Intermittent Fasting
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pierinifitness wrote: »Post something about IF here and you’ll get more woo’s that a forest overpopulated with owls.
To all who practice or want to practice IF in a supportive environment, stroll over to the IF sub-forum. It’s a ghost town right now but I’m trying to help bring it to life. Maybe so can you.
Nobody here has a problem with IF (notice how his initial post has zero woos). Its the pseudoscience that claims it does anything for weightloss other than help to create a deficit that people have an issue with...
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I'm doing the OMAD or one meal a day intermittent fasting and so far I've lost about 9kg in about a month and a half period.
Note: I go to the gym pretty much everyday and I also work 8 hours a day.1 -
I do IF and I lost 50 lbs. Not from fasting, but from staying in a calorie deficit within my 8 hr eating window. So my post didn't in any way, shape, or form put down IF. I just stated that IF in and of itself doesn't cause weight loss.8
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YvetteK2015 wrote: »Fasting doesn't make you lose weight. Staying within your calorie limit does.
Intermittent fasting doesn't make you lose weight (by itself). Fasting long enough certainly will.3 -
In essence fasting definitely helps you lose weight because it makes your body dip into stored energy just to function. By not adding any new calories(energy) you are burning what you already have thus losing weight if you do it regularly.
All caloric deficits work this way. When you eat less than you burn, your body absolutely has to burn what's stored. Intermittent fasting doesn't change this.
I practice IF, by the way, in case you may think we all a bunch of naysayers. It just doesn't get any credit or blame for my fat loss or gain.
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Silentpadna wrote: »YvetteK2015 wrote: »Fasting doesn't make you lose weight. Staying within your calorie limit does.
Intermittent fasting doesn't make you lose weight (by itself). Fasting long enough certainly will.
When you are fasting...are you not restricting your calories even further?0 -
Read my original post, I never said IF alone makes you lose weight. I said I do a variety of things to maintain my weight loss, IF being one of them. It is one of several things that help you lose weight.
I'm being nitpicky here, because the logical pathways are being obstructed. The only thing that creates or maintains weight loss is a negative energy balance (for us as measured by calories). And. Nothing. Else.
Everything else is a tool to create that energy imbalance, whether it affects your energy input or your energy output. The reason people (me included) get a little spun up on this is that there are so many people out there who are being duped into thinking that there is some trick other than energy balance that controls the body's storage or release of energy. And again, I practice IF quite a bit myself, even currently.8 -
YvetteK2015 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »YvetteK2015 wrote: »Fasting doesn't make you lose weight. Staying within your calorie limit does.
Intermittent fasting doesn't make you lose weight (by itself). Fasting long enough certainly will.
When you are fasting...are you not restricting your calories even further?
I think you missed my point. I was trying to correct what I perceived to be a typo - in a humorous way. Many times I swing and miss on the humor part.4 -
OMG lol are you serious? Intermittent Fasting is a tool that can help a person lose weight. That’s all I am saying.
I posted about IF before and got just roasted (by a few people who I have blocked in this thread even). If you aren't posting about calorie deficits, it's considered a pseudoscience, unfortunately. If you want, you can add me.
I've been doing the 16:8 for almost a month and will be jumping to OMAD starting in February! Best of luck to you! 18 -
Silentpadna wrote: »YvetteK2015 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »YvetteK2015 wrote: »Fasting doesn't make you lose weight. Staying within your calorie limit does.
Intermittent fasting doesn't make you lose weight (by itself). Fasting long enough certainly will.
When you are fasting...are you not restricting your calories even further?
I think you missed my point. I was trying to correct what I perceived to be a typo - in a humorous way. Many times I swing and miss on the humor part.
I misread the inflection on that one, sorry.0 -
AnnabellaxRinger wrote: »OMG lol are you serious? Intermittent Fasting is a tool that can help a person lose weight. That’s all I am saying.
I posted about IF before and got just roasted (by a few people who I have blocked in this thread even). If you aren't posting about calorie deficits, it's considered a pseudoscience, unfortunately. If you want, you can add me. I've been doing the 16:8 for almost a month and will be jumping to OMAD starting in February! Best of luck to you!
I've been doing 16:8 for almost 30 years, and yes, it still is all about creating a calorie deficit in order to lose weight. If intermittent fasting makes it easier for some people to achieve that, then it's truly helpful.
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Original poster- IF 16:8 def helps me stay in my caloric goals! Since I’m eating less hours, I am not tempted to late night snack or eat a ton in the morning.7
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I’ve been doing IF 16:8 for about a month now and it is very easy for me by now. I only do it every 4 days but I am considering slowly bringing it down to 3 days then maybe two then every day. It’s been working on the 4 day separation along with my calorie watching, work steps and exercise so I don’t want to mess with a good thing. I have also found it pretty easy to not go overboard on my lunch or dinner calories in an IF day. Overall I think it is a great addition to any fitness/diet/nutrition plan.0
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@mithion, a lot of people on here are so judgemental if you are not following the plan they are doing. They don’t see that different plans work for different people (my post got a lot of slating too 😂).
I don’t know where you are based, but if you can find it, the BBC in the U.K. did a documentary on intermittent fasting and followed a well known U.K. journalist as he embarked on this regime, he was closely monitored and had every expert in the field advising on the diet. It’s called: Horizon - eat, fast and live longer. It’s available on BBC iplayer but maybe available elsewhere.
Anyway, lots of scientist and experts talk about the health benefits of fasting and he had fantastic success, it lowered his cholesterol and BP and he lost weight too.. he had no ill effects and where he thought he would crave “bad foods” he actually didn’t and felt amazing.
Wishing you good luck and hopefully you have found the diet that works for you x26 -
Something isn’t right in my mind when the post above mine, very thoughtful snd sharing, gets a woo.
I thank that poster for a great add to this topic discussion.
Going to eat because it’s my feeding window, then check back to count my woo’s.9 -
@barbarajaneuk. I saw that documentary and it was so interesting and well done.
I’ve been an intermittent faster for 35 plus years. Way before it had a “name”. Not for weight loss, but because of how it makes me feel. I always feel smarter, faster, leaner, more creative, and have more energy when fasting. It’s good for my well being. I’m very healthy for my age. 57 and no health problems. I credit fasting for a lot of it. I do a flexible 16/8, and eat from about 3pm to 11pm. I’m a night owl.4 -
What's amusing is that most of the people being accused of judging people who don't follow their plan or dissing IF are in fact doing IF, some have been for far longer than it was this popular
There are lots of theories out there about possible health benefits of IF, but they are all that - theories. Some studies support them, others don't.
No one is saying not to do IF, just to understand WHY it may or may not work. I would think understanding the process rather than just blindly following the latest pet project of the diet industry would be a good thing.
OP, I realized I wasn't hungry in the morning, so I started waiting to eat until lunch and ended up accidentally doing 16:8 for a couple of years. I enjoyed having the extra calories for later in the day. Then a few months ago I started waking up really hungry. After a couple of weeks of trying to power through it, I decided to give my body what it was asking for and went back to a more traditional eating schedule. No change in calories or energy or anything else I could see either way, just the appetite shift. I apologize if my experience is not what some people want to hear, but it is what it is.19 -
frankiesgirlie wrote: »@barbarajaneuk. I saw that documentary and it was so interesting and well done.
I’ve been an intermittent faster for 35 plus years. Way before it had a “name”. Not for weight loss, but because of how it makes me feel. I always feel smarter, faster, leaner, more creative, and have more energy when fasting. It’s good for my well being. I’m very healthy for my age. 57 and no health problems. I credit fasting for a lot of it. I do a flexible 16/8, and eat from about 3pm to 11pm. I’m a night owl.
All of the scientific studies I have read on it, comment on the amount of energy you get. I don’t eat breakfast and haven’t done for years, so I do go longer than most without food, between 12-16hrs and maintained a previous weight loss doing this (trying out a new style of dieting to lose some more weight currently, so I am sometimes now having breakfast). I too am extremely healthy, often get told I am look younger than I am (I am in my 50s too!) and have amazing skin and I never slap expensive creams on it.. in fact most nights I sleep with my makeup on 🤪... Maybe it is the fasting x8 -
As one of those who try to espouse clear thinking on things, and one of those who most likely comes off as judgmental (both in this thread and others), I'll tell you this: that is not the intent.
I'm a big believer in using IF as a tool because it helps me control my energy input.
But, it's extremely (I mean really extremely) important that people understand cause and effect. As I've shouted from the rooftops many times: you cannot violate the laws of nature. You don't create energy - you take in fuel (input) and you burn it (output) or store it. Period. IF doesn't change any of that. It is your energy balance that determines how much gets stored or how much stored energy is used. To the extent that IF helps you control that, that is what it gets credit for.
The problem is that there is a huge industry out there preying on people who are uninformed. Making huge money on shortcuts and secrets that are not the cause of the desired effect. IF does not cause fat loss. Keto does not cause fat loss. None of the named diets cause fat loss. You can gain weight on all of them. A calorie deficit is the only thing that does. That is the cause and nothing else.
None of the posts in here are in any way judgmental toward any person. I don't judge anyone who wants to use IF, but if someone makes claims that it does what it doesn't, I'll call it out.22 -
Silentpadna wrote: »As one of those who try to espouse clear thinking on things, and one of those who most likely comes off as judgmental (both in this thread and others), I'll tell you this: that is not the intent.
I'm a big believer in using IF as a tool because it helps me control my energy input.
But, it's extremely (I mean really extremely) important that people understand cause and effect. As I've shouted from the rooftops many times: you cannot violate the laws of nature. You don't create energy - you take in fuel (input) and you burn it (output) or store it. Period. IF doesn't change any of that. It is your energy balance that determines how much gets stored or how much stored energy is used. To the extent that IF helps you control that, that is what it gets credit for.
The problem is that there is a huge industry out there preying on people who are uninformed. Making huge money on shortcuts and secrets that are not the cause of the desired effect. IF does not cause fat loss. Keto does not cause fat loss. None of the named diets cause fat loss. You can gain weight on all of them. A calorie deficit is the only thing that does. That is the cause and nothing else.
None of the posts in here are in any way judgmental toward any person. I don't judge anyone who wants to use IF, but if someone makes claims that it does what it doesn't, I'll call it out.
Well thanks for letting us know your “ministry.”
I’ve been a moderator on fitness forums in the past and know there are always kindre soul participants tring to save others from the evils of the world.
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