Pioneer Woman
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suziecue25 wrote: »I am not dissing mac and cheese or trying to shame anyone....my point is she is doing a tv cookery programme and everything she cooks is very high calorie..... even the voiceover on the trailer for the programme says 'you can't put on weight by looking', insinuating that you can put on weight by eating her recipes, . Her son, who looks about 10, may well be going through a growing phase which makes his face look pudgy and even though her meals are high calorie [eg a vegetable side of spinach and mushrooms in full fat cream] she may only give him small portions......I don't know.
As this programme is from the USA I was wondering if anyone has watched it.
You can't put on weight by looking so I have no idea why you would fault a television program for stating the obvious. You can put on weight by eating Drummond's recipes, but that's something she has in common with every other recipe creator who has ever existed. It's not a specific fault of hers, it's due to the fact that food has calories.
Drummond's oldest son is sixteen, not ten. You may be watching an old program. In my experience with children and adolescents, it's not unusual for their faces to go through visible weight fluctuations as they grow even if they are never overweight. Some kids just have chubbier faces as they prepare for a growth spurt. You should Google Bryce Drummon as he looks today. It may set your mind at ease as he looks pretty much like a happy and healthy sixteen-year-old.
Even if he was overweight, I'm not sure what purpose this criticism would serve.
Keep in mind that cooking shows like Drummond's are a sort of fictionalized reality. In reality, we have no idea what she's feeding her family on a regular basis. What you were seeing was a segment on a television show, not a scene from their actual home showing a family meal. It can be hard to tell the difference, but these television personalities are usually cooking on a set, production assistants are doing some of the work, the situations used to frame the show are often contrived, fictionalized, or recreated. We shouldn't feel we have particular insight into Drummond's parenting or home life just because we're getting access to a version she is choosing to show us. One reason for her great success is that she does seem very real and easy to relate to. Don't let that fool you into thinking the show is straight documentary. It is designed as entertainment and we should probably consume it in that capacity.29 -
Yeah, she's from Oklahoma where I live currently. She's a huuuuge hit here. I've used her recipes and bought her stuff and no one in my house is over weight. Can't say that for the rest of Oklahoma, lol, but it is what it is.19
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collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!6 -
I get what you're saying. Not about the kid because kids should be off limits for criticism.
But those cooking shows would be murder to any diet! Why just broil a steak when you can douse it in butter and herbs before you put it in the oven? Add oil and butter to every vegetable? Add extra sugary topping to every dessert?
At work they watch "pioneer Woman" in the break room during lunch. I'm not a huge fan but she is entertaining. My take? Why is she making simple recipes difficult?
For example, in one program she was making Rice Krispie treats but out of Cheerios with a bunch of added stuff. My kids loved Rice Krispie Treats, why would I mess with something that works?
Because who would watch a show where a woman just made a bunch of recipes that we've all already tried and know?23 -
I get what you're saying. Not about the kid because kids should be off limits for criticism.
But those cooking shows would be murder to any diet! Why just broil a steak when you can douse it in butter and herbs before you put it in the oven? Add oil and butter to every vegetable? Add extra sugary topping to every dessert?
At work they watch "pioneer Woman" in the break room during lunch. I'm not a huge fan but she is entertaining. My take? Why is she making simple recipes difficult?
For example, in one program she was making Rice Krispie treats but out of Cheerios with a bunch of added stuff. My kids loved Rice Krispie Treats, why would I mess with something that works?
I like compound butter on my steak... and herbs are good. Not sure the problem. 🤷🏼♀️16 -
are you kidding me?
find a new hobby that doesnt involve being a judgemental *kitten* - ESPECIALLY towards a CHILD!!!
anyways, i dont watch cooking shows (I am familiar with her merchandise). I watch them and get hungry. lol
I also dont live off 'low calorie' foods. my dinners are pretty much the same ive always made, only now I use the recipe builder (and have for years) and know the portion size. I usually plan my day around my dinners. slow cooker chicken philly cheesesteaks for supper tonight. a staple in our house. tomorrow - cilantro lime tacos. saturday hamburgers and hot dogs i think.
normal food.
130 pounds down now.
and i cook my steak with butter too, dang it! :P
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suziecue25 wrote: »I am not dissing mac and cheese or trying to shame anyone....my point is she is doing a tv cookery programme and everything she cooks is very high calorie..... even the voiceover on the trailer for the programme says 'you can't put on weight by looking', insinuating that you can put on weight by eating her recipes, . Her son, who looks about 10, may well be going through a growing phase which makes his face look pudgy and even though her meals are high calorie [eg a vegetable side of spinach and mushrooms in full fat cream] she may only give him small portions......I don't know.
As this programme is from the USA I was wondering if anyone has watched it.
You know this thread is searchable by anyone who has an internet connection, right? What if this young man were to find this thread by Googling the name of his Mom's show? Would you say this to their faces? So wrong.21 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!
I tried it on a whim the night I realized I was out of butter, but already had the other ingredients ready to go with no backup meal plan. I figured it couldn't do any harm, since fat is fat, and OMG it was fantastic.6 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »I get what you're saying. Not about the kid because kids should be off limits for criticism.
But those cooking shows would be murder to any diet! Why just broil a steak when you can douse it in butter and herbs before you put it in the oven? Add oil and butter to every vegetable? Add extra sugary topping to every dessert?
At work they watch "pioneer Woman" in the break room during lunch. I'm not a huge fan but she is entertaining. My take? Why is she making simple recipes difficult?
For example, in one program she was making Rice Krispie treats but out of Cheerios with a bunch of added stuff. My kids loved Rice Krispie Treats, why would I mess with something that works?
I like compound butter on my steak... and herbs are good. Not sure the problem. 🤷🏼♀️
Seriously. I'm not supposed to use herbs now? (I'm not a butter fan, but I'm all about the herbs!)6 -
collectingblues wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!
I tried it on a whim the night I realized I was out of butter, but already had the other ingredients ready to go with no backup meal plan. I figured it couldn't do any harm, since fat is fat, and OMG it was fantastic.
I admit to using rendered bacon fat for just about anything that calls for butter...much more flavor.13 -
janejellyroll wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »I am not dissing mac and cheese or trying to shame anyone....my point is she is doing a tv cookery programme and everything she cooks is very high calorie..... even the voiceover on the trailer for the programme says 'you can't put on weight by looking', insinuating that you can put on weight by eating her recipes, . Her son, who looks about 10, may well be going through a growing phase which makes his face look pudgy and even though her meals are high calorie [eg a vegetable side of spinach and mushrooms in full fat cream] she may only give him small portions......I don't know.
As this programme is from the USA I was wondering if anyone has watched it.
You can't put on weight by looking so I have no idea why you would fault a television program for stating the obvious. You can put on weight by eating Drummond's recipes, but that's something she has in common with every other recipe creator who has ever existed. It's not a specific fault of hers, it's due to the fact that food has calories.
Drummond's oldest son is sixteen, not ten. You may be watching an old program. In my experience with children and adolescents, it's not unusual for their faces to go through visible weight fluctuations as they grow even if they are never overweight. Some kids just have chubbier faces as they prepare for a growth spurt. You should Google Bryce Drummon as he looks today. It may set your mind at ease as he looks pretty much like a happy and healthy sixteen-year-old.
Even if he was overweight, I'm not sure what purpose this criticism would serve.
Keep in mind that cooking shows like Drummond's are a sort of fictionalized reality. In reality, we have no idea what she's feeding her family on a regular basis. What you were seeing was a segment on a television show, not a scene from their actual home showing a family meal. It can be hard to tell the difference, but these television personalities are usually cooking on a set, production assistants are doing some of the work, the situations used to frame the show are often contrived, fictionalized, or recreated. We shouldn't feel we have particular insight into Drummond's parenting or home life just because we're getting access to a version she is choosing to show us. One reason for her great success is that she does seem very real and easy to relate to. Don't let that fool you into thinking the show is straight documentary. It is designed as entertainment and we should probably consume it in that capacity.
Thank you for your knowledgeable and polite reply. I totally take on board what you are saying. My fault entirely...pax?16 -
cmriverside wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!
I tried it on a whim the night I realized I was out of butter, but already had the other ingredients ready to go with no backup meal plan. I figured it couldn't do any harm, since fat is fat, and OMG it was fantastic.
I admit to using rendered bacon fat for just about anything that calls for butter...much more flavor.
I keep a jar of bacon fat next to the stove at all times. We use it very often.7 -
It may be that what is on tv is not every meal her family eats every day. Photos on her blog do not really show an overweight family and they seem pretty active so I think they are probably managing okay.
I don't think she promotes herself as a diet cook so I am not sure why you complain specifically about her show being as expected. I have not watched the show but tv cooking shows tend to not worry about calories.
It is not the type of food but eating more calories than you personally need for your personal activity level that makes you gain weight. You can eat smaller portions of macaroni and cheese. You can use lower calorie ingredients to adapt recipes to your needs.
Don't watch a cooking show if that is not the kind of food you want to see prepared. Find another show or turn the tv off.12 -
suziecue25 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »I am not dissing mac and cheese or trying to shame anyone....my point is she is doing a tv cookery programme and everything she cooks is very high calorie..... even the voiceover on the trailer for the programme says 'you can't put on weight by looking', insinuating that you can put on weight by eating her recipes, . Her son, who looks about 10, may well be going through a growing phase which makes his face look pudgy and even though her meals are high calorie [eg a vegetable side of spinach and mushrooms in full fat cream] she may only give him small portions......I don't know.
As this programme is from the USA I was wondering if anyone has watched it.
You can't put on weight by looking so I have no idea why you would fault a television program for stating the obvious. You can put on weight by eating Drummond's recipes, but that's something she has in common with every other recipe creator who has ever existed. It's not a specific fault of hers, it's due to the fact that food has calories.
Drummond's oldest son is sixteen, not ten. You may be watching an old program. In my experience with children and adolescents, it's not unusual for their faces to go through visible weight fluctuations as they grow even if they are never overweight. Some kids just have chubbier faces as they prepare for a growth spurt. You should Google Bryce Drummon as he looks today. It may set your mind at ease as he looks pretty much like a happy and healthy sixteen-year-old.
Even if he was overweight, I'm not sure what purpose this criticism would serve.
Keep in mind that cooking shows like Drummond's are a sort of fictionalized reality. In reality, we have no idea what she's feeding her family on a regular basis. What you were seeing was a segment on a television show, not a scene from their actual home showing a family meal. It can be hard to tell the difference, but these television personalities are usually cooking on a set, production assistants are doing some of the work, the situations used to frame the show are often contrived, fictionalized, or recreated. We shouldn't feel we have particular insight into Drummond's parenting or home life just because we're getting access to a version she is choosing to show us. One reason for her great success is that she does seem very real and easy to relate to. Don't let that fool you into thinking the show is straight documentary. It is designed as entertainment and we should probably consume it in that capacity.
Thank you for your knowledgeable and polite reply. I totally take on board what you are saying. My fault entirely...pax?
Thank you for considering what I had to say.
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I love pioneer woman AND Mac and cheese. She has some really tasty recipes, my favorite is her chocolate microwave mug cake, it uses ingredients most people already have in their pantry and is a quick way to yummy cake. I eat these types of foods all the time, and I’ve never been overweight in my life.
https://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/chocolate-cake-in-a-mug/
Perhaps judge less and eat more cake?15 -
suziecue25 wrote: »I am not dissing mac and cheese or trying to shame anyone....my point is she is doing a tv cookery programme and everything she cooks is very high calorie..... even the voiceover on the trailer for the programme says 'you can't put on weight by looking', insinuating that you can put on weight by eating her recipes, . Her son, who looks about 10, may well be going through a growing phase which makes his face look pudgy and even though her meals are high calorie [eg a vegetable side of spinach and mushrooms in full fat cream] she may only give him small portions......I don't know.
As this programme is from the USA I was wondering if anyone has watched it.
So completely out of bounds to criticise a child this way because you think he's a little heavy. This is exactly what causes adults with food issues.15 -
cmriverside wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!
I tried it on a whim the night I realized I was out of butter, but already had the other ingredients ready to go with no backup meal plan. I figured it couldn't do any harm, since fat is fat, and OMG it was fantastic.
I admit to using rendered bacon fat for just about anything that calls for butter...much more flavor.
It's also really good for topping off/stirring into a polenta.5 -
collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!
I tried it on a whim the night I realized I was out of butter, but already had the other ingredients ready to go with no backup meal plan. I figured it couldn't do any harm, since fat is fat, and OMG it was fantastic.
I admit to using rendered bacon fat for just about anything that calls for butter...much more flavor.
It's also really good for topping off/stirring into a polenta.
Well, that goes without saying. I put it in all corn meal recipes. 5 -
cmriverside wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Ohhh....so many good little recipes when you type in lard macaroni and cheese.
https://centslessdeals.com/macaroni-cheese-secret-ingredient/
Now I want some. With bacon. Maybe a side of hot dog.
I'm 140 pounds, 5'7".
Is that okay to eat???????
You know what’s awesome? When you sautée the bacon first, and use the rendered fat for the roux for the cheese sauce.
I've done this.... sooo good!!!
I tried it on a whim the night I realized I was out of butter, but already had the other ingredients ready to go with no backup meal plan. I figured it couldn't do any harm, since fat is fat, and OMG it was fantastic.
I admit to using rendered bacon fat for just about anything that calls for butter...much more flavor.
It's also really good for topping off/stirring into a polenta.
Well, that goes without saying. I put it in all corn meal recipes.
Mmmm bacon cornbread....5 -
suziecue25 wrote: »I am not dissing mac and cheese or trying to shame anyone....my point is she is doing a tv cookery programme and everything she cooks is very high calorie..... even the voiceover on the trailer for the programme says 'you can't put on weight by looking', insinuating that you can put on weight by eating her recipes, . Her son, who looks about 10, may well be going through a growing phase which makes his face look pudgy and even though her meals are high calorie [eg a vegetable side of spinach and mushrooms in full fat cream] she may only give him small portions......I don't know.
As this programme is from the USA I was wondering if anyone has watched it.
1. Have you never heard of portion control?
2. Calorie-rich food is not evil, and just because it looks and tastes delicious isn't grounds for automatically shaming anyone who cooks that way.
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