Great visual for mindful eating!
CheriAnn73
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I need this in my refrigerator!
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that looks like my Saturday night, well at least the left side of that equation16
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I tried mindful eating, but it always morphed into bellyful eating. This time I am continuing to log in maintenance. About 3 months so far, which is the longest I have maintained a big loss in decades. Mindful eating is a good goal, but most people who ended up overweight can't do it well.12
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Sigh...pizza and tortilla chips are my favorite things on that list and they just happen to have the worst quantity to calorie ratio.
Seriously though, the calories in tortilla chips is just stupid. At least pizza can be a full meal.4 -
Four cans of Miller Light? I'd rather have two bottles of Sam Adams.7
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Also how big are those dang tortilla chips? most of the ones I log are 10 chips for 140 calories, so at 28 chips it would only be around 392 calories. Even doritos are 150 cals for 12 chips.5
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Although offsetting hyper-caloric food with exercise is a good strategy, this approach may have a tendency towards encouraging exercise bulimia. The, "Damn, I ate that cookie - 30 minutes on the treadmill, stat!" mindset.20
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Unless those tortilla chips are in nacho cheese sauce, there is no way 28 tortilla chips have 560 cals.13
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I actually hate looking at food in terms of how much I need to work off in order to consume it. I am sure that might work for some, but for me I would go ahead and choose what I want and work it in my calories.
And I a agree with the above, what kind of tortilla chips are so calorie dense that 28 of them cost 560 calories, that would be more like half a bag worth.
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I would strongly suggest that the yoga count for cals is 2-3 times what you would really burn from yoga
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I'd have to walk an hour or more for a can of coke, the exercise cals are sort of meaningless.4
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There is no way I would ever eat 28 chips for 560 calories and I have never liked pigs in a blanket but the rest I could work off just sitting on my couch if they fit in my calories.5
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »
true and its also funny to me that we will never be able to burn exactly what we plan to eat as the image implies. Exercise burns are just estimations.0 -
Again, MFP being MFP.
The spirit of the post/graphic is fine. Yes, there are things I don't like about it, but the concept it's addressing if certainly valid. As with most things.. If it works for you, then great. If it doesn't, also great. Take what you want and leave the rest. No reason to poopoo everything that isn't presented exactly the way you want.24 -
Again, MFP being MFP.
The spirit of the post/graphic is fine. Yes, there are things I don't like about it, but the concept it's addressing if certainly valid. As with most things.. If it works for you, then great. If it doesn't, also great. Take what you want and leave the rest. No reason to poopoo everything that isn't presented exactly the way you want.
Oversimplification leads to Weight Watchers points systems, which also "work for some" but this is MFP and the culture is generally powered by understanding of true and actual mechanisms. You can't expect to post any fuzzy math here and not hear about the inaccuracies, it's just how it is.14 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »Again, MFP being MFP.
The spirit of the post/graphic is fine. Yes, there are things I don't like about it, but the concept it's addressing if certainly valid. As with most things.. If it works for you, then great. If it doesn't, also great. Take what you want and leave the rest. No reason to poopoo everything that isn't presented exactly the way you want.
Oversimplification leads to Weight Watchers points systems, which also "work for some" but this is MFP and the culture is generally powered by understanding of true and actual mechanisms. You can't expect to post any fuzzy math here and not hear about the inaccuracies, it's just how it is.
I might argue that the general culture is arguing to be right rather than to be helpful... but then I'm just feeding into that culture, aren't I?
But to your point... I don't disagree. I'm merely suggesting that it's not always necessary. Generalizations can be perfectly fine at times.14 -
I might argue that the general culture is arguing to be right rather than to be helpful... but then I'm just feeding into that culture, aren't I?
But to your point... I don't disagree. I'm merely suggesting that it's not always necessary. Generalizations can be perfectly fine at times.
Are 'right' and 'helpful' mutually exclusive? I would definitely argue that when it happens being wrong and helpful is accidental.
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I might argue that the general culture is arguing to be right rather than to be helpful... but then I'm just feeding into that culture, aren't I?
But to your point... I don't disagree. I'm merely suggesting that it's not always necessary. Generalizations can be perfectly fine at times.
Are 'right' and 'helpful' mutually exclusive? I would definitely argue that when it happens being wrong and helpful is accidental.
They can be. We might be getting to that point here.2 -
Charts like this seem to forget that you burn calories just by living. If I burn 2000 calories in a normal, non-exercise day I can still eat pizza and oreos as long as I don't eat a total of more than 2000 calories. You don't have to "make-up" for higher calorie foods with exercise, you just have to fit them into your day.14
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This is good to know. Sometimes I need a quick 280 calories to make sure I hit my calorie requirements. I will have to keep double stuffed Oreo cookies on hand
Last night was a case in point. 9:00pm and I had only eaten 646 calories of my daily 1400. Add in 614 exercise calories for some cycling, and I was only netting 32 calories for the day. After a hot workout (cycling in 90+ degree temps in Texas), I have no appetite. So I ate a little of this, a little of that, nothing of which I was really hungry until I reached a net of 1010 calories.
It would have been so much nicer and satisfying to have a handful of Oreo cookies and a big glass of cold milk to round out the day....6 -
I might argue that the general culture is arguing to be right rather than to be helpful... but then I'm just feeding into that culture, aren't I?
But to your point... I don't disagree. I'm merely suggesting that it's not always necessary. Generalizations can be perfectly fine at times.
Are 'right' and 'helpful' mutually exclusive? I would definitely argue that when it happens being wrong and helpful is accidental.
They can be. We might be getting to that point here.
You are right. They can be. But that is not how you worded it when you decided what the "general culture" was doing is it? I see a lot of people taking time out of their day to help others and if they have an intolerance for myths because they interfere I can't say as I blame them.
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Mindful Eating or Intuitive Eating doesn't work for me. You're supposed to cultivate a deep self-awareness that you can eat whatever you want- whenever you want. I thought you might've been looking for our individual visuals.
My visual is the image of me trying to get off the floor with knee pain, pain in my wrists and shoulders trying to lift myself up. It's me, taking the stairs one step at a time, hanging on so I don't fall while I put my good knee down first and then the bum knee that was buckling under the weight. That's my visual that keeps me going. I don't want to go out like that.2 -
I'm not a fan of anything that fails to account for context and dosage. It typically ends up demonizing individual foods. Never a wise strategy IMO.6
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I actually do this with money, how many hours do I have to work for something, honestly surprises me how I can afford anything at all after bills lol6
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Thankfully I don't eat any of these!1
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So, I'm going to need to pay for any "naughty" things I eat with physical labor. Exercise as punishment for food sins. Lovely.
It's interesting that the chart doesn't include things like:
1 cup sliced avocado = 234 calories = 29 minutes of high impact aerobics
1 cup sliced banana = 133 calories = 23 minutes walking (4 mph)15 -
So, I'm going to need to pay for any "naughty" things I eat with physical labor. Exercise as punishment for food sins. Lovely.
It's interesting that the chart doesn't include things like:
1 cup sliced avocado = 234 calories = 29 minutes of high impact aerobics
1 cup sliced banana = 133 calories = 23 minutes walking (4 mph)
Yeah, I find the focus on specific foods to be rather unhelpful here (for me personally). There are lots of calorie-dense foods, but charts like this only focus on a narrow range. But that's the kind of focus that leads to "Help - I'm eating clean/healthy but I'm not losing any weight."7 -
Grimmerick wrote: »I actually do this with money, how many hours do I have to work for something, honestly surprises me how I can afford anything at all after bills lol
Ha I do this with units sold, as we manufacture and wholesale. "That costs 25 CDs sold holy *kitten*."0 -
I might argue that the general culture is arguing to be right rather than to be helpful... but then I'm just feeding into that culture, aren't I?
But to your point... I don't disagree. I'm merely suggesting that it's not always necessary. Generalizations can be perfectly fine at times.
Are 'right' and 'helpful' mutually exclusive? I would definitely argue that when it happens being wrong and helpful is accidental.
They can be. We might be getting to that point here.
You are right. They can be. But that is not how you worded it when you decided what the "general culture" was doing is it? I see a lot of people taking time out of their day to help others and if they have an intolerance for myths because they interfere I can't say as I blame them.
I fail to see any myths in this thread.
I also think there is a line between dispelling a myth and splitting that myth into microscopic hairs, then arguing about whether those hairs are brown or burnt sienna - something we do quite often around here.7 -
CheriAnn73 wrote: »I need this in my refrigerator!
Is it more helpful for you than just prelogging whatever you want to eat?
I log pizza and I know I can generally eat 2 pieces and a salad and that is a normal amount of calories for a dinner for me. If I ate soup or grilled chicken for dinner I'd still be looking at consuming 500-600 calories.
I don't like the graphic because I feel it promotes the idea that you have to "work off" all these foods if you choose to consume them... that these are bad because look at how much exercise it would take to burn that many calories. They chose very specific foods and drinks ignoring that nutritious foods and drinks have just as many calories and you don't have to exercise more just because you ate a banana vs drinking a coke if you have a calorie deficit with your total diet either way.
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