higher intensity is better for my cuts but time to recover becomes top priority. Your potential for injury skyrockets while in a large deficit1 -
Wow Lol like I said these are estimates I’m probly off by a lot on the starting point. And I’m not gifted I just put work in and don’t pussyfoot around. Like I said I’ve seen guys go way heavier in weight in less time than me. And stop hinting to something your such a creep, miss me with that weird s#%t2
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Wow Lol like I said these are estimates I’m probly off by a lot on the starting point. And I’m not gifted I just put work in and don’t pussyfoot around. Like I said I’ve seen guys go way heavier in weight in less time than me. And stop hinting to something your such a creep, miss me with that weird s#%t
Prob cause they're not in a deficit like you.....
I am confused though by your comments or goals.....no offense, it just sounds like you need to do some research on nutrition and programming.3
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