Dark Cloud Of Doom Discussion

youngcaseyr wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

youngcaseyr wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

I think I'd have a big reality check.
Honestly, I think I'd do poorly.

I'm a super picky vegetarian. After all the store rations were gone, assuming I could secure any, I guess I'd be eating grass and hopefully non toxic plants. Eating grass and plants would be a full time job, herbivores in nature basically eat all day long. Plus I'm in Canada, so I guess I'd have to head south for the winter.

I have little to trade, I don't have many possessions, what I did have I suppose I'd have to bring with me for my winter trek.

For real tho, I really can't imagine the levels people may go to in that situation. We are so used to convenience.

Farmers would become the wealthiest. Rich soil farmland would become the most expensive real estate.
...or would they? Is there a problem with the environment that is causing this famine?

Humans can't digest grass

I'd be seriously screwed then!
...wonder what it would take for me to start eating squirrels and bugs?

I'm a vegetarian, too and I've thought about this subject a few times here and there... I think there would have to be a pretty serious lack of consumable plants for me to start eating animals again. In that case, it would be an "extreme survival" type situation and not our comfortable modern society in which we're able to easily find and subsist off of a plant based diet. I think in that case I would have to value my own life and survival above theirs. I wouldn't love it, but if it kept me alive then "it is what it is".

So question for you, as a vegetarian.
In the extreme survival type of situation what would you rather eat?
Animals (which one in particular), insects or humans?

Vikka_V wrote: »

youngcaseyr wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

youngcaseyr wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

I think I'd have a big reality check.
Honestly, I think I'd do poorly.

I'm a super picky vegetarian. After all the store rations were gone, assuming I could secure any, I guess I'd be eating grass and hopefully non toxic plants. Eating grass and plants would be a full time job, herbivores in nature basically eat all day long. Plus I'm in Canada, so I guess I'd have to head south for the winter.

I have little to trade, I don't have many possessions, what I did have I suppose I'd have to bring with me for my winter trek.

For real tho, I really can't imagine the levels people may go to in that situation. We are so used to convenience.

Farmers would become the wealthiest. Rich soil farmland would become the most expensive real estate.
...or would they? Is there a problem with the environment that is causing this famine?

Humans can't digest grass

I'd be seriously screwed then!
...wonder what it would take for me to start eating squirrels and bugs?

I'm a vegetarian, too and I've thought about this subject a few times here and there... I think there would have to be a pretty serious lack of consumable plants for me to start eating animals again. In that case, it would be an "extreme survival" type situation and not our comfortable modern society in which we're able to easily find and subsist off of a plant based diet. I think in that case I would have to value my own life and survival above theirs. I wouldn't love it, but if it kept me alive then "it is what it is".

So question for you, as a vegetarian.
In the extreme survival type of situation what would you rather eat?
Animals (which one in particular), insects or humans?

Why eat any of them! Plenty of protein sources available heck you can eat nuts (even hickory nuts) or mushrooms) for protein. Mushrooms are easy to store or raise. Nuts replenish every year and can be stored. Easy peasy.

I can grow plants, I used to breed meat animals, so assuming I can get some starter stock, I can go back to that...I can harvest things from the forest around me (acorns, kudzu, roots, berries, a few of the wild flowers are edible too)...I haven't ever made a small animal trap, but I do have a book with instructions, so in dire times I bet I would get pretty good at it and there is an abundant number of squirrels and rabbits in the woods...I do own a .22 and I do (in theory) know the kill zones for a deer, though I have never hunted them, I do know how to butcher them when they are dead.

Plus, I know how to make beer and wine and moonshine though I would likely need some additional equipment to do so, those are always highly valued for trade, even if they taste mostly terrible someone will want them.

Also, I know how to sew and make/repair clothing...both by machine and by hand, so another valuable trade skill.

I'm an herbalist and do grow some of my own herbs for teas and such (catnip, feverfew, lemon balm, etc) so that would probably be a valuable skill in a world where there isn't enough food people will get sick and need treatment.

I grew up camping, so I can cook just about anything in a skillet over an open fire, so if the electricity goes, I'm good with it.

I think I would do OK if the world descended into doom.

newmeadow wrote: »

bojack5 wrote: »

newmeadow wrote: »

People would eat sugar, carbs, gluten, animals, grain, Pixie Stix, Twinkies and smoked pork rinds and they would like it. No more food fear or food demonization.

I would eat people, and thrive.

Wouldn't you just start with squirrels and pigeons though and then maybe hop a barge to the South Pole where fish and penguins are plentiful?

No. I have no interest in frigid temps, and one person would feed more than dozebs of pigeons and squirrels.

tinkerhellraiser wrote: »

why does everyone want to live soooo bad in every doomsday scenario like “i would eat roasted cockroaches and use my nun chucks to kill radioactive zombies”
maybe we make peace with deaths inevitable cold grip and exit the worldly plane gracefully with good memories of a life with indoor plumbing and prepackaged snack foods

jeez i explain to to you the importance of having a digging trowel when you're out in the woods ONE time and here we are.

tinkerhellraiser wrote: »

why does everyone want to live soooo bad in every doomsday scenario like “i would eat roasted cockroaches and use my nun chucks to kill radioactive zombies”
maybe we make peace with deaths inevitable cold grip and exit the physical plane gracefully with good memories of a life with indoor plumbing and prepackaged snack foods

I want to be miserable enough to want to lay down and die

I'm guessing a situation like this would limit access to medication, so I'd probably die off in the second wave of deaths, after the oldest, poorest, and sickest go.

Mean_Spice wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

youngcaseyr wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

youngcaseyr wrote: »

Vikka_V wrote: »

I think I'd have a big reality check.
Honestly, I think I'd do poorly.

I'm a super picky vegetarian. After all the store rations were gone, assuming I could secure any, I guess I'd be eating grass and hopefully non toxic plants. Eating grass and plants would be a full time job, herbivores in nature basically eat all day long. Plus I'm in Canada, so I guess I'd have to head south for the winter.

I have little to trade, I don't have many possessions, what I did have I suppose I'd have to bring with me for my winter trek.

For real tho, I really can't imagine the levels people may go to in that situation. We are so used to convenience.

Farmers would become the wealthiest. Rich soil farmland would become the most expensive real estate.
...or would they? Is there a problem with the environment that is causing this famine?

Humans can't digest grass

I'd be seriously screwed then!
...wonder what it would take for me to start eating squirrels and bugs?

I'm a vegetarian, too and I've thought about this subject a few times here and there... I think there would have to be a pretty serious lack of consumable plants for me to start eating animals again. In that case, it would be an "extreme survival" type situation and not our comfortable modern society in which we're able to easily find and subsist off of a plant based diet. I think in that case I would have to value my own life and survival above theirs. I wouldn't love it, but if it kept me alive then "it is what it is".

So question for you, as a vegetarian.
In the extreme survival type of situation what would you rather eat?
Animals (which one in particular), insects or humans?

Why eat any of them! Plenty of protein sources available heck you can eat nuts (even hickory nuts) or mushrooms) for protein. Mushrooms are easy to store or raise. Nuts replenish every year and can be stored. Easy peasy.

I would really need to brush up on my knowledge of edible wild plants, but like I said, there would have to be a pretty serious lack of consumable plants for me to think about eating animals. I love mushrooms but if you don't know your fungi species it can get tricky and dangerous. Nuts and seeds do pack a calorific wallop if you could find them, but a lot of the availability of edible plants in the first place to do with location... I'm lucky enough to live in a state with a lot of foliage and natural sources of potentially potable water, but I've also lived in the beach cities of California and the desert in Texas where, in their current ecological states, it may be harder to find food or clean water. In that case, if we were to assume that a person/group would try to migrate to another place with more resources, they would still need to find sources of subsistence on their journey, however long or short, and may have to take "drastic measures" to ensure their survival until they reach their destination and can return to their preferred (albeit new and perhaps less comfortable, given the doomy circumstances) diet and way of life.