Vegan Bodybuilders - where you at?
dhanihk
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Any vegan bodybuilders around here? I’ve been vegan 2 years and just started lifting to gain, going well so far. Would love to get in touch with some other vegans putting on weight to share tips and keep motivated
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I'm a newbie vegan and weightlifter, bulking at the moment.0
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Silkysausage wrote: »I'm a newbie vegan and weightlifter, bulking at the moment.
Hey! Mind if I add you?
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Silkysausage wrote: »I'm a newbie vegan and weightlifter, bulking at the moment.
Hey! Mind if I add you?
Not at all, my diary is public.0 -
Eh, certainly possible. Not currently a vegan, but was lacto-vegan for a solid 4-5 years over a decade ago (had a more lean/"flat" look to go along with it). Mostly consumed a lot of peanut butter, yogurt, whey, & legumes for protein sources (just could not stomach it long term; felt better GI-wise with more dairy, eggs, meat/fish vs. nuts, seeds, & legumes). Was somewhat difficult to keep steady gains due to GI intolerance (even being still young/growing 18-23yo)
Note: vegans generally respond very well to creatine (if that's allowable for ethical/personal reasons)2 -
Keto_Vampire wrote: »Eh, certainly possible. Not currently a vegan, but was lacto-vegan for a solid 4-5 years over a decade ago (had a more lean/"flat" look to go along with it). Mostly consumed a lot of peanut butter, yogurt, whey, & legumes for protein sources (just could not stomach it long term; felt better GI-wise with more dairy, eggs, meat/fish vs. nuts, seeds, & legumes). Was somewhat difficult to keep steady gains due to GI intolerance (even being still young/growing 18-23yo)
Note: vegans generally respond very well to creatine (if that's allowable for ethical/personal reasons)
What does creatine do and what is it made from. Personal & ethical reasons...what do you mean by that?0 -
@Silkysausage
Look at examine.com for a comprehensive write up on creatine.
Meat contains creatine so that's why meat eaters may get less of a benefit from it as they will naturally have higher levels. That might explain why many people aren't good responders to creatine supplementation - if you are topped up already then you can't use more.
(It did nothing for me apart from upset my stomach.)
You would have to research if the synthetically produced creatine comes from sources that are compatible with being vegan.1 -
@Silkysausage
Look at examine.com for a comprehensive write up on creatine.
Meat contains creatine so that's why meat eaters may get less of a benefit from it as they will naturally have higher levels. That might explain why many people aren't good responders to creatine supplementation - if you are topped up already then you can't use more.
(It did nothing for me apart from upset my stomach.)
You would have to research if the synthetically produced creatine comes from sources that are compatible with being vegan.
Thanks, will take a look.0 -
@Silkysausage
They're all vegan so you should be fine. Creatine Monohydrate is manufactured synthetically for supplements.
Certainly the one I use from MP is certified Vegetarian, Vegan and Gluten Free.
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Stockholm_Andy wrote: »@Silkysausage
They're all vegan so you should be fine. Creatine Monohydrate is manufactured synthetically for supplements.
Certainly the one I use from MP is certified Vegetarian, Vegan and Gluten Free.
How does it help you personally, have you seen the benefits?
I can't have caffeine and IBS so concerned about any stimulant or stomach upsetting effects.
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Keto_Vampire wrote: »Eh, certainly possible. Not currently a vegan, but was lacto-vegan for a solid 4-5 years over a decade ago (had a more lean/"flat" look to go along with it). Mostly consumed a lot of peanut butter, yogurt, whey, & legumes for protein sources (just could not stomach it long term; felt better GI-wise with more dairy, eggs, meat/fish vs. nuts, seeds, & legumes). Was somewhat difficult to keep steady gains due to GI intolerance (even being still young/growing 18-23yo)
Note: vegans generally respond very well to creatine (if that's allowable for ethical/personal reasons)
Thanks for the tip I didn’t know that. Unfortunately creatine monohydrate kills my stomach.. heard it’s useful to try out other brands but definitely won’t continue it if I can’t find one!1 -
Silkysausage wrote: »Stockholm_Andy wrote: »@Silkysausage
They're all vegan so you should be fine. Creatine Monohydrate is manufactured synthetically for supplements.
Certainly the one I use from MP is certified Vegetarian, Vegan and Gluten Free.
How does it help you personally, have you seen the benefits?
I can't have caffeine and IBS so concerned about any stimulant or stomach upsetting effects.
Creatine isn't a stimulant so shouldn't effect your IBS the same way as caffine but some people say they get stomach cramps if taken with insufficient fluids. (I've never experienced this).
You absolutely don't need to supplement with Creatine in fact your body is producing right now as you read this.
Your body produces it to store phosphocreatine. Your body uses this as an emergency energy source to aid cell function during stress. (Such as when weight lifting). This effect causes strength increases after creatine supplementation and may also have some other beneficial effects.
However, the effects are relatively small, a large meta study suggested an 8% increase in strength and a 12% increase in power. In all honesty that too small for me to see in myself on a normal gym day.
That said Creatine is cheap and very easy to take (5g/day in my smoothie) and if it gave me an extra rep this morning on the bench or knocked a second off of my sled push then why not
It's one of the VERY few sups with any reliable data to back up its efficacy.1 -
Stockholm_Andy wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »Stockholm_Andy wrote: »@Silkysausage
They're all vegan so you should be fine. Creatine Monohydrate is manufactured synthetically for supplements.
Certainly the one I use from MP is certified Vegetarian, Vegan and Gluten Free.
How does it help you personally, have you seen the benefits?
I can't have caffeine and IBS so concerned about any stimulant or stomach upsetting effects.
Creatine isn't a stimulant so shouldn't effect your IBS the same way as caffine but some people say they get stomach cramps if taken with insufficient fluids. (I've never experienced this).
You absolutely don't need to supplement with Creatine in fact your body is producing right now as you read this.
Your body produces it to store phosphocreatine. Your body uses this as an emergency energy source to aid cell function during stress. (Such as when weight lifting). This effect causes strength increases after creatine supplementation and may also have some other beneficial effects.
However, the effects are relatively small, a large meta study suggested an 8% increase in strength and a 12% increase in power. In all honesty that too small for me to see in myself on a normal gym day.
That said Creatine is cheap and very easy to take (5g/day in my smoothie) and if it gave me an extra rep this morning on the bench or knocked a second off of my sled push then why not
It's one of the VERY few sups with any reliable data to back up its efficacy.
Well, anything that can help as I also have my second bout of Post Viral Fatigue and have varying days of strength.1 -
For the vegans, what protein powders are you using?1
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Not vegan, but I’m primarily plant based and tried most, of not all brands. Pescience is by far the best tatsting vegan protein I’ve ever had1
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Marlahgaspard33 wrote: »For the vegans, what protein powders are you using?
Pure brand Pea Protein Isolate in 2 mixed frozen berry banana soy milk smoothies a day.0 -
I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!0
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staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.1 -
Silkysausage wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.
I tend to keep it to 3 protein shakes a week or so, either as a postworkout snack or instead of dessert. My favourite is chocolate, frozen cherries, and almond milk. I was finishing up my whey one, so in the market for a new one that's plant-based and mixes well.
Just ate a roasted cauliflower, pomegranate seeds, soy meatballs, and nutritional yeast sauce. Huge plate of food for 600 calories and 46g protein, awh yeah.1 -
staticsplit wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.
I tend to keep it to 3 protein shakes a week or so, either as a postworkout snack or instead of dessert. My favourite is chocolate, frozen cherries, and almond milk. I was finishing up my whey one, so in the market for a new one that's plant-based and mixes well.
Just ate a roasted cauliflower, pomegranate seeds, soy meatballs, and nutritional yeast sauce. Huge plate of food for 600 calories and 46g protein, awh yeah.
No tips needed then by the sound of it!0 -
Silkysausage wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.
Protein powder is food.
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pinggolfer96 wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.
Protein powder is food.
Yes but single plant based varieties will never be a complete food unless two or more are mixed together.1 -
Silkysausage wrote: »pinggolfer96 wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.
Protein powder is food.
Yes but single plant based varieties will never be a complete food unless two or more are mixed together.
I think you mean complete protein0 -
pinggolfer96 wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »pinggolfer96 wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »I'm not vegan but try to eat plant-based as default. I am a little lower on protein than I'd like, so following for tips/best protein powders etc. I've been weight lifting pretty regularly since January and love it!
Don't rely on supplements if you can, it's best to get complete proteins from food. Tofu, black beans, nut burgers, seitan and more.
Protein powder is food.
Yes but single plant based varieties will never be a complete food unless two or more are mixed together.
I think you mean complete protein
Sure, protein is in food though yes? Let's not split hairs0 -
There you go woo'er, have a read dear
http://www.idealshape.com/blog/complete-vs-incomplete-proteins/0 -
Silkysausage wrote: »There you go woo'er, have a read dear
http://www.idealshape.com/blog/complete-vs-incomplete-proteins/
But someone using protein shakes to get some of their protein could also be eating other protein containing foods and consuming a variety of animo acids. I sometimes eat protein powder and I track my overall amino acids on another site -- I'm never below 100% for each essential amino acid and that's with no particular effort.
Avoiding protein powder simply because it isn't a complete protein doesn't make sense -- black beans, seitan, and nuts aren't complete proteins either but they're able to help meet our needs when we eat a reasonable variety of foods. Same with protein powder.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »There you go woo'er, have a read dear
http://www.idealshape.com/blog/complete-vs-incomplete-proteins/
But someone using protein shakes to get some of their protein could also be eating other protein containing foods and consuming a variety of animo acids. I sometimes eat protein powder and I track my overall amino acids on another site -- I'm never below 100% for each essential amino acid and that's with no particular effort.
Avoiding protein powder simply because it isn't a complete protein doesn't make sense -- black beans, seitan, and nuts aren't complete proteins either but they're able to help meet our needs when we eat a reasonable variety of foods. Same with protein powder.
I didn't say the word avoid0 -
Silkysausage wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »There you go woo'er, have a read dear
http://www.idealshape.com/blog/complete-vs-incomplete-proteins/
But someone using protein shakes to get some of their protein could also be eating other protein containing foods and consuming a variety of animo acids. I sometimes eat protein powder and I track my overall amino acids on another site -- I'm never below 100% for each essential amino acid and that's with no particular effort.
Avoiding protein powder simply because it isn't a complete protein doesn't make sense -- black beans, seitan, and nuts aren't complete proteins either but they're able to help meet our needs when we eat a reasonable variety of foods. Same with protein powder.
I didn't say the word avoid
I think it's perfectly okay for a vegan who is eating a variety of foods to rely on protein powder as one source of protein. It's just a type of food. From your comments above, it seems like you disagreed with that but I may have misunderstood. It's no different than relying on, say, black beans, for a portion of your protein.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Silkysausage wrote: »There you go woo'er, have a read dear
http://www.idealshape.com/blog/complete-vs-incomplete-proteins/
But someone using protein shakes to get some of their protein could also be eating other protein containing foods and consuming a variety of animo acids. I sometimes eat protein powder and I track my overall amino acids on another site -- I'm never below 100% for each essential amino acid and that's with no particular effort.
Avoiding protein powder simply because it isn't a complete protein doesn't make sense -- black beans, seitan, and nuts aren't complete proteins either but they're able to help meet our needs when we eat a reasonable variety of foods. Same with protein powder.
I didn't say the word avoid
I think it's perfectly okay for a vegan who is eating a variety of foods to rely on protein powder as one source of protein. It's just a type of food. From your comments above, it seems like you disagreed with that but I may have misunderstood. It's no different than relying on, say, black beans, for a portion of your protein.
Well, it's good that there are all forms to choose from.0
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