Ketogenic Diet
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So I lost 50 pounds originally just by doing CICO on here over a year and a half. I gained almost all of it back and I’m tying to figure out the best way to lose it quickly again.
I know people who have lost very quickly on th ketogenic diet and I was wondering what people’s experience with it was? Like I would obviously still be using CICO in congruence with it.
I know people who have lost very quickly on th ketogenic diet and I was wondering what people’s experience with it was? Like I would obviously still be using CICO in congruence with it.
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They lose it quickly because it's mainly water weight and glycogen that is getting depleted, not fat. Keto can only benefit you in your weight loss journey only if it keeps you satiated enough for you to stick at a caloric deficit.23
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It works for a lot of people but it's not about the type of food or the macro split, it's still about finding a way to eat that you can be happy doing and stay within calories. Regular food works for a lot of people too - without restrictions on types of foods.
I couldn't do without my carbs. I tried and it was miserable.
Only way to know for yourself is to try and see if you enjoy eating that way. It's no faster - still all about the calorie deficit. You still want to eat enough but not too much.
At least you know what worked last time, so you can do that!7 -
So I lost 50 pounds originally just by doing CICO on here over a year and a half. I gained almost all of it back and I’m tying to figure out the best way to lose it quickly again.
I know people who have lost very quickly on th ketogenic diet and I was wondering what people’s experience with it was? Like I would obviously still be using CICO in congruence with it.
Have you considered that losing weight quickly is part of the problem/reason why you gained it all back.... Because you were never able to develop good long term habits since you were more focused on restricting calories aggressively?25 -
I'd suggest you nnecmriverside wrote: »It works for a lot of people but it's not about the type of food or the macro split, it's still about finding a way to eat that you can be happy doing and stay within calories. Regular food works for a lot of people too - without restrictions on types of foods.
I couldn't do without my carbs. I tried and it was miserable.
Only way to know for yourself is to try and see if you enjoy eating that way. It's no faster - still all about the calorie deficit. You still want to eat enough but not too much.
At least you know what worked last time, so you can do that!
I'd suggest you need to change your mentality from "fast" to sustainable. You gained back because you didn't learn that the last time.14 -
So I lost 50 pounds originally just by doing CICO on here over a year and a half. I gained almost all of it back and I’m tying to figure out the best way to lose it quickly again.
I know people who have lost very quickly on th ketogenic diet and I was wondering what people’s experience with it was? Like I would obviously still be using CICO in congruence with it.
Don't look for the "quick fix." I've lost and re-gained also. Getting to goal weight is just step 1.
Would keto (very low carb/high fat).....but still calorie deficit (because it's always calorie deficit) be something that would help you with maintenance? If something doesn't help me with maintenance, I don't bother......this time.
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The issue is that aggressive deficit. It reminds me about The biggest loser where contestants on the show lost tremendous weight in a short period of time and most of them regained the weight back after the show .8
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I hear all of you and I get why my OP was confusing/miscommunciated but like I said I lost the original 50 pounds over a year and a half and I did that with a 500 cal deficit a week, which I wouldn’t consider aggressive at all.
I believe the reason I gained it mostly back is due to the fact I stopped logging and life got in the way so I started eating poorly and not working out as often.
I know if I just stick to what I did last time I’d be able to do it, i was just wondering peoples experience with th keto diet.6 -
I hear all of you and I get why my OP was confusing/miscommunciated but like I said I lost the original 50 pounds over a year and a half and I did that with a 500 cal deficit a week, which I wouldn’t consider aggressive at all.
I believe the reason I gained it mostly back is due to the fact I stopped logging and life got in the way so I started eating poorly and not working out as often.
I know if I just stick to what I did last time I’d be able to do it, i was just wondering peoples experience with th keto diet.
It has roughly the same success rate as other diets. Ultimately, you want to find a way that you find yourself to be able to sustain long term. If you are ok with eliminating carbs long term, than it might be worth a try.9 -
I hear all of you and I get why my OP was confusing/miscommunciated but like I said I lost the original 50 pounds over a year and a half and I did that with a 500 cal deficit a week, which I wouldn’t consider aggressive at all.
I believe the reason I gained it mostly back is due to the fact I stopped logging and life got in the way so I started eating poorly and not working out as often.
I know if I just stick to what I did last time I’d be able to do it, i was just wondering peoples experience with th keto diet.
The great thing is that you know what you have to do in order to get the results you want. Just that this time you know you can't get lazy once you reach your goals. You can give keto a try and see if that helps with your satiety as this can make it easier to adhere to a calorie deficit. I'd just make sure you do plenty of research first to help minimise potential side effects like keto flu.4 -
Ketogenic diet works. So does CICO. I lost 100 lbs in 6 months in 2011 without Keto. had a couple of injuries and stopped caring. Gained everything back over a period of 5 years. If you think about it, it is much easier to lose weight than gain. I have been Keto since April and have lost 60 lbs. I don’t feel miserable this time. Personally I feel you can lose weight with any diet. I am really liking the Keto lifestyle. I find it satiating, very easy to follow, I have no cravings for food like I had in 2011. Don’t go too high on fat if you try Keto. Probably 70% max will be fine if you are trying to lose fat. No more than 5% carbs. I only count actual carbs, not net carbs.5
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »I hear all of you and I get why my OP was confusing/miscommunciated but like I said I lost the original 50 pounds over a year and a half and I did that with a 500 cal deficit a week, which I wouldn’t consider aggressive at all.
I believe the reason I gained it mostly back is due to the fact I stopped logging and life got in the way so I started eating poorly and not working out as often.
I know if I just stick to what I did last time I’d be able to do it, i was just wondering peoples experience with th keto diet.
The great thing is that you know what you have to do in order to get the results you want. Just that this time you know you can't get lazy once you reach your goals. You can give keto a try and see if that helps with your satiety as this can make it easier to adhere to a calorie deficit. I'd just make sure you do plenty of research first to help minimise potential side effects like keto flu.
Very good info thanks!0 -
rpmkarting wrote: »Ketogenic diet works. So does CICO. I lost 100 lbs in 6 months in 2011 without Keto. had a couple of injuries and stopped caring. Gained everything back over a period of 5 years. If you think about it, it is much easier to lose weight than gain. I have been Keto since April and have lost 60 lbs. I don’t feel miserable this time. Personally I feel you can lose weight with any diet. I am really liking the Keto lifestyle. I find it satiating, very easy to follow, I have no cravings for food like I had in 2011. Don’t go too high on fat if you try Keto. Probably 70% max will be fine if you are trying to lose fat. No more than 5% carbs. I only count actual carbs, not net carbs.
Good to know thanks!
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You cant do keto successfully without CICO. That's where many go wrong. You must follow the 5% 25% 75% rule where carbs are conserved in order to get the max benefit from keto. Keep in mind you will be cooking homemade dinners 90% if not 99% of the time..
As for fast weight loss, yes on keto the first week usually shows a huge drop..yes most of that is water. However once you are fat adapted you burn fat as energy not glucose. At this point your body will naturally stop craving carbs. Even if you still want carbs there are suit as ble alternative that dont spike your blood sugar....as in.lilys chocolate bars..net carbs are amazingly low for chocolate, they even make chocolate chips. You can bake your own bread..cakes muffins and candy (fat bombs) are all good ways to curb your carb habit but remain true to keto...please research, you can watch Dr Berg on you tube free..21 -
Keto is great if you find that particular mix of macros filling. Some people do and some people don't. It's really no different than any other diet in that comes down to how many calories you consume. Of course, if you have a medical condition that keto/low carbing is helpful in addressing, keto might move up the ladder options for you.7
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Has anyone seen The Magic Pill? It's on Netflix. I just watched it and WOW, eye opening! I'm not sure if I'm ready to give up carbs, per se, because I want to start having oatmeal in the morning, but the rest of my food I think I can do keto. Hmm...we'll see.33
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Has anyone seen The Magic Pill? It's on Netflix. I just watched it and WOW, eye opening! I'm not sure if I'm ready to give up carbs, per se, because I want to start having oatmeal in the morning, but the rest of my food I think I can do keto. Hmm...we'll see.
You can also find some really powerful documentaries on Netflix that will tell you the only way to be healthy is to go vegan, or do a juice fast
Don't make health related decisions based on documentaries. They are entertainment. They are not required to tell you both sides of the story, or even required to tell you the truth at all.28 -
Has anyone seen The Magic Pill? It's on Netflix. I just watched it and WOW, eye opening! I'm not sure if I'm ready to give up carbs, per se, because I want to start having oatmeal in the morning, but the rest of my food I think I can do keto. Hmm...we'll see.
As with most Netflix "documentaries", The Magic Pill is a one-sided propaganda piece of hack journalism which cherry-picks and flat-out misstates actual science. Pete Evans is nothing more than a celebrity chef, with no education or training in medicine and/or nutrition, and the Australian Medical Association has called for The Magic Pill to be removed from circulation, calling it "irresponsible" and saying "the risk of misinformation is too great".
https://synapses.co.za/the-magic-pill-pete-evans-does-documentary/
https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/netflix-urged-to-pull-pete-evans-documentary-20180531-p4zim2.html
On the flip side, you could watch Forks Over Knives or What The Health and be equally convinced that veganism is the miracle cure-all for everything and that you're killing yourself (and the rest of the world) by eating meat. Or you could watch Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead and be utterly convinced that you need to buy a juicer and drink all your meals from now on out.25 -
You cant do keto successfully without CICO. That's where many go wrong. You must follow the 5% 25% 75% rule where carbs are conserved in order to get the max benefit from keto. Keep in mind you will be cooking homemade dinners 90% if not 99% of the time..
As for fast weight loss, yes on keto the first week usually shows a huge drop..yes most of that is water. However once you are fat adapted you burn fat as energy not glucose. At this point your body will naturally stop craving carbs. Even if you still want carbs there are suit as ble alternative that dont spike your blood sugar....as in.lilys chocolate bars..net carbs are amazingly low for chocolate, they even make chocolate chips. You can bake your own bread..cakes muffins and candy (fat bombs) are all good ways to curb your carb habit but remain true to keto...please research, you can watch Dr Berg on you tube free..
Awesome info! Thanks2 -
You cant do keto successfully without CICO. That's where many go wrong. You must follow the 5% 25% 75% rule where carbs are conserved in order to get the max benefit from keto. Keep in mind you will be cooking homemade dinners 90% if not 99% of the time..
As for fast weight loss, yes on keto the first week usually shows a huge drop..yes most of that is water. However once you are fat adapted you burn fat as energy not glucose. At this point your body will naturally stop craving carbs. Even if you still want carbs there are suit as ble alternative that dont spike your blood sugar....as in.lilys chocolate bars..net carbs are amazingly low for chocolate, they even make chocolate chips. You can bake your own bread..cakes muffins and candy (fat bombs) are all good ways to curb your carb habit but remain true to keto...please research, you can watch Dr Berg on you tube free..
I'm astonished that "Dr" Berg is touted as a reliable source on any subject when he has been disciplined for pushing treatments including holding homeopathic water (in other words plain old water...) over people and listening to patient's hearts to evaluate nutrition - let's face it that would be bonkers even if Berg was a medical doctor (he isn't but seems to forget to mention that when using the designation) or cardiologist.
Would suggest Lyle McDonald would be a more respected source of information.16 -
You cant do keto successfully without CICO. That's where many go wrong. You must follow the 5% 25% 75% rule where carbs are conserved in order to get the max benefit from keto. Keep in mind you will be cooking homemade dinners 90% if not 99% of the time..
As for fast weight loss, yes on keto the first week usually shows a huge drop..yes most of that is water. However once you are fat adapted you burn fat as energy not glucose. At this point your body will naturally stop craving carbs. Even if you still want carbs there are suit as ble alternative that dont spike your blood sugar....as in.lilys chocolate bars..net carbs are amazingly low for chocolate, they even make chocolate chips. You can bake your own bread..cakes muffins and candy (fat bombs) are all good ways to curb your carb habit but remain true to keto...please research, you can watch Dr Berg on you tube free..
I'm astonished that "Dr" Berg is touted as a reliable source on any subject when he has been disciplined for pushing treatments including holding homeopathic water (in other words plain old water...) over people and listening to patient's hearts to evaluate nutrition - let's face it that would be bonkers even if Berg was a medical doctor (he isn't but seems to forget to mention that when using the designation) or cardiologist.
Would suggest Lyle McDonald would be a more respected source of information.
Yes, "Dr." Berg (who sometimes seems to neglect to mention that he's a chiropractor, not an M.D.) was fined and censured by the Virginia Board of Medicine for (among other things) exceeding his scope of practice as a chiropractor, and using methods which have no scientific/medical proof of benefit: https://casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml
I don't consider him a reliable source for anything.You cant do keto successfully without CICO. That's where many go wrong...
Man, if you had just stopped right there, you would have been golden!12
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