Overweight “newbie” runners?
rekrapetak
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I have NEVER been a runner. I just can’t do it, it’s hard, I’m out of breath instantly and I have exercise induced asthma... I couldn’t run 100m without bending over in agony to catch my breath... yes I was 5’2 and weighed 78kg but even when I was lighter and younger I struggled.
My weight loss has got me so far to 68.1kg and I feel a big difference. I also started a walking exercise program, walking a min of 2.5km daily for 3 weeks. Some days I’ve walked 9km. Tonight, I left the house for the short 2.5km walk (it was 11:15 pm) with my dogs. For some unexplainable reason today I started jogging slowly and surprisingly I didn’t stop. My time was very slow, I probably could have gone a Tony bit quicker if I left the older dog at home but I managed 2.5km in 23 mins.
To most of you that probably sounds shockingly slow. But to me, the fact I jogged the whole 2.5km was unimaginable so I don’t care the time I clocked. I’m hoping, however, there may be some similar folk who are starting slowly (like me) or started slow a while back who can share some positivity and support etc!
Also I’d be interested to hear how people are improving- and tips to survive the leap to running.
My weight loss has got me so far to 68.1kg and I feel a big difference. I also started a walking exercise program, walking a min of 2.5km daily for 3 weeks. Some days I’ve walked 9km. Tonight, I left the house for the short 2.5km walk (it was 11:15 pm) with my dogs. For some unexplainable reason today I started jogging slowly and surprisingly I didn’t stop. My time was very slow, I probably could have gone a Tony bit quicker if I left the older dog at home but I managed 2.5km in 23 mins.
To most of you that probably sounds shockingly slow. But to me, the fact I jogged the whole 2.5km was unimaginable so I don’t care the time I clocked. I’m hoping, however, there may be some similar folk who are starting slowly (like me) or started slow a while back who can share some positivity and support etc!
Also I’d be interested to hear how people are improving- and tips to survive the leap to running.
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I think most people (of every skill level) do most of their running at an easy/zone 2 type of pace so I wouldn't worry too much about your speed. As your aerobic conditioning improves, your speed can improve at the same % of max heart rate.2
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Good for you for getting out, no matter how slow. The more you do it, the easier it will become.4
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Don't worry about speed. I'm part of a running club, and you would be surprised how many people are shocked to learn that they actually have to slow down in order to learn how to run or improve their running. It's marathon season now and people are all over our group boards looking for running partners to keep them at a slower pace for a certain distance for training.
Look into Couch to 5k programs (C25k) - there are plenty of apps you can use. Basically, you do a combination of various interval times over the course of about 10 weeks with the goal of being able to complete a 5k distance without walking. It's 10 weeks if you follow it perfectly, I know people who have repeated weeks because they didn't feel like they did well enough to move on.
I did one of them a few years ago because I wanted to complete a 5k, this year I completed an 8k and a half marathon over one weekend, and I'm signed up for a 20k, a Ragnar race, and a 10 miler. If you would have asked me at the end of that 5k if I ever thought I'd even make it to a 10k, I would have looked at you like you were crazy.8 -
I was overweight when I started a C25K program a couple of years ago. I abandoned it early on because I couldn't even run 30 seconds, even after trying repeatedly.
I started the program again last year and following advice from posters ran at a speed that was barely faster than walking. I successfully completed the program and am working on 10K now.
I absolutely agree going slow is the key, especially in the beginning. I believe there's no such speed as "too slow" for us recreational runners just working on completing a 5K or 10K program9 -
The first rule of being a runner is just to start a run. Good for you! Welcome to the club.
Slow is a great way to acclimate your body to it. Get good shoes6 -
I have never been able to run. I have tried but even when doing it regularly I remain slow. At my peak of fitness I could run a mile in 12 minutes. My heart rate also shoots up to 200.
I can hike for miles or swim 50+ laps but cant run to save my life. The bouncing motion just tires me out too quickly.2 -
Welcome to the club! A lot of people (especially beginners) try to run too fast, and you actually need to slow down to see improvements in endurance. Most of your running should be at what is known as a "conversational pace". That is, you should be able to carry on a conversation with a partner in short but complete sentences. Google "talk test" for more pointers. Don't worry about speed at first - speed work can come later.
I agree with the above, look into the Couch to 5k training plan. It will get you from doing nothing to running 5k in about two months, and still feel good at the end.2 -
Three years ago, I was 215 lbs and started to run. I did intervals and used Zombies! Run! App to keep my interest. I joined a free, very supportive running group. I was at 14 minute mile when I ran for 2 miles. People at the run club said...so are you going to be back next week? We want you back next week. Agreeing to it helped me be accountable.
I'm down to 178 (5'8") and still use intervals for runs longer than 5 miles (3 minutes on, 45 seconds walk ala Jeff Galloway), run with the group, and am on season 4 of Zombies Run. I'm now at 13 minute miles during a 10 mile run or 10.5 minute mile over 2 miles.
I lost weight so I could keep up with my running friends. I lost weight so I could run races and beat my personal times. Running doesn't personally help me lose weight directly.
My advice is to find or create a local run club, which will help with accountability, boredom during long runs, and positive peer pressure (going faster during the run). Facebook groups are easy to create and maintain.
You are doing great and I look forward to hearing your progress!5 -
If you can walk for about half an hour comfortably, then start with Couch to 5k. I started running with this program when I was 100 pounds heavier, with a BMI of 42. I thought I was going to die during the first minute of running. I did not die (obviously) but about three years later, I’m maintaining in my optimal weight range and have completed several half marathons. It does get better.
Also, get a professional shoe fitting at a running store. Running in the wrong shoes can really increase your risk of injury.5 -
Yes to all of the above comments on c25k. I use the one by Zen labs. Years ago I went from using that to running 5 miles a day for fun! I, too, hate(d) running, but the feeling after is amazing. Pace doesn’t matter...just keep moving. You should be proud of yourself! I find upbeat music helps (love Pandora). Sadly, I stopped running and gained a lot of weight in 3 years . I’m 210 lbs., but I started c25k yesterday. Your pace is similar to mine....we should both me proud. Get fitted for a good running shoe (by a pro) and, if you’re female, a good sports bra.....the bra thing had me very uncomfortable yesterday (I had a low impact one on.....big mistake lol). I’m so happy for you!1
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First photo is from 2 years ago when I ran (Well more walked) my first ever 5k. Second from Sunday's 10k. Not sure how much I weighed in the first photo but it was still over 200lb and it was also just before I started getting in to heavy lifting. Since that first photo I've run many 5 and 10ks, 3 halfs and 1 full marathon, with many more booked.
When I first started actual running, it was run walk intervals, running 1 min, walking 1 min and I continued like that for maybe a year, until one day while running a half I forgot to walk and ran 20km. I'm not fast, and probably weigh similar to you, but am getting steadily getting faster and love to run.
I would say that if you're considering entering races it's a good idea to get used to running without earphones in (I play my music through my phone's speaker) as many road races do not allow earphones, that came as a big shock to me the first half I ran without them.
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Hi, I'm an obese runner! I started C25K about 13 months ago and during the intervening months I have gradually built up my distance. I have successfully completed races at distances between 5K and 21.1K (half marathon). I think 10K is my favourite distance. So of course I'm training for my next half marathon!6
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1. Slow down! Seriously, running is about gait, not speed. So long as both feet are off the ground at times, you are running. When I first started my running speed was slower than my walking speed.
2. You run 10m, 100m, 10km.. if you run, you ARE A RUNNER!
3. I ran just under 4 miles this morning, my pace: just over 12 minutes/mile. (12:11/mile according to my Garmin). I am a slow runner as well, but I run, that's all that matters. Don't be upset at your speed, speed will come naturally in time
4. Focus on gait, posture, and breathing. Not speed. C25K is an amazing program designed for beginners. On thier website, they even recommend repeating weeks if needed.
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Wow you guys are so supportive- it is a breath of fresh air. I know a lot of “serious” runners and they almost seemed to belittle my efforts. One even laughed and said “ haha are you sure you were even running?!” - I could’ve punched him!
That pushed me today and I think I over did it a little- I did 2.5km in just under 19 mins. After reading the above I feel like I made a rookie error in trying too hard . Yesterday can naturally to me and it wasn’t planned or overthought. Going slow meant i was fully in control, I had my heartbeat and a good rate and breathing was much easier. It made me feel good and for the first time I ended thinking I wanted to keep running!
Tonight I set of too quick, my hb bag was 171. Breathing was difficult, I was knackered and I was staring at the finish line desperately praying to make it. I finished and realised this is what I’ve done wrong every time I ever tried to run because I was running at someone else’s pace and trying to push myself rather than enjoy it and just build endurance !
I’m going to look up couch to 5k. I think my local park has a running club on Saturdays too... I’ll think about joining in a month after I get on track. It’s difficult as I have a 1 year old and 3 year old so my running /exercise time is usually between 9pm- 6am!5 -
Im almost the same stats as you - 5'3" and around 67kg. I also get exercise induced asthma.
I started walking every lunch time, (always use my inhalers before going out) that progressed after a few months to a light jog, then to a run, and just this morning I ran 8km for fun and got a pace of 5:28 on one of km. This process has taken about 18 months.
if you are going to start jogging, and maybe increase to running, get yourself some really good shoes, your body will thank you for it. And just go running. I have done nothing to train for this, I just get out running regularly. And use your inhaler before every run, your lungs will thank you. my breathing has gotten better, I can do a couple of km now without needing it, but as soon as I hit a hill, I need that salbutamol (best drug in the world!)1 -
rekrapetak wrote: »Wow you guys are so supportive- it is a breath of fresh air. I know a lot of “serious” runners and they almost seemed to belittle my efforts. One even laughed and said “ haha are you sure you were even running?!” - I could’ve punched him!
I'm sorry, but that is not a serious runner. That is a serious *kitten*. Serious runners do not behave like that and are NOT welcome in the groups I run with (and I run with many very, very serious runners).
Good luck and don't get discouraged. You will get there.16 -
Congratulations! Slow is the way to go! I think of being able to stay ahead of the zombies—all you need is a steady pace Seriously, though, by starting slowly and adding distance cautiousl ( 10% per week), you can build endurance without injury. And slow running is just so relaxing! I’ve never worried about speed and never entered a race of any type, and have been a runner for almost 45 years. No running-caused injuries either. Bones of a 25 y.o. And low heart rate and other great vital stats despite obesity following a high-risk pregnancy. Enjoy!1
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rekrapetak wrote: »I have NEVER been a runner. I just can’t do it, it’s hard
These were my exact thoughts two years ago! I never finished above second from last during any run at school and I hated running. When I first started, I would take an hour to walk 5km. The key, I found, was persistence. Just not giving up. I also went for distance, rather than time. I would do 5 km no matter how long it took me.
Slowly, but surely, you get better. I now can run 5k in under 30 minutes and my fastest 10k time is 55 mins. That is about it for me, as - mentally - I just can't see the point of running any farther! I know run 5k 4 times or so a week and really enjoy it. Still pretty slow compared to some, but comfortable for me.
I guess the best advice with running is similar to that with the best exercise: it is whatever you can come back to, day after day, and be able to do.
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There is some wonderful, inspiring advice here. So great to see an online niche that builds people up2
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That is AMAZING! Seriously, I am super proud of you for going for it! I have never been able to run either. I would like to start, but I am so self conscious of how short the distance is I can run that I couldn't do it in the route I walk. I am hoping one day to get to that point. But that is a huge accomplishment - be proud of yourself!2
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Way to go! I’m in a similar position. I started and stopped the c25k program several times and one day I decided I’d just run for 15 min. Instead and I’m building on that, adding 10% ish (in minutes) each week. It’s amazing. I love it so far. I love being in tune with my body and how it’s feeling. If I feel my heart rate pick up then I just make a conscious effort to slow down. My lungs don’t “burn” anymore and my heart doesn’t feel like it’s going to jump out of my chest. Slow is the way to go0
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Congratulations!
I am so glad to read you touting the advantage of running slow and easy.
So many people want to pick up running. But they go out and they push themselves too hard right off the bat, and it is uncomfortable and unpleasant, and they stop.
If they just slowed down a bit, and were less afraid to stop and walk when it becomes painful and a struggle, they wouldn't mind it so much and they wouldn't quit and, over time, they would get better.
Hopefully, with time, they'd start to get some of those runners' endorphins and they'd even learn to enjoy it.
Here it comes! The cliche. "Rome wasn't built in a day."
Neither is physical conditioning. Or a better body.1 -
I did my first couch to 5 today (I took yesterday off thanks to shin splints from pushing too hard Sunday). I thought about waiting a day more as my legs are still feeling heavy, but I figured I’d be walking the dogs anyway so a little jog in between would be fine.
So day 1 - I found this easy (60 seconds run then 90 seconds walking) x 8 essentially. Admittedly I was running very slow again but I’m taking it easy. The second from last 60 I thought I’d continue running in the 90 break and back into another minute. But I found I still felt good so I jogged the 5 min cool down too! Then I walked 10 mins to cool off properly.
I’m not worried about the next 2 runs with it now. Im going to try and stick to program but maybe add a bit more speed - only slight mind. Overall with this program and the rest of my walk 5k took 50 mins. I guess that’s the starting point huh?!2 -
rekrapetak wrote: »I did my first couch to 5 today (I took yesterday off thanks to shin splints from pushing too hard Sunday). I thought about waiting a day more as my legs are still feeling heavy, but I figured I’d be walking the dogs anyway so a little jog in between would be fine.
So day 1 - I found this easy (60 seconds run then 90 seconds walking) x 8 essentially. Admittedly I was running very slow again but I’m taking it easy. The second from last 60 I thought I’d continue running in the 90 break and back into another minute. But I found I still felt good so I jogged the 5 min cool down too! Then I walked 10 mins to cool off properly.
I’m not worried about the next 2 runs with it now. Im going to try and stick to program but maybe add a bit more speed - only slight mind. Overall with this program and the rest of my walk 5k took 50 mins. I guess that’s the starting point huh?!
The thing with running injuries is you find you have one when you are getting out of the shower/going down the stairs/getting up in the morning/doing something that seems normal. Then bam, you find that something hurts that didn't before you ran.
The way to prevent this is to not over do things. Your lungs will develop quickly. Your legs take time. Stick with the plan and you will enjoy this sport for years.
Good luck.9 -
rekrapetak wrote: »I did my first couch to 5 today (I took yesterday off thanks to shin splints from pushing too hard Sunday). I thought about waiting a day more as my legs are still feeling heavy, but I figured I’d be walking the dogs anyway so a little jog in between would be fine.
So day 1 - I found this easy (60 seconds run then 90 seconds walking) x 8 essentially. Admittedly I was running very slow again but I’m taking it easy. The second from last 60 I thought I’d continue running in the 90 break and back into another minute. But I found I still felt good so I jogged the 5 min cool down too! Then I walked 10 mins to cool off properly.
I’m not worried about the next 2 runs with it now. Im going to try and stick to program but maybe add a bit more speed - only slight mind. Overall with this program and the rest of my walk 5k took 50 mins. I guess that’s the starting point huh?!
The thing with running injuries is you find you have one when you are getting out of the shower/going down the stairs/getting up in the morning/doing something that seems normal. Then bam, you find that something hurts that didn't before you ran.
The way to prevent this is to not over do things. Your lungs will develop quickly. Your legs take time. Stick with the plan and you will enjoy this sport for years.
Good luck.
Yes, the thing with running is that your cardiovascular system will improve much faster than your musculoskeletal system. That is, you will feel like you are capable of running longer and/or harder than your muscles and joints are really ready for. So the key to injury-free running is patience. I know it will seem frustratingly slow at times, but you should trust the process. Otherwise you risk going "too fast, too soon" and getting hurt, then adding do the chorus of people who say "running hurts your knees". (It doesn't, really. Studies have found that lifelong runners actually have fewer joint problems. The top risk factors turn out to be weight and a sedentary lifestyle.)4 -
I used to stop as soon as I got winded. Then, one day, I pushed through and got into “the zone”. I am so amazed I can run now. I use cues like “engage glutes/core” and “quick short steps (jogging not sprinting)”. I try to relax my shoulders and keep my hands just below waist level.2
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rekrapetak wrote: »I did my first couch to 5 today (I took yesterday off thanks to shin splints from pushing too hard Sunday). I thought about waiting a day more as my legs are still feeling heavy, but I figured I’d be walking the dogs anyway so a little jog in between would be fine.
So day 1 - I found this easy (60 seconds run then 90 seconds walking) x 8 essentially. Admittedly I was running very slow again but I’m taking it easy. The second from last 60 I thought I’d continue running in the 90 break and back into another minute. But I found I still felt good so I jogged the 5 min cool down too! Then I walked 10 mins to cool off properly.
I’m not worried about the next 2 runs with it now. Im going to try and stick to program but maybe add a bit more speed - only slight mind. Overall with this program and the rest of my walk 5k took 50 mins. I guess that’s the starting point huh?!
The thing with running injuries is you find you have one when you are getting out of the shower/going down the stairs/getting up in the morning/doing something that seems normal. Then bam, you find that something hurts that didn't before you ran.
The way to prevent this is to not over do things. Your lungs will develop quickly. Your legs take time. Stick with the plan and you will enjoy this sport for years.
Good luck.
That is so true! I just started running a few weeks ago and by the end of my run, my lungs and my heart feel perfectly fine but my legs and feet are so tired0 -
I'm new to running too. I did my 1st 5k fathers day. I ran this week and did 2 miles in about 23 minutes. I dont want to hurt myself, I had hip surgery a year or so ago ( torn labrum) so I go at my pace and watch my form and breathing. Just do your thing and watch out for your breathing and form and enjoy!0
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I’ve just finished my first 5k...if you’d told me that a couple of months ago I would never have believed you! I’m 56lb heavier than I’d like to be but I built up really gradually. I did 5k in 35 minutes this week and was so proud of myself because I never thought I’d get here. But I did! And now I love it and look forward to running again!3
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rekrapetak wrote: »I did my first couch to 5 today (I took yesterday off thanks to shin splints from pushing too hard Sunday). I thought about waiting a day more as my legs are still feeling heavy, but I figured I’d be walking the dogs anyway so a little jog in between would be fine.
So day 1 - I found this easy (60 seconds run then 90 seconds walking) x 8 essentially. Admittedly I was running very slow again but I’m taking it easy. The second from last 60 I thought I’d continue running in the 90 break and back into another minute. But I found I still felt good so I jogged the 5 min cool down too! Then I walked 10 mins to cool off properly.
I’m not worried about the next 2 runs with it now. Im going to try and stick to program but maybe add a bit more speed - only slight mind. Overall with this program and the rest of my walk 5k took 50 mins. I guess that’s the starting point huh?!
The thing with running injuries is you find you have one when you are getting out of the shower/going down the stairs/getting up in the morning/doing something that seems normal. Then bam, you find that something hurts that didn't before you ran.
The way to prevent this is to not over do things. Your lungs will develop quickly. Your legs take time. Stick with the plan and you will enjoy this sport for years.
Good luck.
Yes, the thing with running is that your cardiovascular system will improve much faster than your musculoskeletal system. That is, you will feel like you are capable of running longer and/or harder than your muscles and joints are really ready for. So the key to injury-free running is patience. I know it will seem frustratingly slow at times, but you should trust the process. Otherwise you risk going "too fast, too soon" and getting hurt, then adding do the chorus of people who say "running hurts your knees". (It doesn't, really. Studies have found that lifelong runners actually have fewer joint problems. The top risk factors turn out to be weight and a sedentary lifestyle.)
Yep. I recently found out that my legs start getting upset at around the 45 minute mark, yet my lungs are still happy little campers. I'm glad I did a lot of strength training for the first two years of my weight loss journey, the extra strength in my legs are helping my legs from being sore after a run.0
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