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Is milk bad for you??
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Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
You've obviously never seen a grown cat nursing when their momma cat has new kittens. As long as momma cat lets them, big old grown cats will happily nurse away.4 -
I have learned that it depends on the milk if its organic grass feed i wont get sick. If its not then it will be coming out of me as soon as i ingest it.6
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Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Cats love it as well as most dogs. Put a bowl of water next to a bowl of milk as see which one the cat picks.
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We're also the only animals which drive cars, use computers, cook our food, exchange currency, have a recorded written language, and a million other things. To my knowledge, we're the only animals that make tacos and pizza too. Of what relevance is any of that?Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy.
Because the mass milking of human females would be frowned upon?Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?11 -
Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Because modern humans have specifically evolved to drink animal milk. Lactase persistence was enough of an advantage to our ancestors that it evolved independently on multiple occasions.
A good percentage, but not ALL.
I can tolerate milk and dairy, but many people I know cannot, except on a very limited basis. Depends on the pre-historic happenings in various cultures. And interestingly enough, some people descended from milk drinkers... cannot always deal with lactose.
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Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Because modern humans have specifically evolved to drink animal milk. Lactase persistence was enough of an advantage to our ancestors that it evolved independently on multiple occasions.
A good percentage, but not ALL.
I can tolerate milk and dairy, but many people I know cannot, except on a very limited basis. Depends on the pre-historic happenings in various cultures. And interestingly enough, some people descended from milk drinkers... cannot always deal with lactose.
And some people have various food allergies/intolerances as well - peanuts, gluten, eggs, shellfish, soy, etc. So does that mean that those foods are worthless for the rest of society which is not allergic/intolerant to them, or should they wisely be avoided by those with intolerances/allergies to them and everybody else can continue to eat them?8 -
Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Because modern humans have specifically evolved to drink animal milk. Lactase persistence was enough of an advantage to our ancestors that it evolved independently on multiple occasions.
Ok So why is 65% of the population lactose intolerant?
Well, I would say that the 35% of the population that is tolerant will have a real edge in the post-apocalypse world where it's either digest animal milk or die of malnutrition...9 -
Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Because modern humans have specifically evolved to drink animal milk. Lactase persistence was enough of an advantage to our ancestors that it evolved independently on multiple occasions.
Ok So why is 65% of the population lactose intolerant?
65% of which population?? The world population??
Not sure what the figure is but it could easily be 65%.
Because most Asian people are lactose intolerant and there are more Asian people in the world than any other racial group.
And lactose tolerance was a genetic anomaly which was an advantage in countries where animal milk was available, usually cold european countries.
Natural selection at work - an advantageous genetic difference over time becomes more widespread in that population.
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Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Seriously, have you tried it? Cow's milk tastes better IMHO.4 -
But I do think it is a food that is not a necessary part of one's diet, even if one can digest it past infancy.
I agree. Past infancy where humans, like all mammals, need mothers milk ( or a formula substitute).
After that it is not a neccesary food and many people in the world manage without it.
But then, no individual food item is a neccesary part of one's diet - there is no single food that provides required nutrients that cannot be sourced instead by other foods.
Not sure point of statement
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Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy. Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
Availability and cultural norms ( the first probably leads to the second) are why we in the western world use cows milk.
I'm sure other cultures in other parts of the world drink sheep, goats, camel, deer milk.
And I do remember reading about cultures which did give expressed human milk to elderly sick people.
Not our cultural norm but probably beneficial, especially in traditional hunter gatherer societies where Sustagen etc not available and food storage limited by nomadic living.
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paperpudding wrote: »But I do think it is a food that is not a necessary part of one's diet, even if one can digest it past infancy.
I agree. Past infancy where humans, like all mammals, need mothers milk ( or a formula substitute).
After that it is not a neccesary food and many people in the world manage without it.
But then, no individual food item is a neccesary part of one's diet - there is no single food that provides required nutrients that cannot be sourced instead by other foods.
Not sure point of statement
Coffee. Coffee is a necessary part of my diet.15 -
paperpudding wrote: »But I do think it is a food that is not a necessary part of one's diet, even if one can digest it past infancy.
I agree. Past infancy where humans, like all mammals, need mothers milk ( or a formula substitute).
After that it is not a neccesary food and many people in the world manage without it.
But then, no individual food item is a neccesary part of one's diet - there is no single food that provides required nutrients that cannot be sourced instead by other foods.
Not sure point of statement
Coffee. Coffee is a necessary part of my diet.
<nods>
And I don't believe any other animals brew coffee. So my coffee with milk is clearly an abomination of nature. And the elixir of being. Life is complicated.11 -
If milk is bad for me I have a real problem , because I love it & drink it regularly - whole milk with all the fat1
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We're also the only animals which drive cars, use computers, cook our food, exchange currency, have a recorded written language, and a million other things. To my knowledge, we're the only animals that make tacos and pizza too. Of what relevance is any of that?Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy.
Because the mass milking of human females would be frowned upon?Howard_M_Burgerz wrote: »Beyond availability..Why would we drink cow's milk instead of human milk?
I don't know, I can see men lining up to handle that job.... the women on the other hand...1 -
Is milk bad for me? No. For me, it's a handy inexpensive source of nutrition, tastes good, and is an essential part of my morning coffee ritual. Since I'm not vegan, lactose/dairy intolerant, or philosophically opposed to its consumption, it's great for me.
Is milk bad for you? How in the heck would I know?4 -
My mom doesn't drink skim milk because, on the farm where she grew up, skim milk was hog feed.
It's a ridiculous and fatally flawed argument right from the start. We're the only species who does a lot of things, many of which are "unnatural". And there are plenty of other animals who will gladly drink milk if it's offered to them....I don't like the argument that "it's unnatural" and "we're the only species who drinks milk into adulthood" and "we're the only species who drinks another animals milk" because I don't base my diet on what other animals are eating.
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