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While you are on antibiotics or soon after you finish them you may find it helps to take some prebiotics to replace and support your digestive microbes which have been displaced by the H-pylori or removed along with it by the antibiotics. I think there are several possible products on the market. These things have helped me in the past, a simple search should give you a better idea what to look for. Also if your endocrine system is under par for yourself this can tilt things to encourage H-pylori. If you can work on getting your vit d up to better levels too you will feel much better in yourself. All the best you will soon be back on good form. Then take it, one day at a time, they will build up into renewed good habits.

Everyonelies wrote: »

chrir2580 wrote: »

You can do it one decision at a time. I try to follow 80/20 rule

what's that?

80/20 rule can be used as a guideline in balancing calories, 80% of calories from healthy, nutritious foods and 20% from "treats".

Hi, Everyonelies - I first used antibiotics as a child for tonsillitis, so I very much did as I was told, because it was good for me, this was back in the 1950's. With continued throat problems my antibiotic consumption continued on and off over years. It was when I hit my 30/40's I developed all sorts of irritating issues not least not being able to eat certain foods and reacting to normal everyday chemicals like laundry residue and the glue my kids used for their plastic kits! I've not looked back since I first started using digestive microbes.

There is a seldom considered link between tonsillitis - poor lymphatic function and our endocrine system. We are complex beings and no two people will have the same responses though there can be similarities/overlaps. Eventually I started working with a BANT registered Nutritionist here in the UK.

I needed to do quite a bit of research to discover a product which did not contain, salicylate - plant defence mechanism against moulds and mildews, as well as something which would not increase my natural production of histamines, I was in a very sorry state. I know when I used my first pack, ones designed to take with or after antibiotics, I felt so much more comfortable generally. (By that time I'd not used antibiotics for years). I've gone on to use these microbes and others in the histamine safe range on and off over the last 2 years, to keep my levels stronger, things are so much easier. Its virtually impossible to overdose in these beneficial microbes, it would be expensive to even try.

The company I've turned to say some of us may benefit from using more than one product in tandem where the microbes are different for different situation which personally apply, for instance ones for immunity, travel, women's health, there are more combinations possible. I recollect there are some to combat the over production of cholesterol. To pick up on the women's health product, so many of us have or have had repeated outbreaks of "thrush" in various places, its well worth giving such a product a try, doing so will probably improve one's well being. (I rely on products which do not require refrigeration, some do some do not)

There have been mutterings over here about the damage use and over use of/reliance on antibiotics can do to a persons microbiome and more for a long time. Now international over use is being shown to change detrimental microbes themselves causing antibiotic resistance in some.

I know there are many on here who decry those of us who promote the use of these supplements, always using the woo button when they see anything I write, which is fine, I really hope they never develop issues similar to mine. There is increasing discussion over here on the topic of our microbiome and the extent to which it helps or hinders, if compromised, our health and lack of it. (I was told by an eminent Professor in Immunology, that I and people like me have issues at the edge of medical understanding, heartening and dispiriting at one in the same time)

I have an interest in all things naturally scientific, nurtured by our British, free to air, science orientated media output about the natural world, mental health and general health/medicine, even one called "the Food programme" and the talk is often of our digestive microbes and their influence over our bodies. It was from one programme about the natural world, I understood how and why I reacted to salicylate.

Now in the last year or so this information on the microbiome is being picked up in some of our Universities and Medical Schools, as interests. Things in medicine may be changing here though it will be some time before the impacts of our digestive biome is fully understood. One day NICE which says what is good practice for us through the NHS, will not be on the back foot. Digestive Microbes are a large and growing sphere of reference.

Mostly, do your own reading, Do what is right for You, no one else matters when it comes to becoming and staying healthy.

The 80/20 rule is a great one to follow in many areas of life! Thanks for reminding me of it again