Why am I not losing weight? Feeling discouraged.
jannekejlang
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Hi MFP community,
I’m hoping someone has words of advice. I’ve been on MPF for 5 weeks now. I exercise every day: circuit training twice a week, run/elliptical 4 times a week, and one <25 mile bike ride. I have certainly been gaining muscle. I’ve been meeting my 1200 net calorie goal 80% of the time, but haven’t lost any weight in the last three weeks. I feel strong, but I really want to lose these last 10 pounds. Any words of wisdom?
Thank you!
I’m hoping someone has words of advice. I’ve been on MPF for 5 weeks now. I exercise every day: circuit training twice a week, run/elliptical 4 times a week, and one <25 mile bike ride. I have certainly been gaining muscle. I’ve been meeting my 1200 net calorie goal 80% of the time, but haven’t lost any weight in the last three weeks. I feel strong, but I really want to lose these last 10 pounds. Any words of wisdom?
Thank you!
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Are you weighing all of your food using a food scale?11
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Yes I am.2
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The other 20% of the time.... do you log it? How far over are you?11
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What’s your weight and height? How much are you trying to lose? Have you taken body measurements?3
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What are your stats that only losing 10lbs gives you as little as 1200 cals? Your deficit should be 0.5lbs per week.
How are you estimating calories burnt for exercise?7 -
jannekejlang wrote: »Hi MFP community,
I’m hoping someone has words of advice. I’ve been on MPF for 5 weeks now. I exercise every day: circuit training twice a week, run/elliptical 4 times a week, and one <25 mile bike ride. I have certainly been gaining muscle. I’ve been meeting my 1200 net calorie goal 80% of the time, but haven’t lost any weight in the last three weeks. I feel strong, but I really want to lose these last 10 pounds. Any words of wisdom?
Thank you!
your focus seems to be on the activities you are doing and not your food intake. as asked above, how much are you eating the 20% of the time you don't net 1200? also, hard to imagine doing all that activity on 1200 calories per day. and you are certainly not gaining appreciable muscle mass in 5 weeks while doing mostly cardio and netting 1200 calories.15 -
Are you having cheat days? Are you eating back exercise calories?0
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What happens the 20% of the time that you don't meet your calorie goal? Are you over it, under it, or don't know because you don't track those times? By how much are you over or under your goal during those times?1
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I’d shoot for hitting that calorie goal more often than 80%. Your exercise is good for your health, make sure you’re not over estimating your calorie burn from exercise.3
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Thanks all! I’m 5’ 8” and 160. My goal is 150. I started MPF at 168. I started taking measurements last week.
The other 20% of the time is usually one day a week when I drink a couple glasses of wine with friends or go out for a nice meal. On those days I typically track my workout and breakfast and lunch, but don’t complete the journal entry. But on my “cheat days” I do a big cardio day like a bike ride or long run. I’ve been logging my exercise calories using the presets that are in MPF. Is there a better way to do it?
I definitely feel stronger than when I started so it’s hard to imagine I’m not gaining muscle.7 -
jannekejlang wrote: »Thanks all! I’m 5’ 8” and 160. My goal is 150. I started MPF at 168. I started taking measurements last week.
The other 20% of the time is usually one day a week when I drink a couple glasses of wine with friends or go out for a nice meal. On those days I typically track my workout and breakfast and lunch, but don’t complete the journal entry. But on my “cheat days” I do a big cardio day like a bike ride or long run. I’ve been logging my exercise calories using the presets that are in MPF. Is there a better way to do it?
I definitely feel stronger than when I started so it’s hard to imagine I’m not gaining muscle.
Is your scale not budging but are your measurements? You might not see a change in the scale always!2 -
jannekejlang wrote: »Thanks all! I’m 5’ 8” and 160. My goal is 150. I started MPF at 168. I started taking measurements last week.
The other 20% of the time is usually one day a week when I drink a couple glasses of wine with friends or go out for a nice meal. On those days I typically track my workout and breakfast and lunch, but don’t complete the journal entry. But on my “cheat days” I do a big cardio day like a bike ride or long run. I’ve been logging my exercise calories using the presets that are in MPF. Is there a better way to do it?
I definitely feel stronger than when I started so it’s hard to imagine I’m not gaining muscle.
I'm not saying you're not gaining muscle . . . but muscle gain is slow. Under ideal conditions (which include a calorie surplus, i.e. not during weight loss), a quarter pound per week of muscle mass gain would be really good for a woman, and half a pound per week for a man.
On the other hand, strength gain can be very fast, for someone new to strength training.
Huh?!?
It's neuromuscular adaptation. At first, we get stronger by more efficiently and effectively recruiting and using the muscle fibers we already have. They start waking up, working together, and just generally being more effective. At the same time, we can get a firmer and more muscular look, primarily from the water weight that's involved in muscle repair, plus losing a bit of overlying fat so that shows. Adding new muscle fibers is much, much slower.
In the scheme of weight loss, 5 weeks isn't enough to fully realize results, particularly when upping exercise (which increases water weight for muscle repair), and especially when one has as little weight to lose as you do. Your profile says you're female. If you're also premenopausal, that's also a source of water weight fluctuation (it's just part of how a healthy body functions, premenopausal or not).
At 5 weeks in, you may've seen a fast water weight drop at first from glycogen depletion (water weight under another name) plus reduced average digestive system contents, that obscured a normal monthly-cycle water weight gain (assuming you're pre-menopausal), and now - with that initial bigger water weight drop out of the way - you're seeing the cyclic gain effect (hormone-related water weight hiding fat loss on the scale).
Hang in there. And consider whether 1200 is a good goal, or not (at 153 pounds, 5'5", age 59, 1200 plus exercise was a truly terrible idea for me) . This is a good read:
https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/1200-calorie-diet/18 -
Very informative and sounds exactly like what’s happening. I have my profile set at losing 2 pounds a week and so the suggested calorie intake is 1200 net calories. Are you suggesting I may want to change my settings to lose 1 pound a week?
Also, I’m not sure about my activity level. I sit at a desk all day but I bike for transportation. I typically log 30-45 minutes of biking just getting around town. As long as I log my commute as exercise should I keep my profile at sedentary?1 -
Yes, if you only have 10lbs to lose, you should be trying for 0.5lbs per week.10
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Thanks all!1
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jannekejlang wrote: »Very informative and sounds exactly like what’s happening. I have my profile set at losing 2 pounds a week and so the suggested calorie intake is 1200 net calories. Are you suggesting I may want to change my settings to lose 1 pound a week?
Also, I’m not sure about my activity level. I sit at a desk all day but I bike for transportation. I typically log 30-45 minutes of biking just getting around town. As long as I log my commute as exercise should I keep my profile at sedentary?
Yes change it to 1/2lb a week
and activity level is based on non exercise activity so if you sit at a desk you are sedentary.
The bike ride commute, if that was being done before you started losing weight that is part of your daily life I wouldn't log it.
I only ever logged movement done as purposeful exercise that I didn't typically do prior to losing weight.
For example I never log house cleaning even though it's excess movement. I didn't log my gardening either even tho it was very physical...I did that before I lost weight and it didn't impact my weigh enough to matter then so it won't now.
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Even though I walk for miles and lift weights, my workouts aren't intense enough to justify eating back "lost" calories. It's an excuse to eat more, and then I wonder why I can't lose weight. It leads to frustration and even more eating.16
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The bike speed related estimates in the database are a pretty hopeless way to estimate calories burned while cycling.
Strava (free app) would probably be better.
For running the formula
Bodyweight in pounds X miles run X 0.63 (efficiency ratio) gives you a net calorie estimate.2 -
When you don't have much to lose, one "cheat meal" can cancel out your deficit for the week. Try logging those meals as well and see if that's the problem.
I usually have one larger-than-usual dinner a week, but I still log it as closely as possible. Then I look at my average for the week to see what my deficit is/isn't.10 -
A couple things stand out to me here. You started 5 weeks ago. You lost 8 lbs in the first 2 weeks, but have stalled the last 3.
1) Our weight fluctuates. Between varying levels of hydration and waste/in our body. Weight loss in not linear. If your exercise routine is new/increased, you could also be carrying extra water weight as your muscles work to adapt. Also, your time of the month can have an impact on water retention and bloating. See this post for a more detailed explanation.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10683010/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-fluctuations/p1
2) I agree with others that you should slow down your rate of loss. 0.5-1 lb/week would be a much healthier rate.
3) For most accuracy, log EVERYTHING. Log that additional 20%. It is ok to have nights where you let go. But still be accountable for it. Sometimes it is not as much as you think. It may also help you make more mindful choices when you go out.5 -
If you are relying on MFP for calories burned from exercise and are eating those calories back, you are netting far more calories than you think. I use a heart rate monitor to measure my calories burned and when I enter "treadmill walking", for example, the amount that populates is much higher than my own device measures.4
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Totally seconding the suggestion to log your cheat meal & drinks. It’s amazing how many calories restaurants cram into their food. One three course meal with drinks at a pub could easily add enough calories to push you to maintenance or at least very much diminish your deficit.
Have a go at best guess logging your ‘cheats’ but I’m sure you’ll find the scales change for you next week anyway.0 -
Make sure you are taking body measurements. The real goal is to lose fat. Sometimes people are gaining muscle and losing fat which gives the illusion that you aren’t losing weight. Measurements are more accurate.6
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starryphoenix wrote: »Make sure you are taking body measurements. The real goal is to lose fat. Sometimes people are gaining muscle and losing fat which gives the illusion that you aren’t losing weight. Measurements are more accurate.
Achievable muscle gain under the best of conditions is much slower than what most people would consider any reasonably satisfying rate of weight loss, generally.
Measurements are a wonderful thing, but muscle gain is very, very rarely going to explain "no weight loss" in someone who thinks they're in a significant calorie deficit.8 -
The bike speed related estimates in the database are a pretty hopeless way to estimate calories burned while cycling.
Strava (free app) would probably be better.
For running the formula
Bodyweight in pounds X miles run X 0.63 (efficiency ratio) gives you a net calorie estimate.
I have found lots of people online don’t trust Strava either because it seems to overestimate calories as well.
The running formula is helpful, thanks. But how do I calculate all my other workouts? Does anyone recommend a FitBit?
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I use a Fitbit (an older model the flex 2). It has turned out to be dead-on accurate for me (after 14 weeks of careful tracking). That’s just me, though. I started our eating back only half my exercise calories, but I was gaining faster than expected, so now I’m trying to eat back all my calories in a week and I’m still losing at the predicted rate. The one thing Fitbit doesn’t really give me credit for is my strength training sessions, but I’m okay with that. They last about 40 minutes twice a week and don’t really show up on my Fitbit, so I just count them as bonus (or as something to cancel our any inaccuracies in my food logging!).0
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