A MESSAGE FOR ANYONE TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT ESPECIALLY THE NEWBIES!!!
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Lets not forget that mfp expects you to add back in your exercise calories to your goal. Most people are used to exercising to create the deficit not have the deficite already included. So 1200 bare minumum after exercise might be 15 to 1600 or more.9
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So basically you started beating your drums over information that this forum gives out on a regular basis... eat enough to lose at a healthy rate while maintaining a deficit. The rest of it is faulty conclusions and information specific to you.16
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Lola_Mercury wrote: »
IF YOURE DOING EVERYTHING TO LOSE WEIGHT AND ITS NOT WORKING, OR YOU FEEL EXHAUSTED AND STARVING AND LOSING WEIGHT AT A SNAILS PACE, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU EAT MORE!!!
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If you’re doing “everything” to lose weight and it’s not working, you’re not eating as little as you think. In which case, the last thing I would recommend is eating more. Your body doesn’t hold onto fat if you’re eating in a deficit, no matter how small or large it is. The lack of progress can be directly attributed to logging inaccuracies.
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Lola_Mercury wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Lola_Mercury wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »MFP doesn't usually give a 1,200 calorie goal. If you're getting that as your goal, it's often because you have deliberately chosen an aggressive weight loss goal (say, 2 pounds per week) without having a large amount of weight to lose.
Choose reasonable goal for pounds per week to lose, you'll get a reasonable number of calories to eat.
This. MFP bases the calorie goal on what the *person* inputs. If you tell it you want to lose 2 pounds a week, you're going to get a 1200 goal if it's an unrealistic expectation. And for most people, that *is* an unrealistic expectation.
Unless you're short and petite, that 1200 goal is *entirely* on the user.
I agree it is entirely on the user. I just see a lot of pressure on people to stick within 1200 calorie range and shame for going over it, and I want people to know it is good to go over.
Out of curiosity, are you talking about pressure and shame to stick to 1200 calories here on the boards (which I haven't seen much of) or in society in general?
I see it a lot on here actually. When people say theyre not losing on 1200 calories, others respond "You HAVE to lose on 1200 you MUST be doing something WRONG youre probably EATING MORE than you think and that's why youre not losing weight. Get a food scale and track every single morsel you put in your mouth"
I've seen it several times
Well, sure. Because if you're not small and petite, and you're *not* losing on 1200, then 9/10 times you're not tracking and weighing/measuring correctly.
It's not shaming the person for eating 1200 calories or more. It's pointing out that the math isn't lining up, and getting rid of the variable of poor tracking or weighing helps clear that one up.
So yeah. If you're not losing on 1200 calories, you're doing something wrong. But that's not at all the same as saying that you must eat 1200 calories to lose.19 -
I see it a lot on here actually. When people say theyre not losing on 1200 calories, others respond "You HAVE to lose on 1200 you MUST be doing something WRONG youre probably EATING MORE than you think and that's why youre not losing weight. Get a food scale and track every single morsel you put in your mouth"
I've seen it several times
I’m confused... are you arguing that this is untrue...?0 -
I’m confused... are you arguing that this is untrue...?
I think they are arguing for the reverse of how doctors diagnose. Instead of starting with the common afflictions like you have the flu take this and see if it works..they advocate jumping right to its an inoperable brain tumor sorry dude.6 -
I appreciated the message the OP was trying to convey.
And I also enjoyed all the resulting snark. Thanks for the entertainment! Feel free to now smack me down or insult my children. Lol18 -
I see it a lot on here actually. When people say theyre not losing on 1200 calories, others respond "You HAVE to lose on 1200 you MUST be doing something WRONG youre probably EATING MORE than you think and that's why youre not losing weight. Get a food scale and track every single morsel you put in your mouth"
I've seen it several times
I’m confused... are you arguing that this is untrue...?
She's not arguing the facts, but rather appears to have the facts loaded up with baggage that she (as humans do) is projecting onto the conversation every time she sees it. Instead of hearing "it's not as bad as it seems, your math and technique need tweaking" she hears "you are a failure as a human being because losing weight makes you virtuous and you can't even do that right, get a scale you idiot."13 -
I appreciated the message the OP was trying to convey.
And I also enjoyed all the resulting snark. Thanks for the entertainment! Feel free to now smack me down or insult my children. Lol
You don't think it is possible she insulted people who are losing weight at the appropriate 1200ish calorie mark for being stupid for not eating more?
If a 300ish pound person were eating 2400ish hundred calories and not losing weight would the same advice apply? Eat more.
What is the science behind fat "clinging" to you?
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janejellyroll wrote: »MFP doesn't usually give a 1,200 calorie goal. If you're getting that as your goal, it's often because you have deliberately chosen an aggressive weight loss goal (say, 2 pounds per week) without having a large amount of weight to lose.
Choose reasonable goal for pounds per week to lose, you'll get a reasonable number of calories to eat.
Is that true? I am 5'5" 175 lbs with a 1 lb/ week goal, lightly active and i have a 1270 goal. I usually get a couple hundred extra for steps, but if i don't move it docks calories ( no lower than 1200).
I worry I am going to get over hungry and binge, but so far i can stay close to the target without getting very hungry. My logging is not perfect but i am losing 11/2-2 calories/week.
I Don't understand the OP, that you lose when you eat more calories. I just think you can be reasonable and still get 1200 calories as a goal
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1,500 calories would be maintenance for me. I need to eat 1,200 calories or lower to lose weight (and even then it’s very tough). I’m almost 46 and 5’4 and weigh 132. I have a desk job but workout 6 days a week. It gets very hard the older you get. I don’t think this is accurate to say we all need to eat more. I’ve tried eating more and it didn’t work.5
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I appreciated the message the OP was trying to convey.
And I also enjoyed all the resulting snark. Thanks for the entertainment! Feel free to now smack me down or insult my children. Lol
You don't think it is possible she insulted people who are losing weight at the appropriate 1200ish calorie mark for being stupid for not eating more?
If a 300ish pound person were eating 2400ish hundred calories and not losing weight would the same advice apply? Eat more.
What is the science behind fat "clinging" to your?
More likely than me not caring, it’s a matter of not taking random internet people’s comments to heart. Jumping on her for her opinion is that exact thing people are doing to her.
Thus my entertainment remark.
It’s really not that hard to comprehend.12 -
More likely than me not caring, it’s a matter of not taking random internet people’s comments to heart. Jumping on her for her opinion is that exact thing people are doing to her.
Thus my entertainment remark.
It’s really not that hard to comprehend.
You must not have read the same OP that I did because I didn't see opinions I saw instructions on how to lose weight.
You might be new to the internet but if you make wild assertions as statements of fact you should expect some blowback. It has only been that way forever.
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Is that true? I am 5'5" 175 lbs with a 1 lb/ week goal, lightly active and i have a 1270 goal. I usually get a couple hundred extra for steps, but if i don't move it docks calories ( no lower than 1200).
I worry I am going to get over hungry and binge, but so far i can stay close to the target without getting very hungry. My logging is not perfect but i am losing 11/2-2 calories/week.
I Don't understand the OP, that you lose when you eat more calories. I just think you can be reasonable and still get 1200 calories as a goal
Hi, Lori! Something is "off" if you put in for a 1 lb loss and are losing 1.5-2 lbs a week (I think that is what you mean). If it is working for you, that's great--if you aren't too hungry and have enough energy. Otherwise, it looks like you could increase your base calories and lose 1 lb week. Maybe you are more active than you think, or than MFP thinks
In any case, you are clearly creating a deficit of more than 3500 cal/week at your rate of loss. Good job and good luck!
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Is that true? I am 5'5" 175 lbs with a 1 lb/ week goal, lightly active and i have a 1270 goal. I usually get a couple hundred extra for steps, but if i don't move it docks calories ( no lower than 1200).
I worry I am going to get over hungry and binge, but so far i can stay close to the target without getting very hungry. My logging is not perfect but i am losing 11/2-2 calories/week.
I Don't understand the OP, that you lose when you eat more calories. I just think you can be reasonable and still get 1200 calories as a goal
Hi, Lori! Something is "off" if you put in for a 1 lb loss and are losing 1.5-2 lbs a week (I think that is what you mean). If it is working for you, that's great--if you aren't too hungry and have enough energy. Otherwise, it looks like you could increase your base calories and lose 1 lb week. Maybe you are more active than you think, or than MFP thinks In any case, you are clearly creating a deficit of more than 3500 cal/week at your rate of loss. Good job and good luck!
Thank you. I do have days when i go under, but i was thinking i was forgetting to log something or underestimating. I feel fine.3 -
I was 5'4" sedentary 40 year old 179 lb woman when I started using MFP. I was given a starting calorie goal of 1,340 to lose 1 lb a week. I lost 25 lbs in about 6 months. MFP did not give me the 1,200 goal until I was getting close to a healthy weight.
Generally, people should not start with the absolute minimum recommended calories and many people should be able to eat more than 1,200 and lose just fine. 1,200 is appropriate for some people.
People who say they are not losing on 1,200 calories should check the accuracy of their logging or get to a doctor.6 -
I wanted my weight loss to be relatively painless and, with 114lbs to a healthy BMI, I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. I think the best decision I made was choosing to lose 1lb, week even though 2lbs would have been safe at the beginning. By the time I had to adjust my calories, I'd learned through trial and error how to make healthy, satisfying choices and still have room for a modest treat or dessert.
I'm now closing on the last 20lbs and losing 1/2lb a week on 1400 calories. (Actually losing on a bit more; 1400 is my sedentary target, but exercise lets me increase that.) And it's been a lot easier than my earlier attempts which often WERE 1200 or so.14 -
1,500 calories would be maintenance for me. I need to eat 1,200 calories or lower to lose weight (and even then it’s very tough). I’m almost 46 and 5’4 and weigh 132. I have a desk job but workout 6 days a week. It gets very hard the older you get. I don’t think this is accurate to say we all need to eat more. I’ve tried eating more and it didn’t work.
No one said to eat more in your thread. We suggested you set a realistic deficit and tighten your weighing & logging.
PS age isn’t an excuse - I lost 97 from 57 to 59. But it is harder when you don’t have a lot to lose because you have to be very accurate with your calorie logging.6 -
1,500 calories would be maintenance for me. I need to eat 1,200 calories or lower to lose weight (and even then it’s very tough). I’m almost 46 and 5’4 and weigh 132. I have a desk job but workout 6 days a week. It gets very hard the older you get. I don’t think this is accurate to say we all need to eat more. I’ve tried eating more and it didn’t work.
No one said to eat more in your thread. We suggested you set a realistic deficit and tighten your weighing & logging.
PS age isn’t an excuse - I lost 97 from 57 to 59. But it is harder when you don’t have a lot to lose because you have to be very accurate with your calorie logging.
I was referring to this thread where the OP says that no one should be eating 1,200 calories to lose weight and you need to eat more. That’s bs. The closer you are to your goal the closer you need to be to 1,200 calories a day to lose weight. And even then it’s going to come off very slowly.
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Closer in the sense that your calorie needs decrease as you get smaller. But I'm currently eating more like 1600-1700 to drop the last 20 lbs or so. (1400 as sedentary, but long walks and strength training give me more calories.)1
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