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Tashanicole444
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Hello I was wondering if anyone has had success at maintaining weight even when macros are way off . For example minimum protein , low fat , very high carb but calories are at maintenance level ? Can you eat junk food as long as calories eqUate what is needed.
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Yes.3
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Are you WFPB? And, yes, no matter what your macros are, you can maintain your weight if you are at homeostasis. But you might not feel great if your macros aren’t optimized for your very individual needs. As for carbs, there’s a big difference between junk food and vegetables.6
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I eat a higher carb diet with lower protein and fat. Been maintaining 8 months6
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Yes you can.1
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You certainly can. But there is a difference between could and should. That type of diet would work for weight maintence, but depending on the foods eaten on the diet, might not be good for optimal health. You may find yourself not feeling very well if you eat a diet that deprives you of fats, proteins, and other nutrients while eating mostly "junk" food.10
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Over time the more simple sugars you consume you run the greater risk of developing type 2 diabetes which is currently at epidemic rates worldwide.
That's what junk food does to the body. Regardless of how much you weigh, too much simple sugars and for that matter too much sodium can wreak havoc on your organs.
Unfortunately even skinny people figure they can eat whatever they want without consequences.
Break that bad habit now. Opt for healthy choices, organic where possible.49 -
Hello I was wondering if anyone has had success at maintaining weight even when macros are way off . For example minimum protein , low fat , very high carb but calories are at maintenance level ? Can you eat junk food as long as calories eqUate what is needed.
Here's a thread you might like that answers the "junk food" question.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
And you can maintain, gain, or lose weight with a large variety of macro combinations. If you have specific goals then at times certain macro percentages might help more, but not usually by any huge factors.
Look at it this way. A very large segment of the poplulation worldwide doesn't track or log calories or macros. And the amount of exercise they do varies greatly. But they come in all shapes, sizes, and fitness levels regardless.
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Over time the more simple sugars you consume you run the greater risk of developing type 2 diabetes which is currently at epidemic rates worldwide.
That's what junk food does to the body. Regardless of how much you weigh, too much simple sugars and for that matter too much sodium can wreak havoc on your organs.
Unfortunately even skinny people figure they can eat whatever they want without consequences.
Break that bad habit now. Opt for healthy choices, organic where possible.
No. It doesn't. The main causes of T2D are genetics and obesity. And since sugar-rich foods tend to be higher in calories (not just due to sugar, but the sugar-fat combo), it is possible that eating too many of them will push you out of maintenance and, over time, lead to weight gain, which will lead to obesity and the increased risk. But that's not the sugar causing it; it's the obesity.
Fruits are mostly simple sugars. Sodium isn't a problem for most people. No food in isolation is healthy or unhealthy; it needs to be looked at in the context of overall diet. And there's nothing to indicate that organic foods are any different nutritionally than non-organic.29 -
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Yes u can maintain weight with high carb and low protein and fat with regular exercises0
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mahesht2010 wrote: »Yes u can maintain weight with high carb and low protein and fat with regular exercises
Or without exercise if you eat at maintenance1 -
Yes but without exercise is not good for overall health0
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Yes... I eat pretty much what I feel like as long as it stays within my calories and I have maintained for a year now1
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Over time the more simple sugars you consume you run the greater risk of developing type 2 diabetes which is currently at epidemic rates worldwide.
That's what junk food does to the body. Regardless of how much you weigh, too much simple sugars and for that matter too much sodium can wreak havoc on your organs.
Unfortunately even skinny people figure they can eat whatever they want without consequences.
Break that bad habit now. Opt for healthy choices, organic where possible.
Do you ever reply to your posts?1 -
The research I have read says, as long as fiber and pro are equated, fat and carbs do not matter as long as calories are equal.1
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estherdragonbat wrote: »
No. It doesn't. The main causes of T2D are genetics and obesity. And since sugar-rich foods tend to be higher in calories (not just due to sugar, but the sugar-fat combo), it is possible that eating too many of them will push you out of maintenance and, over time, lead to weight gain, which will lead to obesity and the increased risk. But that's not the sugar causing it; it's the obesity.
Fruits are mostly simple sugars. Sodium isn't a problem for most people. No food in isolation is healthy or unhealthy; it needs to be looked at in the context of overall diet. And there's nothing to indicate that organic foods are any different nutritionally than non-organic.
I am sorry but genetics does not play much of a role in T2D or fatty liver for that matter. The two tend to go hand in hand. Additional sugars found in refined carbs and sweets and soda are major drivers of obesity and T2D. Fructose especially is terrible for you and really should be avoided for the most part.
It is very possible to be at optimal weight and have fatty liver and be at risk of T2D. To answer the OP. Yes you can have a diet of all junk food and maintain but personally I think it’s a mistake.
Over a long period of time junk food and sugar do bad things to the body. There is a reason it’s called JUNK food.16 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »
No. It doesn't. The main causes of T2D are genetics and obesity. And since sugar-rich foods tend to be higher in calories (not just due to sugar, but the sugar-fat combo), it is possible that eating too many of them will push you out of maintenance and, over time, lead to weight gain, which will lead to obesity and the increased risk. But that's not the sugar causing it; it's the obesity.
Fruits are mostly simple sugars. Sodium isn't a problem for most people. No food in isolation is healthy or unhealthy; it needs to be looked at in the context of overall diet. And there's nothing to indicate that organic foods are any different nutritionally than non-organic.
I am sorry but genetics does not play much of a role in T2D or fatty liver for that matter. The two tend to go hand in hand. Additional sugars found in refined carbs and sweets and soda are major drivers of obesity and T2D. Fructose especially is terrible for you and really should be avoided for the most part.
It is very possible to be at optimal weight and have fatty liver and be at risk of T2D. To answer the OP. Yes you can have a diet of all junk food and maintain but personally I think it’s a mistake.
Over a long period of time junk food and sugar do bad things to the body. There is a reason it’s called JUNK food.
Can you explain how you know better than the American Diabetes Association? What data are you basing the bolded on?
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/genetics-of-diabetes.html
Regardless, OP was asking about weight, not health. Nor did she say she wanted to eat all junk food.
OP, macros are personal preference, so don't feel like you have to meet them exactly, they are just more of a general guide. And eating some treats is fine while losing weight, and even for good health as long as you are eating nutritious foods as well10 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »
No. It doesn't. The main causes of T2D are genetics and obesity. And since sugar-rich foods tend to be higher in calories (not just due to sugar, but the sugar-fat combo), it is possible that eating too many of them will push you out of maintenance and, over time, lead to weight gain, which will lead to obesity and the increased risk. But that's not the sugar causing it; it's the obesity.
Fruits are mostly simple sugars. Sodium isn't a problem for most people. No food in isolation is healthy or unhealthy; it needs to be looked at in the context of overall diet. And there's nothing to indicate that organic foods are any different nutritionally than non-organic.
I am sorry but genetics does not play much of a role in T2D or fatty liver for that matter. The two tend to go hand in hand. Additional sugars found in refined carbs and sweets and soda are major drivers of obesity and T2D. Fructose especially is terrible for you and really should be avoided for the most part.
It is very possible to be at optimal weight and have fatty liver and be at risk of T2D. To answer the OP. Yes you can have a diet of all junk food and maintain but personally I think it’s a mistake.
Over a long period of time junk food and sugar do bad things to the body. There is a reason it’s called JUNK food.
Rather dogmatic way of looking at things. Actually ADA suggest 45% carbs. That said, there are some studies showing lower caloric intake on less processed diets. Though, why on earth would you push less fruit and veggies on people? Fruit and veggies sugars are actually higher fructose than glucose? Fructose actually has a slower increase in bs btw. It does metabolize in the liver, but most non alcoholic fatty liver disease is because you are overweight. Not sugar intake.. .9 -
TavistockToad wrote: »mahesht2010 wrote: »Yes u can maintain weight with high carb and low protein and fat with regular exercisesmahesht2010 wrote: »Yes but without exercise is not good for overall health
Neither is (very) low fat or low protein good for overall health.
But the original question was all about weight, which is pretty much all about calories (eaten, or burned via activity, either way).
OP, well-rounded nutrition is important for health.
IMO, it's:
Appropriate calories for weight management + well-rounded eating for nutrition (plus a few treats for joy) + exercise for fitness = Best odds of continuing long-term good health and attractive appearance.
We each have our own goals, but for most of us it goes beyond just "thin" to some of that other stuff, I think.4
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