How bad are artificial sweeteners? Splenda?
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I'm convinced they do. I had a diet coke at the Golden Corral all-you-can-eat last night and I am up three pounds.Fitness327wk wrote: »Do you think zero calorie artificial sweeteners create havoc on your diet?
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Fatty_Nuff wrote: »
I'm convinced they do. I had a diet coke at the Golden Corral all-you-can-eat last night and I am up three pounds.Fitness327wk wrote: »Do you think zero calorie artificial sweeteners create havoc on your diet?
Hahaha....damned diet coke...lol😂0 -
If artificial sweeteners spiked my insulin, I wouldn't be able to slam half a dozen zero-calorie drinks every day and detect ketones in my urine. I do both.3
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I typically use about twelve packets a day of Sweet-n-low in my tea. I am trying to lose ten pounds in order to get back to my goal. I have been reading articles and great hearing from all of you! I think its so much better for me to drink my hot tea with artificial sweetener than the wine I was drinking at night. I have given up my vino for January and most likely February until I reach my goal (may have a few glasses in Feb).
I am really watching my sodium intake in all of my foods; however, sill feeling a bit bloated. Well...while reading that artificial sweeteners can bloat you. HEY, no calories and I don’t get migraines or any other problems. I may be wrong of correlating sweet-n-low and feeling bloated.3 -
Fitness327wk wrote: »I have read articles that artificial sweeteners can cause belly fat. It makes NO sense to me as it has zero calories!
However in this article it at least says the following:
When consumed in low quantities, artificial sweeteners have been shown to aid weight loss, improve metabolic conditions and even protect against injury during infection. However, this new study suggests that, rather than keeping us healthy, artificial sweeteners, especially when consumed in larger doses, could be contributing to the obesity epidemic.
Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/artificial-sweeteners-may-make-you-fat-180968552/#YM7fmIs8LzmPiLzq.99
The reason it makes no sense is because it's a myth.4 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Too much aspartame gives me headaches (more than one drink per day containing it), and I hate the taste of xylitol. Other than that, I haven't found any artificial sweeteners to be bad for me.
Sorry to be "that guy" and nitpick but given how much miscommunication and misunderstanding is out there on this topic I thought it worth pointing out that xylitol is not "artificial" at least in the way that "artificial" is typically used in the public to mean not derived from a natural product. Xylitol is produced by plants and is manufactured by purification from plants.
That said the use of the terms "artificial" and "natural" by the public can be somewhat arbitrary with some "natural" products actually undergoing more processing than the "artificial" ones.4 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Too much aspartame gives me headaches (more than one drink per day containing it), and I hate the taste of xylitol. Other than that, I haven't found any artificial sweeteners to be bad for me.
Sorry to be "that guy" and nitpick but given how much miscommunication and misunderstanding is out there on this topic I thought it worth pointing out that xylitol is not "artificial" at least in the way that "artificial" is typically used in the public to mean not derived from a natural product. Xylitol is produced by plants and is manufactured by purification from plants.
That said the use of the terms "artificial" and "natural" by the public can be somewhat arbitrary with some "natural" products actually undergoing more processing than the "artificial" ones.
Noted. I, personally, lump everything that isn't sugar (or honey, I suppose) into the "artificial sweetener" pile. That's on me.2 -
While we're being pedantic, aspartame is not zero calorie, even though it is an artificial sweetener. It is just ludicrously low calorie because the peptide involved is about 200× sweeter than simple sugars on a per gram basis.0
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magnusthenerd wrote: »While we're being pedantic, aspartame is not zero calorie, even though it is an artificial sweetener. It is just ludicrously low calorie because the peptide involved is about 200× sweeter than simple sugars on a per gram basis.
Yup...its about the same calorically as protein because it is basically just a methylated dipeptide. Its about 4 cal per gram but the amount necessary to sweeten things is typically measured in miligrams...so like you said its pretty negligible.4 -
Gold within this here thread: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
If by wreaking havoc you mean able to drink a flavorful beverage without going over my caloric budget...
The testing that any drug or food additive has to go through is monumental and requires that no causative effects are associated within your subject population, but correlative effects as well.
That thread and this one= Mind. Blown. I've been taught that aspartame was the devil, equal causes cancer and that although it wasn't good either, Splenda was the best option besides Stevia if you can't take the aftertaste but that basically any artificial sweetener could do more harm than good, so for someone like me that loves sugar it's been hard to cope with cravings and I've avoided anything w aspartame, like Diet coke and sugar free candy, etc like the plague, being of the school of thought that if I needed a sugar or soda fix to just have the "regular sugar" stuff and allow for that in my daily calorie count. Maybe I should try it and see how it goes, I do have migraines already tho so hope it doesn't pick me to affect. Lol6 -
23MJ88DBFan wrote: »Gold within this here thread: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
If by wreaking havoc you mean able to drink a flavorful beverage without going over my caloric budget...
The testing that any drug or food additive has to go through is monumental and requires that no causative effects are associated within your subject population, but correlative effects as well.
That thread and this one= Mind. Blown. I've been taught that aspartame was the devil, equal causes cancer and that although it wasn't good either, Splenda was the best option besides Stevia if you can't take the aftertaste but that basically any artificial sweetener could do more harm than good, so for someone like me that loves sugar it's been hard to cope with cravings and I've avoided anything w aspartame, like Diet coke and sugar free candy, etc like the plague, being of the school of thought that if I needed a sugar or soda fix to just have the "regular sugar" stuff and allow for that in my daily calorie count. Maybe I should try it and see how it goes, I do have migraines already tho so hope it doesn't pick me to affect. Lol
Equal is just a brand name for aspartame.2 -
Fitness327wk wrote: »Do you think zero calorie artificial sweeteners create havoc on your diet?
No.
Not at all.
Did not drink them at all until starting my weight loss plan ( one thing I changed was regular soda to diet versions) - and lost weight to expected rate on recommended calorie allowance.
The type in sugar free candies does give me diahhroea - one or two is alright but any more causes issues.
But the aspartame in diet sodas is fine.
I do occasionally get migraines but this is totally unrelated to Artificial sweeteners - the amount I get is no more than before I started drinking them.
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23MJ88DBFan wrote: »Gold within this here thread: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
If by wreaking havoc you mean able to drink a flavorful beverage without going over my caloric budget...
The testing that any drug or food additive has to go through is monumental and requires that no causative effects are associated within your subject population, but correlative effects as well.
That thread and this one= Mind. Blown. I've been taught that aspartame was the devil, equal causes cancer and that although it wasn't good either, Splenda was the best option besides Stevia if you can't take the aftertaste but that basically any artificial sweetener could do more harm than good, so for someone like me that loves sugar it's been hard to cope with cravings and I've avoided anything w aspartame, like Diet coke and sugar free candy, etc like the plague, being of the school of thought that if I needed a sugar or soda fix to just have the "regular sugar" stuff and allow for that in my daily calorie count. Maybe I should try it and see how it goes, I do have migraines already tho so hope it doesn't pick me to affect. Lol
I believe it was saccharin that had a cancer scare. The reason was because saccharin is associated with bladder cancer in rats, but then again so is vitamin C. Rats are prone to bladder cancer by mechanisms that aren't applicable to primates - which is why subsequent long term studies on primates found no link.4 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »23MJ88DBFan wrote: »Gold within this here thread: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
If by wreaking havoc you mean able to drink a flavorful beverage without going over my caloric budget...
The testing that any drug or food additive has to go through is monumental and requires that no causative effects are associated within your subject population, but correlative effects as well.
That thread and this one= Mind. Blown. I've been taught that aspartame was the devil, equal causes cancer and that although it wasn't good either, Splenda was the best option besides Stevia if you can't take the aftertaste but that basically any artificial sweetener could do more harm than good, so for someone like me that loves sugar it's been hard to cope with cravings and I've avoided anything w aspartame, like Diet coke and sugar free candy, etc like the plague, being of the school of thought that if I needed a sugar or soda fix to just have the "regular sugar" stuff and allow for that in my daily calorie count. Maybe I should try it and see how it goes, I do have migraines already tho so hope it doesn't pick me to affect. Lol
I believe it was saccharin that had a cancer scare. The reason was because saccharin is associated with bladder cancer in rats, but then again so is vitamin C. Rats are prone to bladder cancer by mechanisms that aren't applicable to primates - which is why subsequent long term studies on primates found no link.
That plus the fact that you would basically have to spend your entire day shoveling saccharin into your mouth to reach the serum levels that the poor little mousies were subjected to...3 -
@Aaron_K123 learning continuously, didn't know it was the same thing
@magnusthenerd & @ccrdragon my 80 y/o grandmother has been drinking diet coke for years, (by choice, likes the taste, always skinny as a rail) went through breast cancer twice plus has an incurable bladder disease and we were looking for a scapegoat tbh. At the time, what we found was probably a hoax, it blamed aspartame. There's so much falsehood, media takes advantage of the vulnerable & gullible.7 -
I drink a Diet Pepsi everyday. It doesn’t seem to cause any ill effect. I have recently started using Monkfruit sweetener in baking and in my coffee. It’s still a bit pricey, but much better tasting in my opinion than any of the artificial sweeteners.0
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Both of the common artificial sweeteners cause me to have loose stools when I use more than 1 or 2 servings a day. I love my diet Pepsi. Pure Stevia does not have this effect for me so I use it when possible. I will have to try Monkfruit sweetener.0
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