Nausea, feeling ill - down 40 lbs in 79 days.

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mph323 wrote: »

Without knowing anything else about you and your activity, I can tell you you're not eating enough to fuel your body. It's nothing to do with toxins, you're losing weight too quickly, and it's caught up with you. Have you put your stats into MFP and taken a look at your calorie goal? Unless you're quite heavy, your rate of loss should be under 2 pounds a week. Are you eating back your exercise calories? That's important too. If you tell us your age, height, current weight and goal weight we can help you figure out how to make sure you're losing weight in a healthy and sustainable way.

Yes, I'd like the answers to all these questions as well.

Without this info, it's quite likely that you're not feeling well because you are undereating and losing weight too fast.

What Are the Risks of Rapid Weight Loss?

Rapid weight loss creates physical demands on the body. Possible serious risks include:

• Gallstones, which occur in 12% to 25% of people losing large amounts of weight over several months
• Dehydration, which can be avoided by drinking plenty of fluids
• Malnutrition, usually from not eating enough protein for weeks at a time
• Electrolyte imbalances, which rarely can be life threatening

Other side effects of rapid weight loss include:

• Headaches
• Irritability
• Fatigue
• Dizziness
• Constipation
• Menstrual irregularities
• Hair loss
• Muscle loss

adamyovanovich wrote: »

I just changed my Goals, to lightly active, which puts me at 2250 for daily calories, most days im around 1800, Ill make sure to hit 2000.

You should be eating all 2250 calories. MFP calculates your deficit into the calories it gives you, so make sure you eat them all!. If you don't feel better within a few weeks, try upping them again, maybe by 100 or so every week until you do feel better. Best of luck!

Incredibly similar story except I quit drinking before starting to lose. BTW, it will get easier - day 475. I also drank a lot of calories and would binge eat, polishing off a bowl of ice cream and a few oreos while waiting for the cheese to melt and then cool a little on my chips in the toaster oven. I also went overboard at pretty much the same rate; I lost 32 pounds in 65 days before posting here and after arguing with people for a while and getting threads shut down for advocating unsafe weight loss, I finally started following some of the links and reading some of the concerns. They are legit. If you are like me, and based on your story you are a lot like me, this is about turning your life around and being healthy and there is a big concern that if you don't make it happen as quickly as possible that you will slide right back into old habits.

It turns out that doing it really quickly makes failure more likely , not less. You need to know how to eat to maintain it when you get there and you need the energy to start being active. Try to get into some activities where you meet some new people that don't have your old habits; meet ups for cycling, hiking, paddling, etc. I am into SUP paddling big time now and have a new social circle to do stuff with besides getting trashed.

My labs were all awesome also, which is one of the reasons I didn't believe people at first. But they don't measure where the weight loss is coming from when you drop too fast. They don't measure adaptive thermogenesis (starvation mode is a myth, but AT isn't). They don't pick up decline in organ function until they cross into territory you don't want to get into.

if you switch to healthier eating habits and slowly increase portions as you appeoach goal, it is much easier to adjust to maintenance. It's been about 7.5 months since I hit goal and I still have to monitor my intake, but this is working.

It's worth doing right.

dgabbies wrote: »

Congrats! Change is difficult mentally & physically. There’s new research (scientific based not based on associative animal testing) around feast & fast cycles and our human circadian rhythm (similar to sleep rhythm but nutrition related) that may help.

A great audio book (or paper) that gets into the human studies/results (and tons of a’ha! moments) is by Dr Fung called The Obesity Code. For shorter 5-10 min reads, Dr Fung is also on the app “Medium” and gets into body set rate monitor, carbs & insulin, hormonal responses to diet, etc. all impact mental clarity and energy, and sometimes need extra TLC after periods of over indulging.

Long story short, could be what/when you’re eating (or not eating) that’s draining you, not just the actual calories in/out. Low electrolytes, insulin rushes, etc can give you nausea or flu like aches & headaches especially combined with detoxing body of alcohol or other indulgences. With age and frequent indulgences, we don’t bounce back as easily or quickly. Good luck!!

Dr. Fung is a quack. There's no reason to complicate OPs life with random restrictions and bogus scare tactics involving insulin and eating windows.

CarvedTones wrote: »

Incredibly similar story except I quit drinking before starting to lose. BTW, it will get easier - day 475. I also drank a lot of calories and would binge eat, polishing off a bowl of ice cream and a few oreos while waiting for the cheese to melt and then cool a little on my chips in the toaster oven. I also went overboard at pretty much the same rate; I lost 32 pounds in 65 days before posting here and after arguing with people for a while and getting threads shut down for advocating unsafe weight loss, I finally started following some of the links and reading some of the concerns. They are legit. If you are like me, and based on your story you are a lot like me, this is about turning your life around and being healthy and there is a big concern that if you don't make it happen as quickly as possible that you will slide right back into old habits.

It turns out that doing it really quickly makes failure more likely , not less. You need to know how to eat to maintain it when you get there and you need the energy to start being active. Try to get into some activities where you meet some new people that don't have your old habits; meet ups for cycling, hiking, paddling, etc. I am into SUP paddling big time now and have a new social circle to do stuff with besides getting trashed.

My labs were all awesome also, which is one of the reasons I didn't believe people at first. But they don't measure where the weight loss is coming from when you drop too fast. They don't measure adaptive thermogenesis (starvation mode is a myth, but AT isn't). They don't pick up decline in organ function until they cross into territory you don't want to get into.

if you switch to healthier eating habits and slowly increase portions as you appeoach goal, it is much easier to adjust to maintenance. It's been about 7.5 months since I hit goal and I still have to monitor my intake, but this is working.

It's worth doing right.

I can vouch for everything that @CarvedTones said.

As a data point how much you're eating means ZIP-NOTHING-NADA... your rate of loss tells us all we need to know about the deficit you're achieving.... and your rate of loss reflects a deficit of approximately 1750 Calories a day.

If you're eating 2000 on average, based on your rate of loss you're spending 3750 on average (TDEE=3750) which is quite likely at your current weight.

While it CAN be argued that 1% loss of body-weight per week is not unsafe; there is a difference between unsafe and the best option for YOU.

And I don't think that anyone can argue against the fact that if 1% is not too unsafe, a range of 0.5% to 0.8% of your body-weight a week is even safer.

The argument with slower weight loss becomes whether it is de-motivating for the person undertaking the exercise.

However feeling low energy and dizzy is, in my opinion, MORE de-motivating than feeling full of energy and losing weight slower...

plus all the stuff @CarvedTones mentions including setting yourself up for maintenance and the even bigger one which is giving yourself a long enough time while you're losing to embed some of these new behaviours and ways of living into your daily existence.

In any case, a 25% deficit while obese (20% deficit while overweight or normal weight) has much fewer side effects than the 47% deficit you're attempting as evidenced by your current weight loss.

Based on your results I would suggest sticking to a 2lb a week goal deficit right now (1000 Cal a day is just over 25% deficit and would have you eating 2750 Cal a day or so).

And reducing the deficit to 750 Cal and 500 Cal down the road.

And no, you don't have to gradually increase to that level... you can do it immediately and without major issues and there is no benefit in a prolonged slow increase at this stage of the game.

In fact you should NOT be afraid to have days of smaller deficits... the accumulated deficit over time is what will help you lose fat and you don't need to be pushing 100% every day. You DO need to be pushing for finding SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS / OPTIONS for yourself that you keep at once you've lost the weight.

Experimenting is your friend and experiments sometimes fail. The benefit of having the deficit target is that you can quickly get back on track.

You may also want to start inputting your weight into a weight trend application or web site (I use trendweight.com, libra for android, happy scale for iphone are other ones people use).

if you find the motivation, lifting some weights or even body-weight strength training exercises would be good things to do ;-)

You mentioned a 7-hr gap between lunch and dinner. That would leave me dizzy and nauseous all by itself.

countcurt wrote: »

Actually, at your weight, the rate of loss is not overly excessive. I’d hazard a guess that there was a lot of loss in the first couple of weeks related to water weight. But your loss appears to be about 1% of body weight per week, on average.

Your arithmetic is off by nearly 25%. OP has averaged close to 4 lbs per week loss and is now just over 300 lbs.

And lack of energy is far more likely to be about calories (aka energy than about types of food or meal timing. Horses, not zebras.

Eat at maintenance for a few weeks and see how you feel. I get dizzy, tired, and overall feel like crap when my calories get too low. BP and HR drop also. I would have urges to eat everything in site. I realized my body didn't do well on 2000 calories. I bumped up to 2400 calories and haven't had this problem since.

Losing a half pound a day is aggressive to sustain. Do you use an activity tracker?