No Carb Diet
amishasingh
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Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
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That doesn't sound pleasant at all. Why no carb bearing in mind fruit and vegetables are carbs and a very good source of micronutrition?17
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No carb? Good luck with meeting many nutritional with no carbs. A diet with pretty much only meat cooked with olive oil doesn't sound like any fun to me, nor sustainable!13
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I do low carb, not no carb and it works for me. My carbs come from green vegetables mostly. Calories are calories but I find that I stay fuller with low carb.9
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amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
You don't need luck.
You need a calorie deficit. In order to lose 1kg per week you also need to have enough fat to lose in the first place, so it's hard to say, given the lack of context whether that amount of weight loss per week is easy, difficult, or impossible.
Removing carbs doesn't guarantee that, but assuming you don't make up all the calories in other areas, you should lose fat. What will you do when you get there? Are you going to go no carb for life? (Trying to get you to think outside of a "diet").
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There are a few people who do zero carbs 'carnivore' diets, but it's extremely limited and restrictive (not to mention expensive). I can't imagine it's sustainable long term for many people, so really what's the point?
In terms of weight loss you don't have to cut back on carbs, you just need the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals.11 -
NO carbs?
No vegetables, no dairy, no nuts and seeds, no beans, no fruit...?
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amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
Your first/only day logged here has sweet tea, fruit, and milk in it. If that's how you plan to continue eating, it is far from no carb. (Nothing wrong with any of those things, incidentally. But they are not 'no carb')22 -
You may want to check out keto, paleo, or other low carb diets. You logged 95 carbs, which isn't a good start. I have a hard time eating enough calories while maintaining a low carb diet, but I manage, with careful planning. Other than meat, there just aren't many no carb foods. You can keep track of fiber and go for low net carbs. (carb grams - fiber grams = net carbs) Even going by net carbs, it is difficult to achieve no carbs, since foods with fiber also contain carbs. I suggest you do more research and plan accordingly. If you have the premium enrollment, which I suspect since your daily calories are set extremely low, you can also keep track of fiber. Losing weight isn't hard, but it takes some planning. Following keto guidelines, I've lost 12kg (27 lb.) in 13 weeks. If you insist on losing quickly, be sure to do strength training to avoid flab. My younger daughter has had even more success, though I'm sure she skips more meals than me. Remember, starving yourself can cause problems, including stalls in weight loss. I suggest you do more research and proceed wisely. I'm praying you proceed and succeed in your weight loss goal in a healthy, educated manner. God bless you!8
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FarmerCarla wrote: »You may want to check out keto, paleo, or other low carb diets. You logged 95 carbs, which isn't a good start. I have a hard time eating enough calories while maintaining a low carb diet, but I manage, with careful planning. Other than meat, there just aren't many no carb foods. You can keep track of fiber and go for low net carbs. (carb grams - fiber grams = net carbs) Even going by net carbs, it is difficult to achieve no carbs, since foods with fiber also contain carbs. I suggest you do more research and plan accordingly. If you have the premium enrollment, which I suspect since your daily calories are set extremely low, you can also keep track of fiber. Losing weight isn't hard, but it takes some planning. Following keto guidelines, I've lost 12kg (27 lb.) in 13 weeks. If you insist on losing quickly, be sure to do strength training to avoid flab. My younger daughter has had even more success, though I'm sure she skips more meals than me. Remember, starving yourself can cause problems, including stalls in weight loss. I suggest you do more research and proceed wisely. I'm praying you proceed and succeed in your weight loss goal in a healthy, educated manner. God bless you!
You can track fiber even on the free account. If you want it to display with your main values, you can swap it for something else (I took out sugar).6 -
Blimey.
I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯14 -
Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?14 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »NO carbs?
No vegetables, no dairy, no nuts and seeds, no beans, no fruit...?
Enough to make me want to cry just thinking about it!5 -
You won't need luck, you'll need a doctor.12
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amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
I wonder what your definition of "carbs" sounds like.10 -
amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
I wonder what your definition of "carbs" sounds like.
I predict they mean crisps, cookies, tarts, bread, rice, pasta etc.9 -
MFP's counting of actual carbs might make that confusing.8
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amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
I wonder what your definition of "carbs" sounds like.
I started on a low carb diet (under 90 grams) about 3 months ago. I was absolutely amazed at how many carbs are in things like fruit. I had no idea. I'm guessing I'm not alone. One smallish pear is about 1/3 of my carb allotment for the day. Forget eating most of the frozen dinners from Lean Cuisine or Smart Ones either.2 -
CindyJNC1963 wrote: »amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
I wonder what your definition of "carbs" sounds like.
I started on a low carb diet (under 90 grams) about 3 months ago. I was absolutely amazed at how many carbs are in things like fruit. I had no idea. I'm guessing I'm not alone. One smallish pear is about 1/3 of my carb allotment for the day. Forget eating most of the frozen dinners from Lean Cuisine or Smart Ones either.
This is my issue (for me!) with really low carb diets, as I'd miss fruit and I think it's good for me. I keep them at around 100-120 (at least in the winter, when there's not local in-season fruit around, and when on a deficit). I tend to eat starchy carbs at only one meal, and not in huge portions (although I still will use beans and lentils as a non meat source of protein quite regularly -- they are another higher carb food I think is really important). I will also fit in smaller servings of potatoes and sweet potatoes and occasional pasta. I've never cared about bread or rice or dry/cold cereals (I in fact dislike cereals other than oatmeal), and steel cut oats are fine but I generally prefer eggs and veg for breakfast anyway, so mostly this is just eating how I like to eat. If I have an occasional higher carb day I don't care, however, as I am not aiming for any particular number.1 -
That would be a sure recipe for me to quickly lose 20 then quickly gain back 35.4
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midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
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born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
Of these 10-14%, are these people who are eating zero carbohydrate diets? Or are they people who are eating a diet that includes carbohydrates but is deficient in other ways?
I ask because I think that's a key distinction when we are determining whether this population is truly at risk for vitamin C deficiency.2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
Of these 10-14%, are these people who are eating zero carbohydrate diets? Or are they people who are eating a diet that includes carbohydrates but is deficient in other ways?
I ask because I think that's a key distinction when we are determining whether this population is truly at risk for vitamin C deficiency.
There does not seem to be any dietary consideration in the study I linked so I presume it is for people consuming a "normal" balanced diet, including many of the fortified foods that helped to reduce the prevalence of scurvy (none of which are meat BTW).
My point is that, despite OP being anecdotally unaware of any scurvy cases, it is definitely still a risk even in developed countries. Whether OP is at elevated risk, I can't say.
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I would suggest that if one consumes no (or little) fruits and veg it's probably wise to take a multi. I don't actually think it's a good idea even then -- I think there are positive qualities to foods associated with healthful outcomes that probably have not been identified yet -- but it would prevent the various diseases that led to us realizing the importance of those which have been identified.
That aside, so much stuff is fortified in the US that it's hard to have a real vitamin deficiency, probably.
If for some reason you were committed carnivore (which I would never be), I suspect you can get all vitamins (to avoid a deficiency) from meat if you ate a variety, some of it raw, and ate a variety of offal, but I'd still think why take the risk when supplementing with vitamins is so easy.1 -
I would suggest that if one consumes no (or little) fruits and veg it's probably wise to take a multi. I don't actually think it's a good idea even then -- I think there are positive qualities to foods associated with healthful outcomes that probably have not been identified yet -- but it would prevent the various diseases that led to us realizing the importance of those which have been identified.
That aside, so much stuff is fortified in the US that it's hard to have a real vitamin deficiency, probably.
If for some reason you were committed carnivore (which I would never be), I suspect you can get all vitamins (to avoid a deficiency) from meat if you ate a variety, some of it raw, and ate a variety of offal, but I'd still think why take the risk when supplementing with vitamins is so easy.
I agree overall, but I would imagine that many people literally doing a zero carbohydrate diet are avoiding most of the commonly fortified foods in the US diet (cereals, flour, milk, juices, etc). Meat is commonly fed with fortified feed, which would get some vitamins to the meat that might otherwise be lacking.
I'm not arguing that zero carbohydrate people *do* have higher rates of deficiencies. I know that proponents of the diet argue that they don't. My understanding of nutrition would tell me that some of them must be at higher risk, but that's just my thought process. There is no data, that I know of, to back up either side.
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born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
You have failed to provide an example of someone getting scurvy from a carnivore diet. Instead, your study shows:His dietary history revealed that he ate mostly TV dinners, canned soups, and canned stewed vegetables...3 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
You have failed to provide an example of someone getting scurvy from a carnivore diet. Instead, your study shows:His dietary history revealed that he ate mostly TV dinners, canned soups, and canned stewed vegetables...
My intent was not to prove that a carnivore diet is a specific risk, rather that scurvy is a risk at all. Just because OP doesn't know anyone with scurvy doesn't mean scurvy does not occur. If you look at my second post, I clearly state that I cannot say whether OP is at elevated risk.
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CindyJNC1963 wrote: »amishasingh wrote: »Going on no carb diet with a target to loose 1kg per week.wish me luck
I wonder what your definition of "carbs" sounds like.
I started on a low carb diet (under 90 grams) about 3 months ago. I was absolutely amazed at how many carbs are in things like fruit. I had no idea. I'm guessing I'm not alone. One smallish pear is about 1/3 of my carb allotment for the day. Forget eating most of the frozen dinners from Lean Cuisine or Smart Ones either.
This is my issue (for me!) with really low carb diets, as I'd miss fruit and I think it's good for me. I keep them at around 100-120 (at least in the winter, when there's not local in-season fruit around, and when on a deficit). I tend to eat starchy carbs at only one meal, and not in huge portions (although I still will use beans and lentils as a non meat source of protein quite regularly -- they are another higher carb food I think is really important). I will also fit in smaller servings of potatoes and sweet potatoes and occasional pasta. I've never cared about bread or rice or dry/cold cereals (I in fact dislike cereals other than oatmeal), and steel cut oats are fine but I generally prefer eggs and veg for breakfast anyway, so mostly this is just eating how I like to eat. If I have an occasional higher carb day I don't care, however, as I am not aiming for any particular number.
My weight loss doctor recommended the goal of under 90 carb and over 100 protein because I was totally out of control with my eating when I first saw her. I would have totally balked at zero carbs because I do like fruits. I have gone as high as 120 in a day and I don't think that's a big issue as long as I am under my calorie goal. I eat very, very little bread, no rice or cereal of any kind. I have started incorporating very small amounts of some starchy vegetables back in my diet (corn, Lima beans, potatoes, etc.). I have never eaten lentils and I haven't eaten beans since I've been on this plan. I can talk to my doctor about it next month. I have worked so hard...I don't want to mess it up now.3 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
You have failed to provide an example of someone getting scurvy from a carnivore diet. Instead, your study shows:His dietary history revealed that he ate mostly TV dinners, canned soups, and canned stewed vegetables...
My intent was not to prove that a carnivore diet is a specific risk, rather that scurvy is a risk at all. Just because OP doesn't know anyone with scurvy doesn't mean scurvy does not occur. If you look at my second post, I clearly state that I cannot say whether OP is at elevated risk.
Yes, everyone knows that scurvy exists. I have yet to see any evidence of a single person getting scurvy while eating a zero carb carnivore diet. And yet, I've met people who have been eating that way for more than a decade without interruption and without micro-nutrient supplementation.5 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Blimey. I mean.. ok, if you like eating that way and can see yourself doing it forever... But it's a hard pass from me. All I can think of is the inevitable constipation from the lack of fibre. And you know... the possibility of scurvy?
I usually eat about 150-180g of carbs a day. The weight is coming off just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmm... I have been eating carnivore for nearly a year and ate a carnivore diet for several months of 2017 as well. There is definitely not constipation.
Also, I don't know any any cases of scurvy from people eating a carnivore diet. Can you find even a single such example?
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517958/
10-14% of populations in developed countries present with vitamin C deficiency, which is what causes scurvy. It's certainly not as common as it once was but you're lying to yourself if you think you are not at risk. You're in a better position if you actually consume organ meats and offal but most people turn their nose up at that yucky stuff. The thing about diseases due to vitamin or nutrient deficiency is that they are not like an injury that sidelines you quickly and obviously; you feel and perform mostly fine until the malady has progressed far enough to cause considerable symptoms. Take care.
You have failed to provide an example of someone getting scurvy from a carnivore diet. Instead, your study shows:His dietary history revealed that he ate mostly TV dinners, canned soups, and canned stewed vegetables...
My intent was not to prove that a carnivore diet is a specific risk, rather that scurvy is a risk at all. Just because OP doesn't know anyone with scurvy doesn't mean scurvy does not occur. If you look at my second post, I clearly state that I cannot say whether OP is at elevated risk.
Yes, everyone knows that scurvy exists. I have yet to see any evidence of a single person getting scurvy while eating a zero carb carnivore diet. And yet, I've met people who have been eating that way for more than a decade without interruption and without micro-nutrient supplementation.
The cool thing about statistics is that, unless otherwise stated, if 10-14% of the population present with vitamin C deficiency, it is safe to say that 10-14% of people on a carnivore diet will present with a vitamin C deficiency as they are part of the general population sample. A carnivore diet does not remove you from this risk.
Perhaps I misunderstood you. You seemed to scoff at the notion that there was any risk of scurvy at all, not that there was elevated risk related to your specific WOE.
And my apologies for conflating you with the actual OP. I have referred to OP a couple of times where I was actually referring to you.
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