Juicing success stories

JB5001 wrote: »

I’m up at 4.30am and juicing by 4.40am.

I'm usually up at 4:30. Sometimes I think it's because I'm a morning person, and sometimes because I have sleep issues. I run before I eat on most days.

I will have a liter of juice which consists of a variety of vegetables: fennel, chicory, celery, cabbage (red or green), water spinach, beetroot, turnip and suede. (Variety is the aim)

I usually have eggs with vegetables, varied, almost always with some kind of leafy green, usually at least 3 different kinds. Sometimes I have fruit or avocado (fruit, but feels different) too. This morning I wasn't in a breakfast mood so had a big salad (broccoli, califlower, arugula, fennel) with leftover steak on it, plus some pineapple (weirdly all my meals today were some variety of salad with protein -- spinach salad with green beans, avocado, and radish (and other things I am forgetting) with crab for lunch (was taken out to lunch for work), dinner leftover cabbage salad with oranges and various other veg plus cashews, and salmon. Heavy meat day for me, unusual.

I often eat (whole, not juiced) fennel, celery, all kinds of cabbage, spinach (don't know what water spinach is), beets, turnip. Suede to me is a material. Do you mean swede, which would be rutabaga here? If so it's an occasional thing for me, but don't want it juiced. (Same with the rest, really, although beets and spinach and fennel are veg I've used in smoothies.) Also tons of other veg not mentioned (far more cruciferous veg, far more leafy greens, rest depending on the season although I love broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, brussels, onions, leeks, tomatoes, I could go on, all year round.

Drink the juice, listen to a podcast(s) (I like to listen to them at 2 or 2.5x) make my breakfast and pack it into a lunch box and get to work by 6am

Wow, podcast at 2x seems unpleasant, my app doesn't do 2.5x. But then I listen for fun, usually when running.

Breakfast consists of organic brown rice (sometimes I’ve added oyster, enokitake and shitake mushrooms), some freshly cut herbs, tinned sardines and tuna both with no added salt.

So limited veg in your actual meal? Is this why you feel a need to juice? I do find that most huge juicing proponents don't really like veg or have trouble eating many of them. Too bad, as I think whole foods are ideal.

I will eat this meal around 8.15am and will not eat anything again until dinner as I eat a large amount of food.

I enjoy lunch. Usually have a huge salad if not taken out to lunch, or leftovers from dinner. Many of the veg you mention are often on it (many may be cooked).

I work through ‘lunch’ and leave work at 6.30pm and head to the gym. I’ll do some sprints and a gym session and wrap it up in an hour.

Nice to be able to leave at 6:30, but that's why I workout in the morning (and it's partly procrastination I admit).

Home 8.15pm, juice again and clean my juicer whilst listening to more podcasts or chatting with friends on phone. Juicer cleaned by hand with steel wool and detergent in 9 minutes.

Seems annoying, lots of other things one could do.

Dinner will consist of steamed potatoes (I buy about 6 different types), pumpkin and some organic meat which gets delivered to me in bulk from a butcher.

So again limited veg, hmm.

I’ll put on the brown rice in the Japanese rice cooker that I got if need be and that will cook my rice overnight so I’m good to go in the morning.

Can’t you eat all of those vegetables?

I’m not too sure how many vegetables you eat a week but over the course of a week I go through approximately 32 beetroot, 12, turnips, 20 parsnips, 25 tomatoes, 12 celery, 4 water spinach, 6 chicory, 2 fennel, 2 endive, 12 swedes, 8 bunches of broccoli, two cabbages and 2 kale

That's a pretty limited selection of veg and you are tossing some of the benefits of them by eating them only juiced.

Hard to calculate servings when they are juiced, but one fennel is about a serving, 2 endives is not that big a serving, cabbage vary in size, 8 bunches of broccoli -- what's a bunch?, 2 kale -- what's a kale, so on.

Bigger issue, I know from experience that it's super easy to eat 10-18 servings of veg (serving being about 80 g, and not counting potatoes as a veg and only one serving of beans or peas -- Ann and I did this for a challenge for a while and reported back). Obviously if you juice them they are a much, much tinier amount -- your amount seems pretty small, frankly.

In any case, is there some information that more than this 10-18 is needed, especially if it's from a pretty limited source and includes only the juice? Please share.

I consume herbs with cooking, naturally, like most people interested in cooking.

Longitudinal studies show on average a 20% decline in minerals and vitamins in our fruits and vegetables.

I'm skeptical about this, especially given the huge variety of farmland, that we've bred veg and fruit to be more nutritious and easier to access the nutrients over time (thinking back a long way, not til 1950), and that if you really care about nutrients you'd go after more variety.

Plus, eliminating large portions of the veg and apparently not eating many whole at all seems contrary to the goal of maximizing nutrients.

Re recommended targets, I've been logging at Cron for a while and have no issues. Variety helps, as does including some fruit.

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You know this is exactly what the keto people claim, and the paleo, and the carnivore, and the vegans, right? (Some of should be in front of all those.)

If you think the taste of juice sucks wait till you get a taste of your next medical bill.

I don't think juice tastes bad. I think it's unwise to eat so much outside of its natural state, without the fiber, and I strongly believe that most proponents of juicing can't deal with actually eating veg and you've supported that theory. I'm sorry for you if that's true.

It's so very silly that you think that not liking juicing = eating an unhealthy diet. It shows how much you can't visualize eating veg in a normal whole food diet. Hmm.

And eye pigment, really? That's genetic. I was born with green eyes, have always had green eyes. The idea that that could change due to anything other than colored contacts it, well, weird, man, you should question yourself.