Another why can't I lose weight thread
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For September 1 to 30 your Calories (as logged) by macros were 1737 a day.
26.50% Carbs, or 115g, 50.37% fats or 97g, 23.12% or 100g Protein.
Cholesterol was 679, sodium 1784, sugar 30g, and fiber 10g.
My first though is that you ought to be constipated, but hey, that's probably on me ;-)
My second thought is that depending on your activity level this looks like fairly low carb to me. Which makes the low sodium, especially if you sweat at work and while exercising a bit of a question.
as a 5ft 7" 48yo, I lost a lot of weight while *eating* over 2560 Cal a day. I was more than MFP's "very active" setting mainly because of walking just under 19000 steps on average during each day.
You seem to be giving no thought to the fact that by definition being on your feet all day means that you are NOT sedentary.
In fact, working in small kitchen for 4 to 6 hours would make you active. Working in a large kitchen for more than that? I think that the previous suggestion of very active would apply.
In any case.
Manipulate your carbs as per refeeds thread and perhaps time them with activity.
Looking at some of your logged days... they appear to be very limited as to total food eaten. You may want to quickly review your national food recommendations for veggies, fruits, grains, etc.
Protein at 100g is also low for a male who weighs 200+ lbs and has more than 170lbs of lean mass (based on numbers I saw further up).
In the three days I looked at in more detail I saw the logging of Mayo, but I didn't see any other oils logged during cooking (they might be inside the recipe). As a chef it is likely you use oil/butter during cooking so you should make sure to log the proportion you're eating.
Also surprised at low sodium as most commercial chefs tend to use a lot of seasoning.
I am mixed. at the back of my mind there is the bit that says that you MAY be making logging errors; but, I think it is extremely likely that between relatively low carb and large deficit you're in a state of appetite suppression that ends with bodily slow down and malnutrition or bingeing when you hit a certain spot.
If you're 20% body fat, 2lbs a week is too much. Your deficit should not be exceeding 20% of your daily tdee. Your TDEE is probably north of 3000 Cal a day which means that a deficit eating target would still be in the 2500 range.
I would read through refeeds/diet break carefully. And would review and double check my logging practices just to be sure.
Outliers DO exist -- it is not impossible. Just un-common. More common on MFP because it stands to reason that outliers may be looking for solutions. STILL.
Oh. And use a trending weight app. Check that your scale has fresh batteries. Make sure it is on the same/unyielding piece of flooring. Make sure you weight wearing the same/not wearing the same clothes and under similar conditions (e.g. after using the washroom and before eating or drinking).
Thanks for your input I appreciate it3 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I eat at a deficit of between 500 and 800 a day I weigh my food monitor everything to the last miligram
I strength train 3 to 4 times a week I do pushups dips and walking 6 days a week
I have lost 20lbs before joining mfp and have lost another 33 lbs since
For the past 3 months I can't seem to drop any more I'm at 5.11 215lbs 32 year old male at a rough guess 20% bf
Very active I get up at 8 am and don't sit down until 9pm
On my feet all day there are no liquid calories that I don't log
Any input would be appreciatedLifterofheavystuff wrote: »Jerome im calorie budget is 2100 I eat at 1200 to 1600 30c40f40p
Workout I log is in my first post
I'm 5" shorter, 20 years older, and female. As weight would be flying off me at 1200 calories, and I do lose weight while netting @ 1600, I suspect logging issues.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I eat at a deficit of between 500 and 800 a day I weigh my food monitor everything to the last miligram
I strength train 3 to 4 times a week I do pushups dips and walking 6 days a week
I have lost 20lbs before joining mfp and have lost another 33 lbs since
For the past 3 months I can't seem to drop any more I'm at 5.11 215lbs 32 year old male at a rough guess 20% bf
Very active I get up at 8 am and don't sit down until 9pm
On my feet all day there are no liquid calories that I don't log
Any input would be appreciatedLifterofheavystuff wrote: »Jerome im calorie budget is 2100 I eat at 1200 to 1600 30c40f40p
Workout I log is in my first post
I'm 5" shorter, 20 years older, and female. As weight would be flying off me at 1200 calories, and I do lose weight while netting @ 1600, I suspect logging issues.
I agree I must definetly be logging wrong as others have posted my grams and cups are all over the place
Fresh start in the morning and start weighing out properly with the scales and increase my calories13 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I eat at a deficit of between 500 and 800 a day I weigh my food monitor everything to the last miligram
I strength train 3 to 4 times a week I do pushups dips and walking 6 days a week
I have lost 20lbs before joining mfp and have lost another 33 lbs since
For the past 3 months I can't seem to drop any more I'm at 5.11 215lbs 32 year old male at a rough guess 20% bf
Very active I get up at 8 am and don't sit down until 9pm
On my feet all day there are no liquid calories that I don't log
Any input would be appreciatedLifterofheavystuff wrote: »Jerome im calorie budget is 2100 I eat at 1200 to 1600 30c40f40p
Workout I log is in my first post
I'm 5" shorter, 20 years older, and female. As weight would be flying off me at 1200 calories, and I do lose weight while netting @ 1600, I suspect logging issues.
I agree I must definetly be logging wrong as others have posted my grams and cups are all over the place
Fresh start in the morning and start weighing out properly with the scales and increase my calories
You just told me you weren't mis-measuring, but now you say you are. You are eating more than you think you are or you have a metabolic disorder. If that's the case, you should be seeing a doctor rather than seeking advice on the Internet.12 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I eat at a deficit of between 500 and 800 a day I weigh my food monitor everything to the last miligram
I strength train 3 to 4 times a week I do pushups dips and walking 6 days a week
I have lost 20lbs before joining mfp and have lost another 33 lbs since
For the past 3 months I can't seem to drop any more I'm at 5.11 215lbs 32 year old male at a rough guess 20% bf
Very active I get up at 8 am and don't sit down until 9pm
On my feet all day there are no liquid calories that I don't log
Any input would be appreciatedLifterofheavystuff wrote: »Jerome im calorie budget is 2100 I eat at 1200 to 1600 30c40f40p
Workout I log is in my first post
I'm 5" shorter, 20 years older, and female. As weight would be flying off me at 1200 calories, and I do lose weight while netting @ 1600, I suspect logging issues.
I agree I must definetly be logging wrong as others have posted my grams and cups are all over the place
Fresh start in the morning and start weighing out properly with the scales and increase my calories
You just told me you weren't mis-measuring, but now you say you are. You are eating more than you think you are or you have a metabolic disorder. If that's the case, you should be seeing a doctor rather than seeking advice on the Internet.
I thought I was measuring every thing right but looking at what people are saying I must be doing things wrong cups instead of grams etc
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Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »Jerome im calorie budget is 2100 I eat at 1200 to 1600 30c40f40p
30+40+40=110
by logging you're closer to 27/50/23
you're not meeting minimum guidelines for fiber for males. For a larger person who potentially sweats your sodium appears low (you might be throwing salt on food and not logging, or using incomplete entries, so that might not apply)
you're meeting RDA for protein however it is often been seen in studies that 2x RDA protein is better for lean mass preservation especially in a deficit.
paper deficit is too large. larger deficit = larger possibility of mental and physical side effects
If your muscles are in pain... you are retaining water.5 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »fitoverfortymom wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I eat at a deficit of between 500 and 800 a day I weigh my food monitor everything to the last miligram
I strength train 3 to 4 times a week I do pushups dips and walking 6 days a week
I have lost 20lbs before joining mfp and have lost another 33 lbs since
For the past 3 months I can't seem to drop any more I'm at 5.11 215lbs 32 year old male at a rough guess 20% bf
Very active I get up at 8 am and don't sit down until 9pm
On my feet all day there are no liquid calories that I don't log
Any input would be appreciatedLifterofheavystuff wrote: »Jerome im calorie budget is 2100 I eat at 1200 to 1600 30c40f40p
Workout I log is in my first post
I'm 5" shorter, 20 years older, and female. As weight would be flying off me at 1200 calories, and I do lose weight while netting @ 1600, I suspect logging issues.
I agree I must definetly be logging wrong as others have posted my grams and cups are all over the place
Fresh start in the morning and start weighing out properly with the scales and increase my calories
You just told me you weren't mis-measuring, but now you say you are. You are eating more than you think you are or you have a metabolic disorder. If that's the case, you should be seeing a doctor rather than seeking advice on the Internet.
I thought I was measuring every thing right but looking at what people are saying I must be doing things wrong cups instead of grams etc
Has this been linked yet?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p18 -
One thing that I don't think has been asked yet (I'm not going to reread, cuz lazy): are you sampling as you cook? I know it can be important to make sure the food is good, but depending on where you work, that may not be a thing.8
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nutmegoreo wrote: »One thing that I don't think has been asked yet (I'm not going to reread, cuz lazy): are you sampling as you cook? I know it can be important to make sure the food is good, but depending on where you work, that may not be a thing.
given the profession that could be extremely important in terms of total calories and can easily be done without even thinking about.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »One thing that I don't think has been asked yet (I'm not going to reread, cuz lazy): are you sampling as you cook? I know it can be important to make sure the food is good, but depending on where you work, that may not be a thing.
given the profession that could be extremely important in terms of total calories and can easily be done without even thinking about.
I do not work as a chef anymore yes I am a qualified chef but I done a major career change 10 years ago I now work self employed as a panel beater and spray painter2 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »One thing that I don't think has been asked yet (I'm not going to reread, cuz lazy): are you sampling as you cook? I know it can be important to make sure the food is good, but depending on where you work, that may not be a thing.
given the profession that could be extremely important in terms of total calories and can easily be done without even thinking about.
I do not work as a chef anymore yes I am a qualified chef but I done a major career change 10 years ago I now work self employed as a panel beater and spray painter
Well, them my last question was irrelevant. I think there are a few things going on. I gave some ideas of where I think your logging could be improved on the first page. At the very least give it a full week or two of weighing everything that solid or semisolid and find entries that match the foods. For whole foods (broccoli, chicken) enter USDA into the search bar along with item, it should give you more accurate entries. Meats are better weighed before cooking, but regardless of which way you weigh it, make sure the entry you used indicates raw or cooked (and the type of cooking: steamed, pan fried, etc.). I know it sounds OTT, but you might be surprised. And read through the refeed thread (if you haven't yet). The answers are there, you just need to dig into them a little further.6 -
Listen to pav888. I wish I knew what I knew now. I did not eat enough. I got lean as hell, but came with a whole mixed bag of issues. Testosterone tanked, appetite issues. Trust me, when you hit a certain b, your appetite comes roaring back. Blood sugar drop outs, I still have them at times. I am actually having to regain weight just to feel, well half normal. Take your time. Pav, pinup, quick silver just to name a few know their kitten. Best of luck my man.12
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Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »One thing that I don't think has been asked yet (I'm not going to reread, cuz lazy): are you sampling as you cook? I know it can be important to make sure the food is good, but depending on where you work, that may not be a thing.
given the profession that could be extremely important in terms of total calories and can easily be done without even thinking about.
I do not work as a chef anymore yes I am a qualified chef but I done a major career change 10 years ago I now work self employed as a panel beater and spray painter
Not sure what beating panels involves; but spraying paint involves swinging a bit of a weight for a few hours at a time... making you at an absolute minimum active... not counting deliberate exercise on top. based on the 1.8x multiplier MFP uses for very active, i would have thought very active as a safe bet; and I don't see how I could justify lower than active.4 -
Thanks for all the help everyone I really do appreciate it
Fresh start in the morning9 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I am fairly meticulous with my logging I know what I am logging and I am a chef by trade but now I am thinking am I putting myself into starvation mode by not actually eating enough
Are you sure you're using correct entries in the database? Stuff changes over time and there is a lot of incorrect stuff in there.5 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I can not physically eat over 2000 calories a day I don't even understand how someone can eat that much without living on pizza and icecream
This has worked for me losing weight but has come to a standstill
I weigh everything I eat and log everything as accurate as possible look at my diary if anyone has suggestions of what to change or add to
To me, this is a bit of a 'tell'. Of course you can physically eat over 2000 calories a day. I know this because if you couldn't eat that much you wouldn't be needing to lose weight now. It leads me to wonder if you are just not acknowledging what you eat or just don't accurately account for what you eat.
In any event, you've been presented with any number of interesting theories about weight loss. Here's a simple fact: if you're not losing weight you'll need to eat less. Keeping in mind, of course, that simple isn't always easy.9 -
You mentioned you are a chef by trade. How often do you taste what you are cooking? Those calories can add up amazingly fast!3
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jennifer_417 wrote: »You mentioned you are a chef by trade. How often do you taste what you are cooking? Those calories can add up amazingly fast!
he no longer chefs. He has been doing construction work.0 -
Something that seems to have worked out for me when logging entries that require estimation is to approach it slightly pessimistically.
The diary entries in the database can vary wildly and it's so tempting to select the '25cals per slice' entry than the '100cals per slice' so that your numbers look good. To combat this and also counter the human tendency to inaccurately estimate in our favour (i.e. we tend to under estimate food portion size and calorie content and over estimate exercise and activity calorie output), I'd pick an entry that was towards the 'bad' end of the scale figuring that if I was gonna be wrong I'd rather be wrong in the direction that was gonna help me lose weight.7 -
Something that seems to have worked out for me when logging entries that require estimation is to approach it slightly pessimistically.
The diary entries in the database can vary wildly and it's so tempting to select the '25cals per slice' entry than the '100cals per slice' so that your numbers look good. To combat this and also counter the human tendency to inaccurately estimate in our favour (i.e. we tend to under estimate food portion size and calorie content and over estimate exercise and activity calorie output), I'd pick an entry that was towards the 'bad' end of the scale figuring that if I was gonna be wrong I'd rather be wrong in the direction that was gonna help me lose weight.
I actually do that some times aswell if I can't find something accurate I over add it instead of picking the smaller number the same goes for exercise I put in the lower number1 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »You mentioned you are a chef by trade. How often do you taste what you are cooking? Those calories can add up amazingly fast!
he no longer chefs. He has been doing construction work.
Not construction I am the man you go to when you crash your car or when you buy an old rusted vintage car and want it restored4 -
Amazing how wrong I was with my logging after starting fresh today I can see it is very obvious I was not logging properly
Thank you all very much for your help36 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »Amazing how wrong I was with my logging after starting fresh today I can see it is very obvious I was not logging properly
Thank you all very much for your help
I love it when someone sees the light
All the best 7 -
LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »Amazing how wrong I was with my logging after starting fresh today I can see it is very obvious I was not logging properly
Thank you all very much for your help
I love it when someone sees the light
All the best
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cmriverside wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »No I am 5.11 mfp gives me 2100 to work with so I eat at a deficit to that to lose weight I still have about 30 lbs to lose to be at a healthy weight for my height
https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/en/portal/articles/410332-how-does-myfitnesspal-calculate-my-initial-goals-
MFP, this poster is a prime example of why this information needs to be front and center both when people sign up and each time they go back to update their diet & fitness profile, as well as guidance on how to choose the proper weekly weight loss goal.
From the number of users I see with this same misunderstanding, you are probably correct. But I have trouble understanding the confusion. It's (to me) perfectly clear that the deficit is built in, and was from the very first time I filled in my profile. Short of a flashing red banner, I'm not sure what they'd do.
It was clear to me too. But it seems silly that a new one would have to go hunt for such basic info.
Flashing red banner sounds good
I wish they'd do the flashing red banner for recommended rate of loss based on user stats. That's my personal MFP pet peeve
Yes!
Way back when I was logging 3-4lb lost a week I would get messages asking how as they want to lose that too....... Umm I was 400lb and those asking were mainly under 150lb12 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »I can not physically eat over 2000 calories a day I don't even understand how someone can eat that much without living on pizza and icecream
How did you get to the point of needing to lose weight if you can't eat that much food? I guy with your stats would burn close to 2000 calories a day in a coma, much less walking around.
It's super easy to eat more than 2000 calories a day. Have some nuts. A peanut butter sandwich. Cheese.5 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »Amazing how wrong I was with my logging after starting fresh today I can see it is very obvious I was not logging properly
Thank you all very much for your help
Yay! At least it was an easy fix. 5 -
Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »Amazing how wrong I was with my logging after starting fresh today I can see it is very obvious I was not logging properly
Thank you all very much for your help
This was a fun read with a happy ending!6 -
Asher_Ethan wrote: »Lifterofheavystuff wrote: »Amazing how wrong I was with my logging after starting fresh today I can see it is very obvious I was not logging properly
Thank you all very much for your help
This was a fun read with a
What better way to pass away some time lol0
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