Being overweight but seen as thin

Options
13»

Replies

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,418 Member
    edited August 2018
    Options
    I love the @middlehaitch and @GottaBurnEmAll photo comparisons at the same height: A very clear illustration of why overall body configuration really matters in determining a good weight. Both look great!

    My friends tended to tell me at SW that I "wasn't fat" when I would describe myself accurately as fat; it was a combination of being nice to me, and (for some) deluding themselves (they were heavier). What I knew, and they didn't, was that underneath a very (very) substantial fat layer (mid-180s at 5'5"), despite broad shoulders and big hands/arms, I was basically built like a 14-year-old boy, not a 60-year-old woman: Narrow pelvis, no breasts.

    Beyond that, because I was very active when obese (good CV fitness, decent strength), parts of my body looked more firm and less (for lack of a better term - apologies) doughy than many women of my BF%. Face and arms show more in public than belly, hips, thighs do, and the latter were where I was keeping a lot of my wobbly bits hidden under clothes.

    So, I got the "too thin" for a while after losing, until (1) they got used to the new me, and (2) I got some glycogen replenishment and loose-skin shrinkage with maintenance eating and the passage of time, so I didn't look as haggard as I frankly did at age 60 right after losing 50+ pounds in a bit under a year.

    A fitness instructor who sees me only occasionally saw me shortly after weight loss (after last seeing me obese), then again several months later at the very same weight. On the 2nd post-loss occasion, she told me that when she first saw me, she was glad I had lost weight, but thought I looked worrisomely thin, but on the second occasion looked fit and healthy. Trust me, a longtime-active 60-year-old woman isn't building enough muscle in 3-4 months to make much difference in appearance, and as a fit woman and triathlon coach herself with no horse in the race, I trust her observations.

    ETA: I even had a health care practitioner (PA or NP, I think the former but not sure) dispute me when I described myself as "obese". I told her to do the BMI calc . . . she had to admit I was correct. She just wasn't used to seeing pretty-fit obese people, and we look a bit different.
  • elsie6hickman
    elsie6hickman Posts: 3,864 Member
    Options
    In my experience, post menopausal women carry their weight different than women that still have menses. I went through menopause at age 42 (I mean I was done with it), but I honestly didn't notice much difference until I hit my mid-50s. Then fat started accumulating around my middle (both front and back), and it just sits differently on the body. It's a weird thing, and so different when I was always worried about my hips and thighs. And I notice it on men as well. My husband weighed the same for years, but when he hit his 50s, he started putting on weight around the middle - his legs and butt and chest remained the same, but his gut got bigger. I think it is a change in hormones.
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,484 Member
    Options
    I have always carried my weight in my abdomen, so it was hard to tell the difference when I was going through menopause.

    However, due to the hormonal changes during menopause women tend to start to store less subcutaneous fat, and more visceral fat. That is the bad stuff.

    The good thing is, with a reasonable deficit, and a reasonable cardio routine (optimal but not needed), the visceral fat is preferentially targeted, so you will lose most of that before the subcutaneous fat.

    HRT will probably affect the menopausal visceral fat accumulation. (Can't state as I didn't do HRT so didn't research it)

    Abdominal subcutaneous fat will follow your genetic disposition with regards to fat loss.

    (Hence me still having a jiggle when I laugh belly :))

    Cheers, h.
  • Deviette
    Deviette Posts: 979 Member
    edited August 2018
    Options
    Oh yeah, I had this when I first started losing. (infact it was the reason I didn't tell anyone aside from my partner about it until I lost about 4kg and inches across my chest and hips)

    I've alway been a little bit chunky. Not just fat, but also muscular. I am 159cm (so quite short) and have a fairly hourglass shape. I generally carry my weight well (mostly in my boobs and my thighs).

    I do judo. Weight is a thing that people talk about casually because it is useful to know when you're training with someone, how close they are to your weight category (men and women). I would regularly have people assume that I was 10-15kg lighter than I actually was. And were forever surprised how much I weighted when I told them (so many convos along the lines of: *me telling myself off for doing a rubbish throw* Them: "Yeah but I've got at least 10kg on you" Me: "I'm not sure you do.." Them: "I'm in the under 73kg category". Me: "Soooo I'm a little bit heavier than you then")

    Of course these were the same people who were shocked when I told them I was losing weight.

    For reference my bmi was borderline obese.

    I think some of the issues is that I've always been overweight. There was a time some years ago when I was very fit and bulked up a little, when I was probably a healthy body fat percentage, but was still officially overweight. But I think most people just thought that what I looked like is what I was supposed to look like at a healthy weight, (especially as I did lots of sports and was pretty fit) when that just wasn't the case.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,437 Member
    Options
    Yirara, I recently read an article about our body shapes. We are either pear or apple shaped. Women are for the most part pears. You can lose weight but you can't change your shape. You can weight lift to add muscle but the shape is still there. As for me, what's funny is even after I lost 60 pounds from 220 to 160, my friends said they don't remember me being obese, that is until I show them my before and after pictures, then its wow, I never noticed. 85dhxmsd7mhp.jpg
    oydfpjv8xsdi.jpg

    Wow, that's amazing!
    I need to dig out some old photos, though I'm currently on vacation. I always thought I was a pear until I lost weight. Now my shoulders are wider than my hips. But that simply is my bone structure. Mind you, my bum is still rather well formed, but to the back, not so much to the sides :wink:
    So I guess that makes me an inverted pear where the round is cut off on both sides on the wider part, and only one side on the smaller one (I'm trying to find an analogue. An hour glass would still be round :p )
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,484 Member
    edited August 2018
    Options
    yirara wrote: »
    I probably have some body dysmorphic issues. A very good friend of mine as well. She's constantly surprised that I don't fit into her clothes (she is petite, even if she's equally tall as me <3)

    Anyway, before I lost weight I was 76kg at 169cm. My friend thinks I always looked slim, and I guess part of that is because I do have a long neck and a rather small head, with very thin elven hair :s I also never had a big belly, and my collar bones, wide shoulders and wide pelvis bones poked out, tiny wrists. All padding was literally stuck on upper arms, legs, bum and hips.

    So are there other people who think they fit into this odd category? Are there people who are/were repeatedly told they are slim while being overweight?

    Just curious, really. Also would love to see photos of e.g. plus size models or other people who fit this category.

    After seeing your pics in the 'uterus' thread, I get what you are saying.

    I see you as slim too.

    I did check out your arms and legs, just because of this post, and yes your weight is carried there, and not on your torso (complete opposite of me), but both your arms and legs are very nicely shaped.

    Sorry I can't help with pics of a similar build.

    Cheers, h.

    ETA: if I wasn't purposefully checking you out, your arms and legs wouldn't have got a 2nd look. I would have just thought nicely built slim woman.
  • meagan8376
    meagan8376 Posts: 94 Member
    edited August 2018
    Options
    People say if I loose anymore weight I’ll be too skinny however I’m considered overweight by five pounds, I’m chunky. Society has changed with the millennials, they don’t seem to mind chunk.
  • VUA21
    VUA21 Posts: 2,072 Member
    Options
    meagan8376 wrote: »
    People say if I loose anymore weight I’ll be too skinny however I’m considered overweight by five pounds, I’m chunky. Society has changed with the millennials, they don’t seem to mind chunk.

    Actually it's more likely that because 70% of the US population is overweight, overweight is average. Because you're smaller than the average size, you're seen as being thin. It's about perspective, I'm a 5'7" woman, in Japan I'm seen as very tall, in the UK I'm average, in Sweeden I'm short. I'm overweight as well, but get told that I'm thin, because I'm just thinner than the average person.
  • meagan8376
    meagan8376 Posts: 94 Member
    Options
    VUA21 wrote: »
    meagan8376 wrote: »
    People say if I loose anymore weight I’ll be too skinny however I’m considered overweight by five pounds, I’m chunky. Society has changed with the millennials, they don’t seem to mind chunk.

    Actually it's more likely that because 70% of the US population is overweight, overweight is average. Because you're smaller than the average size, you're seen as being thin. It's about perspective, I'm a 5'7" woman, in Japan I'm seen as very tall, in the UK I'm average, in Sweeden I'm short. I'm overweight as well, but get told that I'm thin, because I'm just thinner than the average person.

    I don’t live in America. Good point tho
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    Options
    kksmom1789 wrote: »
    I am 5ft tall and weigh 166lbs so def in the obese category I wear size 12/14 jeans but I have a friend / coworker that is constantly telling me how skinny I look and she always seems to do it on days that I feel like I am a stuffed can of biscuits lol also when I look at myself in the mirror sometimes I don't feel super over weight I actually feel good about myself... I think I am just weird

    We wear a similar size pants (size 14 not quite reaching to the 12s yet) I'm 5'2 and 167lbs and my mom keeps telling me I'm "so slender" and I just....yes I am smaller than I was before but....my BMI is still obese!

    I think the trouble is that people think we are losing weight based on aesthetics & possibly even self hatred. Maybe they are trying to be encouraging/supportive by saying we are good here. But it's really a health concern being obese. There's some debate about the overweight category, because of muscle and activity level & waist circumference etc. But obesity is pretty much obesity, unless you're a body builder or smth intense. It would work out better for everyone if "skinny/slender" etc weren't our only compliments. Because I won't deny I carry my weight well. I look cute as heck, especially now I've dropped almost 40lbs. I look awesome. But not skinny. Not slender. Lmao.
  • rosyone1
    rosyone1 Posts: 32 Member
    Options
    For most of my adult life (pre-menopause) I thought of myself as average, if not marginally overweight, when my bmi was actually way below average according to this: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-18770328

    I have a light frame with a slender neck, prominent collarbones, and long and lean arms and legs relative to my short-waisted (make that almost no-waisted) torso. So I'm built like a banana, thin at the ends and thick in the middle. Guess where any excess fat wants to settle.
  • fishgutzy
    fishgutzy Posts: 2,807 Member
    Options
    In my adult life I have been anywhere from 155 pounds (due to bulimia) to 310#. Only when I weighed 155# did anyone think I was skinny. I'm 6'.
  • nooshi713
    nooshi713 Posts: 4,877 Member
    Options
    Many people have told me that I looked great at 5'0" 130 lbs but I think it is a bit heavy.