Clarification
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Lol...give me a sec.. I'll go on a web explorer to show you pictures. Diff between two apps..Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »So I’m still confused. Are you logging exercise (stationary biking) on mfp? And which Fitbit do you have?
As for what people do...
For exercise calories - you should he eating them. Your deficit is set up so you will lose that amount even if you never exercise at all.
However, some people eat a percentage of the calories because some estimates can be quite high (like 400 calories for 30 min on the elliptical).
When it comes to having a synced tracker-some people find they estimate correctly, some find they overestimate, some find they underestimate. It takes a good 4-6 weeks (at least) to tell.
And if you’re not weighing your food, all bets are off because chances are that what you’re logging isn’t the amount you’re actually eating-which is Ok if you do so consistently.
Fitbit only transfer the steps to MFP.. anything hard exercise should be input in MFP if that's your main app u use for calories counting.
I personally use MFP to just input the meals.. and I use Fitbit do the CICO calc.. synch the cal in to Fitbit app. Personal pref really ..
No. That’s not correct. Fitbit transfers your TDEE to mfp. Mfp subtracts your NEAT and any workouts you’ve entered on mfp. The difference is your Fitbit adjustment. It has nothing to do with steps. It’s TDEE. The steps are listed there, but they have nothing to do with the adjustment amount. Click the information button or go through the entry in the app to see how rhe calculation is done.
Tdee has nothing to do with extra excercises.. it's based on basic info..
Here's a link to calculation
https://tdeecalculator.net/
TDEE comprises everything: bmr, daily activity, intentional exercise.
BMR once again.. based in basic info.. nothing to do with "extra" excercises.
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
You really, really need to read that link about how the Fitbit adjustment works.
Also-BMR doesn’t factor into this at all. With or without a Fitbit.
But seriously-read that link for how the Fitbit works with mfp.
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Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »So I’m still confused. Are you logging exercise (stationary biking) on mfp? And which Fitbit do you have?
As for what people do...
For exercise calories - you should he eating them. Your deficit is set up so you will lose that amount even if you never exercise at all.
However, some people eat a percentage of the calories because some estimates can be quite high (like 400 calories for 30 min on the elliptical).
When it comes to having a synced tracker-some people find they estimate correctly, some find they overestimate, some find they underestimate. It takes a good 4-6 weeks (at least) to tell.
And if you’re not weighing your food, all bets are off because chances are that what you’re logging isn’t the amount you’re actually eating-which is Ok if you do so consistently.
Fitbit only transfer the steps to MFP.. anything hard exercise should be input in MFP if that's your main app u use for calories counting.
I personally use MFP to just input the meals.. and I use Fitbit do the CICO calc.. synch the cal in to Fitbit app. Personal pref really ..
No. That’s not correct. Fitbit transfers your TDEE to mfp. Mfp subtracts your NEAT and any workouts you’ve entered on mfp. The difference is your Fitbit adjustment. It has nothing to do with steps. It’s TDEE. The steps are listed there, but they have nothing to do with the adjustment amount. Click the information button or go through the entry in the app to see how rhe calculation is done.
Tdee has nothing to do with extra excercises.. it's based on basic info..
Here's a link to calculation
https://tdeecalculator.net/
TDEE comprises everything: bmr, daily activity, intentional exercise.
BMR once again.. based in basic info.. nothing to do with "extra" excercises.
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
You really, really need to read that link about how the Fitbit adjustment works.
Also-BMR doesn’t factor into this at all. With or without a Fitbit.
But seriously-read that link for how the Fitbit works with mfp.
There are two separate problems here from @lx1x
First he doesn't understand that MFP doen't use TDEE as its initial calculation, it uses NEAT.
Second he doesn't know how FitBit works as far as adjustments when synced to MFP.
Those two things together make this thread a mess.
@lx1x Read the links!!
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Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »So I’m still confused. Are you logging exercise (stationary biking) on mfp? And which Fitbit do you have?
As for what people do...
For exercise calories - you should he eating them. Your deficit is set up so you will lose that amount even if you never exercise at all.
However, some people eat a percentage of the calories because some estimates can be quite high (like 400 calories for 30 min on the elliptical).
When it comes to having a synced tracker-some people find they estimate correctly, some find they overestimate, some find they underestimate. It takes a good 4-6 weeks (at least) to tell.
And if you’re not weighing your food, all bets are off because chances are that what you’re logging isn’t the amount you’re actually eating-which is Ok if you do so consistently.
Fitbit only transfer the steps to MFP.. anything hard exercise should be input in MFP if that's your main app u use for calories counting.
I personally use MFP to just input the meals.. and I use Fitbit do the CICO calc.. synch the cal in to Fitbit app. Personal pref really ..
No. That’s not correct. Fitbit transfers your TDEE to mfp. Mfp subtracts your NEAT and any workouts you’ve entered on mfp. The difference is your Fitbit adjustment. It has nothing to do with steps. It’s TDEE. The steps are listed there, but they have nothing to do with the adjustment amount. Click the information button or go through the entry in the app to see how rhe calculation is done.
Tdee has nothing to do with extra excercises.. it's based on basic info..
Here's a link to calculation
https://tdeecalculator.net/
TDEE comprises everything: bmr, daily activity, intentional exercise.
BMR once again.. based in basic info.. nothing to do with "extra" excercises.
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
You said TDEE, not BMR. Your posts are confusing.
You added BMR.. I'm just clarifying what it is.. its calc on basic info...not "additional excercises"
I feel like we're talking in circles. You said:Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »So I’m still confused. Are you logging exercise (stationary biking) on mfp? And which Fitbit do you have?
As for what people do...
For exercise calories - you should he eating them. Your deficit is set up so you will lose that amount even if you never exercise at all.
However, some people eat a percentage of the calories because some estimates can be quite high (like 400 calories for 30 min on the elliptical).
When it comes to having a synced tracker-some people find they estimate correctly, some find they overestimate, some find they underestimate. It takes a good 4-6 weeks (at least) to tell.
And if you’re not weighing your food, all bets are off because chances are that what you’re logging isn’t the amount you’re actually eating-which is Ok if you do so consistently.
Fitbit only transfer the steps to MFP.. anything hard exercise should be input in MFP if that's your main app u use for calories counting.
I personally use MFP to just input the meals.. and I use Fitbit do the CICO calc.. synch the cal in to Fitbit app. Personal pref really ..
No. That’s not correct. Fitbit transfers your TDEE to mfp. Mfp subtracts your NEAT and any workouts you’ve entered on mfp. The difference is your Fitbit adjustment. It has nothing to do with steps. It’s TDEE. The steps are listed there, but they have nothing to do with the adjustment amount. Click the information button or go through the entry in the app to see how rhe calculation is done.
Tdee has nothing to do with extra excercises.. it's based on basic info..
Here's a link to calculation
https://tdeecalculator.net/
Which is not correct. TDEE includes all activity and intentional exercise.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »So I’m still confused. Are you logging exercise (stationary biking) on mfp? And which Fitbit do you have?
As for what people do...
For exercise calories - you should he eating them. Your deficit is set up so you will lose that amount even if you never exercise at all.
However, some people eat a percentage of the calories because some estimates can be quite high (like 400 calories for 30 min on the elliptical).
When it comes to having a synced tracker-some people find they estimate correctly, some find they overestimate, some find they underestimate. It takes a good 4-6 weeks (at least) to tell.
And if you’re not weighing your food, all bets are off because chances are that what you’re logging isn’t the amount you’re actually eating-which is Ok if you do so consistently.
Fitbit only transfer the steps to MFP.. anything hard exercise should be input in MFP if that's your main app u use for calories counting.
I personally use MFP to just input the meals.. and I use Fitbit do the CICO calc.. synch the cal in to Fitbit app. Personal pref really ..
No. That’s not correct. Fitbit transfers your TDEE to mfp. Mfp subtracts your NEAT and any workouts you’ve entered on mfp. The difference is your Fitbit adjustment. It has nothing to do with steps. It’s TDEE. The steps are listed there, but they have nothing to do with the adjustment amount. Click the information button or go through the entry in the app to see how rhe calculation is done.
Tdee has nothing to do with extra excercises.. it's based on basic info..
Here's a link to calculation
https://tdeecalculator.net/
TDEE comprises everything: bmr, daily activity, intentional exercise.
BMR once again.. based in basic info.. nothing to do with "extra" excercises.
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
You really, really need to read that link about how the Fitbit adjustment works.
Also-BMR doesn’t factor into this at all. With or without a Fitbit.
But seriously-read that link for how the Fitbit works with mfp.
There are two separate problems here from @lx1x
First he doesn't understand that MFP doen't use TDEE as its initial calculation, it uses NEAT.
Second he doesn't know how FitBit works as far as adjustments when synced to MFP.
Those two things together make this thread a mess.
@lx1x Read the links!!
I agree, just read the links, they're a fantastic source.
I apologize for adding to the mess. I just think readers should know that TDEE does include exercise.4 -
Lol...give me a sec.. I'll go on a web explorer to show you pictures. Diff between two apps..Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »So I’m still confused. Are you logging exercise (stationary biking) on mfp? And which Fitbit do you have?
As for what people do...
For exercise calories - you should he eating them. Your deficit is set up so you will lose that amount even if you never exercise at all.
However, some people eat a percentage of the calories because some estimates can be quite high (like 400 calories for 30 min on the elliptical).
When it comes to having a synced tracker-some people find they estimate correctly, some find they overestimate, some find they underestimate. It takes a good 4-6 weeks (at least) to tell.
And if you’re not weighing your food, all bets are off because chances are that what you’re logging isn’t the amount you’re actually eating-which is Ok if you do so consistently.
Fitbit only transfer the steps to MFP.. anything hard exercise should be input in MFP if that's your main app u use for calories counting.
I personally use MFP to just input the meals.. and I use Fitbit do the CICO calc.. synch the cal in to Fitbit app. Personal pref really ..
No. That’s not correct. Fitbit transfers your TDEE to mfp. Mfp subtracts your NEAT and any workouts you’ve entered on mfp. The difference is your Fitbit adjustment. It has nothing to do with steps. It’s TDEE. The steps are listed there, but they have nothing to do with the adjustment amount. Click the information button or go through the entry in the app to see how rhe calculation is done.
Tdee has nothing to do with extra excercises.. it's based on basic info..
Here's a link to calculation
https://tdeecalculator.net/
TDEE comprises everything: bmr, daily activity, intentional exercise.
BMR once again.. based in basic info.. nothing to do with "extra" excercises.
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
You really, really need to read that link about how the Fitbit adjustment works.
Also-BMR doesn’t factor into this at all. With or without a Fitbit.
But seriously-read that link for how the Fitbit works with mfp.
LOL. I’ve been using mfp for 7+ years and have had a Fitbit connected for 5+ years. I don’t need pics because I actually understand how both work individually and connected.
Save your picture taking efforts and put that time to reading the links provided above.
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Yeah-I hadn’t realized he didn’t understand the mfp side at all either when I was responding. I thought he just didn’t understand the fitbit part. The rest has become clear since.
What a mess.
Not sure why the quote didn’t stick. Oh well-responding to @cmriverside3 -
The pictures will be fun.
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Holy crap now I am totally confused...……….almost sorry I even asked at this point can we explain the acronyms to a newbie please
so am I adding my stationery biking each morning into MFP? I will go back and look at the link when I have time but not today
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Above is what MFP looks like..
19xx my your "base" tdee.. + only the steps getting counted as excercise..
What Fitbit looks like..
The tdee on Fitbit.. 3k+ (which added all my excercises at the real time)0 -
Above is what MFP looks like..
19xx my your "base" tdee.. + only the steps getting counted as excercise..
What Fitbit looks like..
The tdee on Fitbit.. 3k+ (which added all my excercises at the real time)
Please read the links above.
These photos show exactly nothing to do with the calorie adjusment.
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Holy crap now I am totally confused...……….almost sorry I even asked at this point can we explain the acronyms to a newbie please
so am I adding my stationery biking each morning into MFP? I will go back and look at the link when I have time but not today
It's not an easy answer. You haven't answered the issues already asked.
In General - Yes - eat the exercise calories. But you need to have it synced in the right way, and you're not going to understand it reading this thread. Until you understand it, eat them all. You need way more than 1300 calories to live, work and exercise. Try eating 1500 total calories until you get the understanding that you need.
A few days of being unsure aren't going to do you any harm. Read that FAQ when you get a chance and join that FitBit group or at least read around in that group.1 -
It amuses me that the title of this thread is "Clarification."3
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cmriverside wrote: »Holy crap now I am totally confused...……….almost sorry I even asked at this point can we explain the acronyms to a newbie please
so am I adding my stationery biking each morning into MFP? I will go back and look at the link when I have time but not today
It's not an easy answer. You haven't answered the issues already asked.
In General - Yes - eat the exercise calories. But you need to have it synced in the right way, and you're not going to understand it reading this thread. Until you understand it, eat them all. You need way more than 1300 calories to live, work and exercise. Try eating 1500 total calories until you get the understanding that you need.
A few days of being unsure aren't going to do you any harm. Read that FAQ when you get a chance and join that FitBit group or at least read around in that group.
what issues have I not answered...………0 -
cmriverside wrote: »Holy crap now I am totally confused...……….almost sorry I even asked at this point can we explain the acronyms to a newbie please
so am I adding my stationery biking each morning into MFP? I will go back and look at the link when I have time but not today
It's not an easy answer. You haven't answered the issues already asked.
In General - Yes - eat the exercise calories. But you need to have it synced in the right way, and you're not going to understand it reading this thread. Until you understand it, eat them all. You need way more than 1300 calories to live, work and exercise. Try eating 1500 total calories until you get the understanding that you need.
A few days of being unsure aren't going to do you any harm. Read that FAQ when you get a chance and join that FitBit group or at least read around in that group.
what issues have I not answered...………
Just stick with the answers @Duck_Puddle gave you combined with that FAQ thread and the thread I linked about how MFP calculates your calories.
Eat back your exercise calories once you get the device synced correctly.
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cmriverside wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Holy crap now I am totally confused...……….almost sorry I even asked at this point can we explain the acronyms to a newbie please
so am I adding my stationery biking each morning into MFP? I will go back and look at the link when I have time but not today
It's not an easy answer. You haven't answered the issues already asked.
In General - Yes - eat the exercise calories. But you need to have it synced in the right way, and you're not going to understand it reading this thread. Until you understand it, eat them all. You need way more than 1300 calories to live, work and exercise. Try eating 1500 total calories until you get the understanding that you need.
A few days of being unsure aren't going to do you any harm. Read that FAQ when you get a chance and join that FitBit group or at least read around in that group.
what issues have I not answered...………
Just stick with the answers @Duck_Puddle gave you combined with that FAQ thread and the thread I linked about how MFP calculates your calories.
Eat back your exercise calories once you get the device synced correctly.
my device is synced the problem after reading the link seem to be me double dipping on exercises. Thanks1
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