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MartyQ2019
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All the discission this past two weeks and the studies to support 2 eggs max per day has me bummed! I LOVE eggs! And then today my Bicycling Magazine says 1 egg per day! I'm ready to go into a deep depression! 😉
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From NHS.uk:
"There is no recommended limit on how many eggs people should eat. Eggs can be enjoyed as part of a healthy, balanced diet, but it's best to cook them without adding salt or fat."
You will prise my eggs from my cold dead hands. Not sure if there is a health scare where you are but in the UK you can binge on eggs if you want. (Disclaimer for this site: Please ensure your binge is within your calorie limit )10 -
From NHS.uk:
"There is no recommended limit on how many eggs people should eat. Eggs can be enjoyed as part of a healthy, balanced diet, but it's best to cook them without adding salt or fat."
You will prise my eggs from my cold dead hands. Not sure if there is a health scare where you are but in the UK you can binge on eggs if you want. (Disclaimer for this site: Please ensure your binge is within your calorie limit )
That may be very well true but the most current research which came out this week is saying not to eat more than 1 a day ...... again.
Who knows what to believe with eggs anymore?2 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »Who knows what to believe with eggs anymore?
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I wonder where you are finding your information. Eggs are highly nutritious, like milk they contain everything required to sustain a living being, after all that is what fertilised eggs will be. Most of the information I read years ago was about cholesterol levels, its now been realised how fundamental cholesterol is to our lives and if the body does not have enough cholesterol it is capable of making up the requirements. I realise there can be issues within the endocrine system which can cause excess to be made but those conditions are less frequent. As long as the number of eggs you consume falls within the calorific/dietary component healthy balance for protein, fats, minerals etc, its all to the good.7
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I wonder where you are finding your information. Eggs are highly nutritious, like milk they contain everything required to sustain a living being, after all that is what fertilised eggs will be. Most of the information I read years ago was about cholesterol levels, its now been realised how fundamental cholesterol is to our lives and if the body does not have enough cholesterol it is capable of making up the requirements. I realise there can be issues within the endocrine system which can cause excess to be made but those conditions are less frequent. As long as the number of eggs you consume falls within the calorific/dietary component healthy balance for protein, fats, minerals etc, its all to the good.
From here...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/03/15/eggs-are-bad-again-new-study-raises-cholesterol-questions/80qdC0BWkeWdlnxcGZrcHJ/story.html
which is based on this study
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/27284874 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »Who knows what to believe with eggs anymore?
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I take health/nutrition news with a large grain of salt. I’ve been around long enough to see too many contradictions. I go by the general rule to eat as close to nature as I can (including eggs!), with everything else in moderation. This news won’t change my egg consumption.7
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I love eggs! I try to eat 2 every other day. I like their protein status and my cholesterol has always been good. I say if eggs are within your goals then just eat in moderation.0
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I eat two for breakfast every morning and I’m certainly healthier than when I didn’t. Official position on eggs changes so often and so frequently that I’ll just keep eating them my way unless the doctor says that I have an issue that means I can’t.1
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I wonder where you are finding your information. Eggs are highly nutritious, like milk they contain everything required to sustain a living being, after all that is what fertilised eggs will be. Most of the information I read years ago was about cholesterol levels, its now been realised how fundamental cholesterol is to our lives and if the body does not have enough cholesterol it is capable of making up the requirements. I realise there can be issues within the endocrine system which can cause excess to be made but those conditions are less frequent. As long as the number of eggs you consume falls within the calorific/dietary component healthy balance for protein, fats, minerals etc, its all to the good.
It's been all over the news the past few days, about how eggs may in fact not be that great for you. There's a thread going on in the Debate section about it.1 -
When new studies come out contradicting previous studies, which contradicted previous studies, which contradicted . . . ad nauseum I take the middle ground. I don't think they will ever agree on how good or bad eggs, red wine, and coffee are for you so I will go right ahead and enjoy in moderation (which for eggs is about a dozen a week). Caffeine does affect me so moderation in coffee means 2 regular or 1 large cup a day.
To me, eggs are the perfect food. Tasty, nutritious, and they come in their own little single serving biodegradable package.10 -
The thing is, scientific evidence needs to be looked at over dozens of studies and years. One study or report does not "change" the science. It may point out possible rocks to look under, but it doesn't really change what is known.
The media however needs whiz-bang clickbait, and "this is interesting but probably doesn't mean much when taken together with the whole of research on this subject" doesn't cut it. So they frame one study as being definitive. They draw overly dramatic conclusions when something more mundane is the reality.
That's why it seems like science keeps changing its mind on things like eggs, coffee, butter, wine. It's not science, it's media reporting.
If a food is a staple of your daily diet and you are concerned about how it affects your health longterm, you do need to do some homework. Find as many studies as you can over the last 10 years or so, and look at the actual studies, not articles about them. But don't change your diet over media reports of one study. I mean, eggs have been a staple of the human diet for so long, it seems like it would be super obvious if they were terrible for you.15 -
The thing is, scientific evidence needs to be looked at over dozens of studies and years. One study or report does not "change" the science. It may point out possible rocks to look under, but it doesn't really change what is known.
The media however needs whiz-bang clickbait, and "this is interesting but probably doesn't mean much when taken together with the whole of research on this subject" doesn't cut it. So they frame one study as being definitive. They draw overly dramatic conclusions when something more mundane is the reality.
That's why it seems like science keeps changing its mind on things like eggs, coffee, butter, wine. It's not science, it's media reporting.
If a food is a staple of your daily diet and you are concerned about how it affects your health longterm, you do need to do some homework. Find as many studies as you can over the last 10 years or so, and look at the actual studies, not articles about them. But don't change your diet over media reports of one study. I mean, eggs have been a staple of the human diet for so long, it seems like it would be super obvious if they were terrible for you.
So. Much. This.6 -
There was one recent study that showed a possible link in egg consumption and increased mortality. It was far from definitive though, and there has been prior research that contradicted this. So while it was interesting and worthy of further study, there was no need to go crazy in regards to eggs based off of it.
Unfortunately, the media was like "OMG, eggs will kill youz nows," without any sort of nuance or proper context. That is why everyone is overreacting to it.
Diet research is notoriously difficult, since it is observational, which makes it hard to pin down specific causes. For instance, did eggs cause an increase in mortality, or did people who ate eggs also happen to engage in other activities that caused this mortality increase, so the like was correlated, but not causative? That's why a lot of times it can seem like studies have conflicting conclusions.
For me personally, it would take a lot more than that one study to cause me to give up eggs. And it's important to remember, that everything in life is about opportunity cost. Even if eggs do have some sort of negative health effect associated with them, I know personally that if I wasn't eating them, I would be probably eating something that was "worse" for me, at the very least in the sense that these things had more calories and will slow my weight loss. Obesity is the one thing we are sure of that causes a whole bunch of health and mortality issues.4 -
This is a source I trust. Cliff notes, eggs are good.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-doctors-farmacy-with-mark-hyman-m-d/id1382804627?mt=2&i=10004328592856 -
PS - longest lived woman ever ate 3 eggs a day. Died at 1170
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I interpreted the report as saying be careful if you are concerned about cholesterol. Some people are and some are not - depends on overall eating habits and genetics. I do have to watch it but eat only 4 eggs a week.
Looking at personal examples such as a 117 year old woman is not applicable. You need to know your own medical history and heredity also.2 -
Dandylines wrote: »I interpreted the report as saying be careful if you are concerned about cholesterol. Some people are and some are not - depends on overall eating habits and genetics. I do have to watch it but eat only 4 eggs a week.
Looking at personal examples such as a 117 year old woman is not applicable. You need to know your own medical history and heredity also.
You also need to be aware that dietary cholesterol has only minimal effect on serum cholesterol
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Ok, but even the abstract says that the association was no longer significant once adjusted for total cholesterol.
So the study found that people who eat more cholesterol had more cardiac events.
I guess whether it is relevant is whether this was independent of other risk factors, and how significant it was once the other risk factors such as lack of exercise and obesity were equalized.
And by significant here I don't mean statistically significant but rather along the lines of an extra 1 in 1000 people were affected solely because they consumed cholesterol in excess of ????4
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