Nausea, feeling ill - down 40 lbs in 79 days.
adamyovanovich
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So, i recently quit drinking alcohol, about 45 days ago. When i drank i drank a lot of calories and binge ate. When i don't drink my diet is really good, i stick around 1800-2000 calories a day. Sometimes around dinner i feel like crap, dizzy, nausea, ill. And today this morning i feel the same, no energy, blech....
I have lost 40 lbs in 79 days of dieting, and i am in no way starving myself.
Im wanting to know if anyone else has had this, is it the calorie intake, toxins releasing into my blood stream or anything else.?
I had blood work at the doctor and he said i am healthy, good bp, cholesterol, no other issues.
I have lost 40 lbs in 79 days of dieting, and i am in no way starving myself.
Im wanting to know if anyone else has had this, is it the calorie intake, toxins releasing into my blood stream or anything else.?
I had blood work at the doctor and he said i am healthy, good bp, cholesterol, no other issues.
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Without knowing anything else about you and your activity, I can tell you you're not eating enough to fuel your body. It's nothing to do with toxins, you're losing weight too quickly, and it's caught up with you. Have you put your stats into MFP and taken a look at your calorie goal? Unless you're quite heavy, your rate of loss should be under 2 pounds a week. Are you eating back your exercise calories? That's important too. If you tell us your age, height, current weight and goal weight we can help you figure out how to make sure you're losing weight in a healthy and sustainable way.24
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Without knowing anything else about you and your activity, I can tell you you're not eating enough to fuel your body. It's nothing to do with toxins, you're losing weight too quickly, and it's caught up with you. Have you put your stats into MFP and taken a look at your calorie goal? Unless you're quite heavy, your rate of loss should be under 2 pounds a week. Are you eating back your exercise calories? That's important too. If you tell us your age, height, current weight and goal weight we can help you figure out how to make sure you're losing weight in a healthy and sustainable way.
Yes, I'd like the answers to all these questions as well.
Without this info, it's quite likely that you're not feeling well because you are undereating and losing weight too fast.
What Are the Risks of Rapid Weight Loss?
Rapid weight loss creates physical demands on the body. Possible serious risks include:- Gallstones, which occur in 12% to 25% of people losing large amounts of weight over several months
- Dehydration, which can be avoided by drinking plenty of fluids
- Malnutrition, usually from not eating enough protein for weeks at a time
- Electrolyte imbalances, which rarely can be life threatening
Other side effects of rapid weight loss include:- Headaches
- Irritability
- Fatigue
- Dizziness
- Constipation
- Menstrual irregularities
- Hair loss
- Muscle loss
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Ps - congrats on quitting drinking! That's a huge positive change.
One tip from my experience - when I stopped being a heavy drinking, I developed an M&M habit, so that's something to watch out for9 -
I am
32 year old
5'8"
310 lbs currently, was 350 79 days ago.
I have an office job, some days i sit all day, some days i do camera installs, so its more activity.
I take the kids swimming 2 days a week, but nothing strenuous, just fun.'
I have dieted in 2016 and lost 60 lbs doing mfp and calorie counting, and i ate 2000 then too, so i know it works. But i quit drinking this time around and there was a ton of calories in that, so maybe 2000 back then plus the drinking calories a few times a week made it better?..
Ill try adding a few hundred to 2200 for a week or two, see if i feel better.4 -
Dumb question. Did you mention your symptoms to your doctor, and the quitting drinking... or just get basic blood work without saying why? It's not necessarily that you are losing too much weight. That can definitely be explained by not having alcohol. But all the other symptoms are worrisome. Did you quit drinking slowly, go through medical detox, or just quit outright? These sound like they could be withdrawal symptoms... (not immediate w/d symptoms obvs. , since it's been a while... But if you were a heavy drinker, your addicted brain is going to be trying a lot of things to get you to drink again, for six to eight weeks. You should notice a decrease in those feelings soon, but if not, definitely return to doc and rule out liver damage.)10
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Yes i told him i had an alcohol problem, i just quit, told him about the diet, and the fatigue, which usually is around dinner. He said to pack in some calories between lunch and dinner, since they are 7 hours apart, which should help. all my blood tests came back great.
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I quit cold turkey, im sure i was fully detoxed in 14 days.5
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It is easy to become depressed and discouraged. I think it is important to fill the void left by ending past habits with great new ones. Something that's almost certain to lift you up is serving others. Check out www.justserve.org for some opportunities near you. I expect you'll be glad you did.2
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marianck1551 wrote: »Dumb question. Did you mention your symptoms to your doctor, and the quitting drinking... or just get basic blood work without saying why? It's not necessarily that you are losing too much weight. That can definitely be explained by not having alcohol. But all the other symptoms are worrisome. Did you quit drinking slowly, go through medical detox, or just quit outright? These sound like they could be withdrawal symptoms...
From his first post - he quit alcohol 45 days ago - acute symptoms would be long gone. He is losing over 3 pounds a week, yes he is losing weight too fast. Unless under a doctor's supervision, 2 pounds a week is the most he should be losing.10 -
I just changed my Goals, to lightly active, which puts me at 2250 for daily calories, most days im around 1800, Ill make sure to hit 2000.12
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adamyovanovich wrote: »I just changed my Goals, to lightly active, which puts me at 2250 for daily calories, most days im around 1800, Ill make sure to hit 2000.
You should be eating all 2250 calories. MFP calculates your deficit into the calories it gives you, so make sure you eat them all!. If you don't feel better within a few weeks, try upping them again, maybe by 100 or so every week until you do feel better. Best of luck!10 -
Thanks for the input, i had done the 2000 before and didnt have the problem, but drank a bunch of calories too, which i never logged, so im guessing even though most where empty calories they still where fuel. I appreciate the feedback and the help. I will up my calories.3
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Incredibly similar story except I quit drinking before starting to lose. BTW, it will get easier - day 475. I also drank a lot of calories and would binge eat, polishing off a bowl of ice cream and a few oreos while waiting for the cheese to melt and then cool a little on my chips in the toaster oven. I also went overboard at pretty much the same rate; I lost 32 pounds in 65 days before posting here and after arguing with people for a while and getting threads shut down for advocating unsafe weight loss, I finally started following some of the links and reading some of the concerns. They are legit. If you are like me, and based on your story you are a lot like me, this is about turning your life around and being healthy and there is a big concern that if you don't make it happen as quickly as possible that you will slide right back into old habits.
It turns out that doing it really quickly makes failure more likely , not less. You need to know how to eat to maintain it when you get there and you need the energy to start being active. Try to get into some activities where you meet some new people that don't have your old habits; meet ups for cycling, hiking, paddling, etc. I am into SUP paddling big time now and have a new social circle to do stuff with besides getting trashed.
My labs were all awesome also, which is one of the reasons I didn't believe people at first. But they don't measure where the weight loss is coming from when you drop too fast. They don't measure adaptive thermogenesis (starvation mode is a myth, but AT isn't). They don't pick up decline in organ function until they cross into territory you don't want to get into.
if you switch to healthier eating habits and slowly increase portions as you appeoach goal, it is much easier to adjust to maintenance. It's been about 7.5 months since I hit goal and I still have to monitor my intake, but this is working.
It's worth doing right.37 -
Actually, at your weight, the rate of loss is not overly excessive. I’d hazard a guess that there was a lot of loss in the first couple of weeks related to water weight. But your loss appears to be about 1% of body weight per week, on average.
As your weight comes down, so should your rate of loss. If you’re content at your current intake level, you may find it will naturally start to slow your rate of loss (as your body weight comes down, so does the number of calories it burns and, therefore, so does the caloric deficit for a given intake).
The energy issue is a different story. Time to examine what you eat, when you eat and what else might be driving your energy levels.6 -
It's possible that 1800-2000 is low, depending on your height/weight, activity level and excersise stats. I'm 270, 6'1, moderately active and with 45-60 minutes of weight training my daily cals are at 2500 even at a 1000 cal deficit.2
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adamyovanovich wrote: »Yes i told him i had an alcohol problem, i just quit, told him about the diet, and the fatigue, which usually is around dinner. He said to pack in some calories between lunch and dinner, since they are 7 hours apart, which should help. all my blood tests came back great.
Sounds like a great idea. Let us know how it goes.6 -
It doesnt happen all the time, just some times. Ill try and keep notes on days i do more activity at work, maybe those are the days i feel ill at dinner time.5
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Congrats! Change is difficult mentally & physically. There’s new research (scientific based not based on associative animal testing) around feast & fast cycles and our human circadian rhythm (similar to sleep rhythm but nutrition related) that may help.
A great audio book (or paper) that gets into the human studies/results (and tons of a’ha! moments) is by Dr Fung called The Obesity Code. For shorter 5-10 min reads, Dr Fung is also on the app “Medium” and gets into body set rate monitor, carbs & insulin, hormonal responses to diet, etc. all impact mental clarity and energy, and sometimes need extra TLC after periods of over indulging.
Long story short, could be what/when you’re eating (or not eating) that’s draining you, not just the actual calories in/out. Low electrolytes, insulin rushes, etc can give you nausea or flu like aches & headaches especially combined with detoxing body of alcohol or other indulgences. With age and frequent indulgences, we don’t bounce back as easily or quickly. Good luck!!40
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