HELP! Food allergies limiting diet!
time4thebell
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Hi! I’ve found out that I am highly allergic to...gluten, dairy, eggs, & rice (among other things). Most gluten free items are made with brown rice, so that’s a no go. I’m finding it hard to find ways to be creative! Any suggestions? Feel free to add me!
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Did you go to an allergist (a doctor) or to a nutritionist or wellness practitioner?9
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Yes, how were your allergies diagnosed? Seems like a lot of things to be diagnosed as being 'highly allergic' to.6
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I went to a naturopathic doctor & she scheduled the testing. I’ve had debilitating migraines all my life & been to countless neurologists & other doctors to no avail.14
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time4thebell wrote: »I went to a naturopathic doctor & she scheduled the testing. I’ve had debilitating migraines all my life & been to countless neurologists & other doctors to no avail.
What did the testing consist of?6 -
Sounds like you are going to be doing more cooking from scratch, which is good news, as premade GF items tend to be rather expensive and more caloric.
Ask the doctor who diagnosed you to refer you to a dietitian.
"Wild rice" is not botanically rice and is gluten free. It is a lot more expensive than regular rice so is often mixed with regular rice, but you can find 100% wild rice at Whole Foods, Trader Joe's and larger supermarkets, depending on where you live.
https://www.glutenfreeliving.com/gluten-free-foods/gluten-free-nutrition/gluten-questions-and-answers/wild-rice/
You can also get it at Amazon, but it is much cheaper at a supermarket. My Whole Foods has it for $6.49 a pound. https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=wild+rice&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
Potatoes and legumes would be a much cheaper option. There are also a plethora of other GF grains that might work for you.
https://wholegrainscouncil.org/whole-grains-101/whats-whole-grain-refined-grain/gluten-free-whole-grains
**Oats are inherently gluten-free, but are frequently contaminated with wheat during growing or processing. Several companies (Bob’s Red Mill, Cream Hill Estates, GF Harvest (formerly Gluten Free Oats), Montana Gluten Free, and Avena Foods are currently among those that offer pure, uncontaminated oats. Ask your physician if these oats are acceptable for you.
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Hi. Assuming these are diagnosed allergies, sometimes you'll have to settle for staples that you love over creativity unfortunately. I'm allergic to sulfates and sulfites which are in so many things and it severely limits my food options. It comes down to finding what won't aggravate your allergies and also tastes good to you, then you can try finding recipes around whatever those things are.3
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I do think your first step, OP - before you go changing your life and your diet dramatically - would be to have your 'diagnosis' confirmed by an actual medically-recognized physician who specializes in allergy testing and treatment. (Hint: Naturopaths aren't.)
Make sure to take your 'test results' with you. I think you'll find, sadly, that you've been taken advantage of, here.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/tests-for-food-allergies-sensitivities-a-waste-of-money-doctor-says/article535082/
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While it is very relieving to be offered a solution to a debilitating problem and while random changes to one's diet may sometimes correlate with feeling better, thus "validating" the remedy, I would personally want a board certified doctor to confirm my tests and allergies before changing my whole life around to accommodate such results.15
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snickerscharlie wrote: »I do think your first step, OP - before you go changing your life and your diet dramatically - would be to have your 'diagnosis' confirmed by an actual medically-recognized physician who specializes in allergy testing and treatment. (Hint: Naturopaths aren't.)
Make sure to take your 'test results' with you. I think you'll find, sadly, that you've been taken advantage of, here.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/tests-for-food-allergies-sensitivities-a-waste-of-money-doctor-says/article535082/
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input so much. I actually had my test results confirmed by my regular GP; however, neither he nor any other board certified doctor ever did anything other than throw pills at me to stop the migraines. I had been on several daily preventative medications for 30 years! Since I went to this naturopathic dr, I do not take anything! Plus, bonus - no more migraines!2
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time4thebell wrote: »Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input so much. I actually had my test results confirmed by my regular GP; however, neither he nor any other board certified doctor ever did anything other than throw pills at me to stop the migraines. I had been on several daily preventative medications for 30 years! Since I went to this naturopathic dr, I do not take anything! Plus, bonus - no more migraines!
Your GP did a patch test for all those allergies?
TBH, if cutting those food groups out helps the migraines then great, but if you cut everything out in one go, how do you know where the allergy actually lies?14 -
time4thebell wrote: »Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input so much. I actually had my test results confirmed by my regular GP; however, neither he nor any other board certified doctor ever did anything other than throw pills at me to stop the migraines. I had been on several daily preventative medications for 30 years! Since I went to this naturopathic dr, I do not take anything! Plus, bonus - no more migraines!
How long ago were you diagnosed with these allergies?5 -
No, I brought him the lab results & he agreed with them.
*I see your point about not knowing which one helped! I’m honestly afraid to test it by eating them again, even one at a time.
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It was almost a year ago.1
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time4thebell wrote: »BTW - how do you show what the person wrote in your replies? I thought maybe it was the “Quote” button, but that doesn’t show who your quoting.
It does show who you're quoting at the top of the post?2 -
Your GP did a patch test for all those allergies?
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I had to visit a specialist clinic to get tested and diagnosed but I was tested for about 40 allergens with pin pricks all over my arms. It was the most itchy day of my life 😳3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »time4thebell wrote: »BTW - how do you show what the person wrote in your replies? I thought maybe it was the “Quote” button, but that doesn’t show who your quoting.
It does show who you're quoting at the top of the post?
Got it, I didn’t see it at first. Thanks2 -
So you eat meat, veg and fruit. Limited, verified uncomtaminated graines and legumes. Not a biggie. Add in oils and fats as needed for cooking. I see no need to debate the ops diagnosis. There is far too much of that here. Weight loss is about calories. Not about any specific foods but about specific amounts of foods weighed properly for your needs. It sounds like you have some work to do, so find some meals that work for you and that you enjoy and stick with those while you learn new ways to cook and branch out. When I figured out it was gluten that triggered my migraines it was a big shift and lots of learning but soon it becomes second nature.3
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claireychn074 wrote: »
Your GP did a patch test for all those allergies?
No, he just reviewed the results from the lab #s and agreed. However, I am actually going tomorrow for a patch test (with a regular dr) to verify & double check.9 -
You could try looking at vegan recipes. A lot of them are naturally gluten free, or have gluten free recommendations. That takes care of the dairy, egg and gluten part of your allergies.0
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youngmomtaz wrote: »So you eat meat, veg and fruit. Limited, verified uncomtaminated graines and legumes. Not a biggie. Add in oils and fats as needed for cooking. I see no need to debate the ops diagnosis. There is far too much of that here. Weight loss is about calories. Not about any specific foods but about specific amounts of foods weighed properly for your needs. It sounds like you have some work to do, so find some meals that work for you and that you enjoy and stick with those while you learn new ways to cook and branch out. When I figured out it was gluten that triggered my migraines it was a big shift and lots of learning but soon it becomes second nature.
Thank you so much! 😊0 -
youngmomtaz wrote: »So you eat meat, veg and fruit. Limited, verified uncomtaminated graines and legumes. Not a biggie. Add in oils and fats as needed for cooking. I see no need to debate the ops diagnosis. There is far too much of that here. Weight loss is about calories. Not about any specific foods but about specific amounts of foods weighed properly for your needs. It sounds like you have some work to do, so find some meals that work for you and that you enjoy and stick with those while you learn new ways to cook and branch out. When I figured out it was gluten that triggered my migraines it was a big shift and lots of learning but soon it becomes second nature.
Not seeing where the OP mentions needing to lose weight. I took her use of "Diet" in the title to refer to what, specifically, she can and can't eat, which is what her opening post also refers to.8 -
time4thebell wrote: »claireychn074 wrote: »
Your GP did a patch test for all those allergies?
No, he just reviewed the results from the lab #s and agreed. However, I am actually going tomorrow for a patch test (with a regular dr) to verify & double check.
So this is a good step: there is a difference between full blown allergies (ie avoid at all costs) and intolerances (ie may be okay in small quantities occasionally). Depending on the results, you’ll be able to start planning meals without the allergens or just occasionally if you can tolerate low amounts. And you need to start reading absolutely every single packet of food: you get used to scanning quickly for the things you need to avoid!6 -
time4thebell wrote: »Hi! I’ve found out that I am highly allergic to...gluten, dairy, eggs, & rice (among other things). Most gluten free items are made with brown rice, so that’s a no go. I’m finding it hard to find ways to be creative! Any suggestions? Feel free to add me!
Heya! I will add you, and see what I can suggest!! (I have big ole allergies as well, and while I can now do rice sometimes, I couldn't for quite a while, nor do dairy, gluten, eggs...and other things. So most of what I have to suggest is pretty much personal experience. :-)
Also, just wanted to say, based on some of the other comments - congrats on getting the doctor to look at the test results and actually pay attention and agree! I completely sympathize with getting little to no help by your regular doctors and needing to go outside of that group to GET help. I think many people who don't have rare or quirky problems do not realize just many issues are nearly impossible to get help with unless you are really, really lucky with your doctor.
So, onto the suggestions
First - if you wanna list all that you can't have, I would be happy to suggest as specifically as I can. I was so sick for a while that I had about 5 foods I could eat, plus salt, and had had to work my way back up to more foods. So I have a lot of different food variations as a result. :-)
Second - This little cookbook might be useful. Gluten-Free Without Rice: Easy Cooking for Variety on a Gluten-Free Diet by Nicolette M. Dumke
You can find it at Amazon. I would only buy this second hand, for as cheap as possible. It's a pamphlet rather than an actual book and no way is it worth the full price (like $13 or some ridiculous thing). Maybe worth $2-$5 or so, I'd say. Mostly it has some flour mixture ideas that don't involve rice flour, so it's nice for that.
However...the recipes weren't that great, honestly. I mostly was grateful for it for ideas for where to start, like for a base to build off of, if that makes sense?
Third - Even though I just made the 'without rice' suggestion, honestly, the easiest, and cheapest, way to go for me was to just avoid GF baking. Just switch the entire diet over, you know? Avoid almost all grains, basically. In large part for this reason: if you have trouble with almost any grain but gluten, it's nearly impossible to avoid cross-contamination in OTHER grains and flours. I have problems with oats, even GF ones, and it's been difficult to find most grains that aren't cross-contaminated with oats. I imagine rice might have similar limitations. For me, I end up with lower level, slowly worsening symptoms when I get this kind of contamination.
Fourth - if you are making foods and want a carb dish/base for it, however, here's some things I have tried:
- cauliflower rice - rice blended up until it is small like rice and then cooked with seasonings. I didn't used to like cauliflower, but with some proper seasonings (I used fresh turmeric, ginger and/or finely minced and browned onions, usually) this is pretty good.
- mashed root veggies. Potato, celery root, turnips, parsnips, or any combination thereof - blend it with meat or veg broth, and it's usually pretty nice.
- polenta - if you can tolerate corn. And depending on the gluten free needs - I've had a hard time finding truly GF polenta you can make yourself (not just pre-made in a tube).
- cubed and fried or baked root veggies - sweet potato, potato, turnip, etc...
- Porridge fries - if there is any porridge you can manage, from any grain, make it really thick, add some seasonings, and put it in a bread pan in the fridge. When it is super firm, you take it out, cut it into 'fry' shapes, and then fry it. It ends up crispy outside, but very soft inside. I don't do this almost at all, but when I have, it was awesome.
- Beans. Also, if you can, get a grinder and you can make legume based flours yourself. There are lots of fun things you can do with legume based flours, that are traditional recipes from other countries (socca for example is a French flatbread that is chickpea based. India has some chickpea based ones as well. Veggies burgers can be made with various legume based flours - if not with just mashed legumes. )
- Falafel - I LOVE homemade falafal. You can make it without flour or starches if you have raw, soaked chickpeas, onion (or zucchini), parsley, and salt. Blend it all up together in a food processor until it is like very thick paste (or mortar and pestle. If the dough is too wet, it needs more beans. Too dry, it needs more onion. You can cook it in 1/2-1 inch high oil in frying pan, slightly flattened little rounds about golf ball size, for a couple minutes each side. It will JUST hold together when you gently put it in the pan, if you do it right. IT is great to have with pickled veggies, homemade hummus (you can make it without tahini and just use olive oil, if you like), wrapped in a lettuce leaf.
Fifth - If you can have nuts and haven't tried cashew cream, I highly recommend. You can make it yourself easy - just soak raw cashews overnight, then blend up with a little water and bam, cashew cream. It thickens when heated, much like dairy, so is great for something creamy and thick. It has a slight sweet taste, so is better with highly seasoned things, or things that sweet pairs well with. YOu can even make it with roasted cashews, but then it only pairs with savory foods.
Sixth - I highly recommend an herb garden. I helps SO much to add a lot of variety in flavors to dishes that may otherwise be the same. But at the same time, if you have the herbs yourself, it doesn't cost so much to try and buy tons at the store, you know?
That's all that's coming to mind right off, but again, if you can list a few more things you can't have, I'd be happy to add some suggestions in.
Feel free to message me, if you like. :-)
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time4thebell wrote: »Hi! I’ve found out that I am highly allergic to...gluten, dairy, eggs, & rice (among other things). Most gluten free items are made with brown rice, so that’s a no go. I’m finding it hard to find ways to be creative! Any suggestions? Feel free to add me!
Heya! I will add you, and see what I can suggest!! (I have big ole allergies as well, and while I can now do rice sometimes, I couldn't for quite a while, nor do dairy, gluten, eggs...and other things. So most of what I have to suggest is pretty much personal experience. :-)
Also, just wanted to say, based on some of the other comments - congrats on getting the doctor to look at the test results and actually pay attention and agree! I completely sympathize with getting little to no help by your regular doctors and needing to go outside of that group to GET help. I think many people who don't have rare or quirky problems do not realize just many issues are nearly impossible to get help with unless you are really, really lucky with your doctor.
So, onto the suggestions
First - if you wanna list all that you can't have, I would be happy to suggest as specifically as I can. I was so sick for a while that I had about 5 foods I could eat, plus salt, and had had to work my way back up to more foods. So I have a lot of different food variations as a result. :-)
Second - This little cookbook might be useful. Gluten-Free Without Rice: Easy Cooking for Variety on a Gluten-Free Diet by Nicolette M. Dumke
You can find it at Amazon. I would only buy this second hand, for as cheap as possible. It's a pamphlet rather than an actual book and no way is it worth the full price (like $13 or some ridiculous thing). Maybe worth $2-$5 or so, I'd say. Mostly it has some flour mixture ideas that don't involve rice flour, so it's nice for that.
However...the recipes weren't that great, honestly. I mostly was grateful for it for ideas for where to start, like for a base to build off of, if that makes sense?
Third - Even though I just made the 'without rice' suggestion, honestly, the easiest, and cheapest, way to go for me was to just avoid GF baking. Just switch the entire diet over, you know? Avoid almost all grains, basically. In large part for this reason: if you have trouble with almost any grain but gluten, it's nearly impossible to avoid cross-contamination in OTHER grains and flours. I have problems with oats, even GF ones, and it's been difficult to find most grains that aren't cross-contaminated with oats. I imagine rice might have similar limitations. For me, I end up with lower level, slowly worsening symptoms when I get this kind of contamination.
Fourth - if you are making foods and want a carb dish/base for it, however, here's some things I have tried:
- cauliflower rice - rice blended up until it is small like rice and then cooked with seasonings. I didn't used to like cauliflower, but with some proper seasonings (I used fresh turmeric, ginger and/or finely minced and browned onions, usually) this is pretty good.
- mashed root veggies. Potato, celery root, turnips, parsnips, or any combination thereof - blend it with meat or veg broth, and it's usually pretty nice.
- polenta - if you can tolerate corn. And depending on the gluten free needs - I've had a hard time finding truly GF polenta you can make yourself (not just pre-made in a tube).
- cubed and fried or baked root veggies - sweet potato, potato, turnip, etc...
- Porridge fries - if there is any porridge you can manage, from any grain, make it really thick, add some seasonings, and put it in a bread pan in the fridge. When it is super firm, you take it out, cut it into 'fry' shapes, and then fry it. It ends up crispy outside, but very soft inside. I don't do this almost at all, but when I have, it was awesome.
- Beans. Also, if you can, get a grinder and you can make legume based flours yourself. There are lots of fun things you can do with legume based flours, that are traditional recipes from other countries (socca for example is a French flatbread that is chickpea based. India has some chickpea based ones as well. Veggies burgers can be made with various legume based flours - if not with just mashed legumes. )
- Falafel - I LOVE homemade falafal. You can make it without flour or starches if you have raw, soaked chickpeas, onion (or zucchini), parsley, and salt. Blend it all up together in a food processor until it is like very thick paste (or mortar and pestle. If the dough is too wet, it needs more beans. Too dry, it needs more onion. You can cook it in 1/2-1 inch high oil in frying pan, slightly flattened little rounds about golf ball size, for a couple minutes each side. It will JUST hold together when you gently put it in the pan, if you do it right. IT is great to have with pickled veggies, homemade hummus (you can make it without tahini and just use olive oil, if you like), wrapped in a lettuce leaf.
Fifth - If you can have nuts and haven't tried cashew cream, I highly recommend. You can make it yourself easy - just soak raw cashews overnight, then blend up with a little water and bam, cashew cream. It thickens when heated, much like dairy, so is great for something creamy and thick. It has a slight sweet taste, so is better with highly seasoned things, or things that sweet pairs well with. YOu can even make it with roasted cashews, but then it only pairs with savory foods.
Sixth - I highly recommend an herb garden. I helps SO much to add a lot of variety in flavors to dishes that may otherwise be the same. But at the same time, if you have the herbs yourself, it doesn't cost so much to try and buy tons at the store, you know?
That's all that's coming to mind right off, but again, if you can list a few more things you can't have, I'd be happy to add some suggestions in.
Feel free to message me, if you like. :-)
Wow! Thank you so much for all the suggestions!!! I added you so we can chat there!0 -
Like you, I am also allergic to wheat and rice. Brown rice specifically has a chance to kill me, so it’s awful to find so many gluten free goodies that have rice as the substitute. Very frustrating!
With that said, doesn’t help with the egg, but look up Paleo recipes. That’s one of the top elimination diets (removes most of the top foods people are allergic to: wheat, rice, dairy, legumes) out there in terms of popularity. I used Paleo to self diagnose my gluten allergy when I first started realizing my autoimmune disease was flaring up based on what I was eating. Paleo might help you, too. Not necessarily as an eating strategy altogether, but perhaps some ideas on new recipes you can make.
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Like you, I am also allergic to wheat and rice. Brown rice specifically has a chance to kill me, so it’s awful to find so many gluten free goodies that have rice as the substitute. Very frustrating!
With that said, doesn’t help with the egg, but look up Paleo recipes. That’s one of the top elimination diets (removes most of the top foods people are allergic to: wheat, rice, dairy, legumes) out there in terms of popularity. I used Paleo to self diagnose my gluten allergy when I first started realizing my autoimmune disease was flaring up based on what I was eating. Paleo might help you, too. Not necessarily as an eating strategy altogether, but perhaps some ideas on new recipes you can make.
Good luck!
Thanks for the recommendation! I will definitely look into Paleo!0 -
time4thebell wrote: »Like you, I am also allergic to wheat and rice. Brown rice specifically has a chance to kill me, so it’s awful to find so many gluten free goodies that have rice as the substitute. Very frustrating!
With that said, doesn’t help with the egg, but look up Paleo recipes. That’s one of the top elimination diets (removes most of the top foods people are allergic to: wheat, rice, dairy, legumes) out there in terms of popularity. I used Paleo to self diagnose my gluten allergy when I first started realizing my autoimmune disease was flaring up based on what I was eating. Paleo might help you, too. Not necessarily as an eating strategy altogether, but perhaps some ideas on new recipes you can make.
Good luck!
Thanks for the recommendation! I will definitely look into Paleo!
I went paleo when first diagnosed with a wheat germ allergy. I found that while I feel better avoiding dairy (less bloated and more regular) I wasn’t willing to give up cheese if I didn’t 100% have to. I do think you could find a lot of good paleo recipes though that may help you.
I’ll second what so many have said though about getting a true medical diagnosis. It seems unlikely that any adult would have that many “extreme” allergies. I’m allergic to shellfish and wheat germ. If I eat shellfish I’ll die. That’s an extreme allergy. Wheat gives me hives that blister if scratched. While a pain I don’t really consider it extreme since it isn’t life threatening and if exposed I can usually take benedryl and a nap while the reaction runs its course.
Lastly, while rare, I know from personal experience that some allergies develop as we get older. I’ve never been able to eat shellfish but my wheat allergy was diagnosed at 30. I’d had the strange painful rashes start developing in my late teens progressively getting worse. As a small child though I ate wheat all the time with no problems. It happens. Hopefully in your case it didn’t happen with that many foods. I’m crossing my fingers for you.3 -
When you get it confirmed by you doctor see if you can get a listed of foods you can have.3
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