Keto or no keto?
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I love keto. Might not work for everybody but it works for me. I have lost 75 lbs. I have always had so much inflammation- it’s gone. My knees don’t hurt anymore. I can eat the same foods over and over so this is easy for me. When you go out and eat you are very limited. It’s either order a breakfast or bacon cheeseburger no bun. Egg on top. After you make it past the first week it gets easier.3
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I lost over 250 pounds from June 14, 2015-June 14, 2016 and have maintained that loss for almost two years with low-carb/keto.
Simplistically saying that all you need to lose weight is a calorie deficit is like saying all you need to get to the moon is rocket fuel.
If you've already got an understanding of how to do a low-carb/keto diet, all that's left is to tailor it to your own particular needs. If you're utterly lost on how to do low-carb/keto I recommend either Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution or Dr. Jason Fung's The Obesity Code, both will give you the power of the knowledge to properly do low-carb/keto.26 -
If you wish to get deep into keto debating please see this thread:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10671102/keto-or-no-keto/p1?new=1
Anyone have any tips for including more fat in their diet since that was the second part of the op?
I know including more oil, butter, and full fat dairy are easy ways to get more fat without increasing carbs too much.2 -
4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »If you wish to get deep into keto debating please see this thread:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10671102/keto-or-no-keto/p1?new=1
Anyone have any tips for including more fat in their diet since that was the second part of the op?
I know including more oil, butter, and full fat dairy are easy ways to get more fat without increasing carbs too much.
Avocado (though, carbs), fatty fish and cuts of meat like bacon, pork, and beef.1 -
4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »If you wish to get deep into keto debating please see this thread:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10671102/keto-or-no-keto/p1?new=1
Anyone have any tips for including more fat in their diet since that was the second part of the op?
I know including more oil, butter, and full fat dairy are easy ways to get more fat without increasing carbs too much.
Plenty of suggestions here in the "Need Fat" section:
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4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »If you wish to get deep into keto debating please see this thread:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10671102/keto-or-no-keto/p1?new=1
Anyone have any tips for including more fat in their diet since that was the second part of the op?
I know including more oil, butter, and full fat dairy are easy ways to get more fat without increasing carbs too much.
Plenty of suggestions here in the "Need Fat" section:
OMG this is awesome!!!0 -
There is a middle ground here. It's not strict Keto or nothing! You can try low carb, keep your carbs at around 100g and tweak up or down from there.
I had the same positive experience keeping my carbs capped at 100g than i did when i kept them at keto levels3 -
Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period33 -
vgentile990 wrote: »Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period
Untrue.10 -
vgentile990 wrote: »Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period
Please explain how one would lose weight without creating a caloric deficit?
Do you mean water weight?
There's no magic to being keto for weight loss, a calorie deficit is still needed.
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Please post your sources for this information and any relevant research to support your claim.
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100_PROOF_ wrote: »vgentile990 wrote: »Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period
Please explain how one would lose weight without creating a caloric deficit?
Do you mean water weight?
There's no magic to being keto for weight loss, a calorie deficit is still needed.
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Please post your sources for this information and any relevant research to support your claim.
I’ve been eating anywhere from 1500 to 1700 calories a day and lost 50lbs in a year ... when I reach my goal and began going to the gym I upped it to 2000 ... either of those number don’t seem to be a deficit... right? I was eating significantly less calories when I was heavier. I don’t think the calories matter it more the quality of food that makes the difference
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No source or science ... I self experiment to see what works best for me .... I also fast for 12 hours which contribute to my weight loss18
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vgentile990 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »vgentile990 wrote: »Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period
Please explain how one would lose weight without creating a caloric deficit?
Do you mean water weight?
There's no magic to being keto for weight loss, a calorie deficit is still needed.
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Please post your sources for this information and any relevant research to support your claim.
I’ve been eating anywhere from 1500 to 1700 calories a day and lost 50lbs in a year ... when I reach my goal and began going to the gym I upped it to 2000 ... either of those number don’t seem to be a deficit... right? I was eating significantly less calories when I was heavier. I don’t think the calories matter it more the quality of food that makes the difference
You made a claim and I'm asking you to support your claim with scientific evidence and reputable research.
Spreading misinformation is harmful to this community because many newcomers do not know how this all works yet. They could see your outlandish claim and really believe that they can eat at a calorie surplus and still lose weight as long as they are in ketosis.
If you lost weight, you where at a calorie deficit. There's no way around that.
Please support your claim with proof .13 -
vgentile990 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »vgentile990 wrote: »Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period
Please explain how one would lose weight without creating a caloric deficit?
Do you mean water weight?
There's no magic to being keto for weight loss, a calorie deficit is still needed.
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Please post your sources for this information and any relevant research to support your claim.
I’ve been eating anywhere from 1500 to 1700 calories a day and lost 50lbs in a year ... when I reach my goal and began going to the gym I upped it to 2000 ... either of those number don’t seem to be a deficit... right? I was eating significantly less calories when I was heavier. I don’t think the calories matter it more the quality of food that makes the difference
Actually, 1500 is the minimum calories recommended for men, so 1500-1700 cals is almost definitely a deficit. Regardless, if an overweight, adult male is eating less than 1500 cals and not losing weight they should go to a university hospital to be studied and documented.
I'm not going to touch the rest, as we were earlier asked not to debate in this thread.12 -
vgentile990 wrote: »No source or science ... I self experiment to see what works best for me .... I also fast for 12 hours which contribute to my weight loss
Anecdotal claims are as good as hearsay.
Misinformation can do a lot of harm to newcomers that don't yet know better.
What you are claiming is inaccurate and untrue.11 -
I’m not one to give advice. I just stated what worked for me. Calorie counting isn’t for me. Doing keto was a way to naturally burn my own fat, while being able to eat until I’m full
Everyone is different and has to experiment to see what helps them achieve there goal17 -
vgentile990 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »vgentile990 wrote: »Keto would be the quickest way to shed weight. And never have to be at a calorie deficit
As long as you get passed the adaptation period
Please explain how one would lose weight without creating a caloric deficit?
Do you mean water weight?
There's no magic to being keto for weight loss, a calorie deficit is still needed.
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Please post your sources for this information and any relevant research to support your claim.
I’ve been eating anywhere from 1500 to 1700 calories a day and lost 50lbs in a year ... when I reach my goal and began going to the gym I upped it to 2000 ... either of those number don’t seem to be a deficit... right? I was eating significantly less calories when I was heavier. I don’t think the calories matter it more the quality of food that makes the difference
Actually, 1500 is the minimum calories recommended for men, so 1500-1700 cals is almost definitely a deficit. Regardless, if an overweight, adult male is eating less than 1500 cals and not losing weight they should go to a university hospital to be studied and documented.
I'm not going to touch the rest, as we were earlier asked not to debate in this thread.
Is the 1500 calories for men on the standard American diet or you referring to keto ... for me that’s a lot of food ... the only reason I can now consume 2000 is because of the gym
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I see this thread has devolved into a my-diet-is-better-than-all-diets debate, not going to contribute to *that*. I'll just throw in my advice, which is if you think the keto WOE (way of eating) could suit you, give it a whirl. If it turns out to not please you, there are tons of other ways to feed yourself. You may have experiment a little to figure out what works for you. Just please don't give up if you can't stick to a given WOE. They all work, because they all create a calorie deficit; it's just finding the right way for you to create a calorie deficit that is in question.
Also, whatever you do, get more active, even if it's just walking. For me, having a workout plan in place prevents a lot of the random boredom eating that I used to do throughout the day, because I choose to work out during the time when I'm prone to the munchies. And it creates a little cushion for dessert, too.
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Tons of great info in this thread. From explaining the different diets and exactly what one is doing on them short and concise and to the point. And then the fat chart. How very cool. This one has the big yellow star for me. So much info in one place woo!2
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I’ve been keto for a few months now on a 75/20/5 fat/protein/carb split. I’ve been successfully hitting within a gram (+ or -) of my daily protein and carb goals but routinely have to figure out how to get extra fat in every night to round out my macros. I’ve found that I make a lot of ‘bowl’ dinners where I’ll sauté my meat and veggies in butter/MCT oil/bacon fat and then add in heavy cream and cheese to make a sauce. It’s usually ridiculously tasty and I’ve dropped about 4lbs a week for the last several months. Salad dressings, sautéing veggies in fats, fat bombs, MCT powder in drinks (I hate coffee so bulletproof coffee isn’t for me), desserts with cream and butter - all ways to get fats incorporated into your diet. It takes a while but I feel I’m getting better at hitting my macro goals now. As far as the efficacy of the ‘diet’ goes - you just have to give it a few weeks and see how it goes for you. Now I’m 6’7”, 44, and 273lbs (as of yesterday - was 332lbs in Feb of this year). I lift for 20-30 minutes 5 days a week and walk for 2 hours/10 miles daily. I’m eating 2250 calories a day and estimate my deficit to be up to 1000 calories. I also intermittently fast (between 7PM and 1PM) to help have larger meals and it makes planning/balancing macros easier. So is it keto? Intermittent fasting? Exercising regularly? A healthy calorie deficit? Yes to all would be my guess. Hope this helps with some of your original questions. Feel free to message me if you have any questions about my experiences with keto so far.1
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