" I ate 100 grams of sugar for a year"
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https://youtu.be/D9YdBfR299sGreat new video with good data! (Approximately 15 minutes long.) Brandon Wadas lost 30 lb in 11 months while still eating over 100g of sugar daily. He says in the comments he ate a lot of cereal.
The video shows that US sugar intake has decreased the last few years but obesity is still rising.
In the 80s people thought fat made you fat and went on low fat diets, but people still got fat.
Now the same thing is happening with carbs/sugar, but people still get fat.
Yes, you can lose weight both ways, but ONLY if you're happy eating that way AND if you don't eat too many or too few calories so you can stick to your diet long enough to lose the weight and not crash and burn.
And you have a much better chance sticking to your way of eating if it's a way of eating that doesn't feel like you're dying for it to be over.
Similar to Brandon Wadas, I lost 80 lb in a year and have kept it off 3 years and I've always eaten over 100 grams of sugar and 50% carbs a day, and my blood work and health are "perfect" according to multiple doctors. Disclaimer: I also walk and run a lot. My daily sugar intake includes portions of chocolate, fruit, fruit juice, health bars/biscuits, and it used to include alcohol.
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Reminds me of that movie about that dude who ate I don't know how many Big Mac's a day for the last God only knows how many years. Can't remember the movie's name. He was a skinny redneck looking dude. Wondering if he's still eating them Big Mac's and still alive.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.13 -
Super Size Me
The guy is Morgan Spurlock.2 -
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Layne Norton said in his latest video that he's doing something similar, making sure he eats at least 50 grams of sugar per day while cutting just to show that weight loss is possible while eating sugar.9
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »
The guy I’m talking about is someone else and has eaten Big Mac’s forever.
https://people.com/food/mcdonalds-big-mac-supersize-me-don-gorske-world-record/
I remember the Super Size movie, enjoyed it.
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And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.18
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pierinifitness wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »
The guy I’m talking about is someone else and has eaten Big Mac’s forever.
https://people.com/food/mcdonalds-big-mac-supersize-me-don-gorske-world-record/
I remember the Super Size movie, enjoyed it.
Ah yeah, the Big Mac guy was in that documentary, wasn't he? I remember him mentioning to Morgan that he never gets the fries, lol. The burger in its own isn't that bad at all calorie-wise if he doesn't get fries and soda with it.4 -
And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.
I like fat, fat doesn’t make you fat; excess calories do. This is my experience, yours may be different.
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pierinifitness wrote: »And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.
I like fat, fat doesn’t make you fat; excess calories do. This is my experience, yours may be different.
That was my point. Overall we ate more calories and that's why we gained weight. People blame low fat but that wasn't the problem.
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And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.
I agree with liz0269. We just all eat so much more. Portions are bigger, all you can eat, drive thru, etc.
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »
The guy that did the documentary (Martin Spurlock) only did it for a month. One guy he interviewed in it, ate like 2 big macs/day for 30+ years... but he did avoid the fries and other food and was not overweight, so ate within his energy needs.4 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.
I agree with liz0269. We just all eat so much more. Portions are bigger, all you can eat, drive thru, etc.
Remember the good old days when a large soda was today's small?
Same with fries.
And snack bags of chips were so much smaller too.
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Spurlock's Super Size Me appears to be fraud. When asked for a log of his intake, he could not provide it. That's problematic because his claimed weight gain doesn't appear possible - the calories per day needed for it appears impossible by any eating plan he could have followed at McDonald's while sticking to his rules.
I hate that Taubes has his own little rescuing hypothesis to claim obesity is a threshold response to sugar, or an epigenetic effect.The video shows that US sugar intake has decreased the last few years but obesity is still rising.10 -
ive lost 130 pounds eating whatever i wanted, as long as it fit within my calorie goals. i do love me some chocolate!
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JohnnytotheB wrote: »And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.
I agree with liz0269. We just all eat so much more. Portions are bigger, all you can eat, drive thru, etc.
Remember the good old days when a large soda was today's small?
Same with fries.
And snack bags of chips were so much smaller too.
As someone who prefers a lot of liquid to wash down my meals (I get several refills at restaurants and the server is never fast enough with them), I do NOT consider those the good old days.8 -
Here in the UK, there is a huge drive to get everyones sugar consumption down, the recommendation being no more than 30g added sugar to the diet of everyone over 11 years old......thats less sugar than in a can of soda. I think its very easy to get over 30g of sugar ! Saying that, I am aiming to keep mine under 20g and its not that difficult either. There are also more reasons than weightloss to keep additional sugar on the low end - dental management, inflammation etc.15
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pierinifitness wrote: »And it's not true that people actually reduced the fat in their diets in the 80s. What they did was increase carbs so the percentage of fat was lower but actual fat was higher. Overall we eat more and that's why we're all fatter.
I like fat, fat doesn’t make you fat; excess calories do. This is my experience, yours may be different.
That was my point. Overall we ate more calories and that's why we gained weight. People blame low fat but that wasn't the problem.
Exactly. Too many calories.7 -
I was so stuck on keto and i would keep binge eating the carbs. I started this week to allow them back in and im so much better for it. Ive already lost 1lb eating a varied diet managing calories and so far ive binged just one time! Im a serial binger like 3 or 4 times a day. I was conviced carrots and yams and fruit were a sin but now carrots taste like candy and I love my sweet potato and Jasmine rice beside my salmon. Sugar wont kill you, large consumption of food in general will.16
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The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.22
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pierinifitness wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »
The guy I’m talking about is someone else and has eaten Big Mac’s forever.
https://people.com/food/mcdonalds-big-mac-supersize-me-don-gorske-world-record/
I remember the Super Size movie, enjoyed it.
Don Gorske is his name. Google him.
According to his Wikipedia last year he surpassed 30,000 Big Macs since 1972 lol.
He's a big guy too so eating two 580 calorie sandwiches a day probably still leaves him 500-600 while still being in a deficit. Crazy.1 -
Too bad he doesn’t mention how much calories he would lose training for his bodybuilding. His lifestyle and job allows him to eat that much sugar but don’t expect a normal 9-5 job to burn all those calories for you.16
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Too bad he doesn’t mention how much calories he would lose training for his bodybuilding. His lifestyle and job allows him to eat that much sugar but don’t expect a normal 9-5 job to burn all those calories for you.
sugar is just a carb, I eat well over 100 carbs a day... usually 200+, on 1900 cals/day12 -
Too bad he doesn’t mention how much calories he would lose training for his bodybuilding. His lifestyle and job allows him to eat that much sugar but don’t expect a normal 9-5 job to burn all those calories for you.
sugar is just a carb, I eat well over 100 carbs a day... usually 200+, on 1900 cals/day
Heck, I'm a li'l ol' lady (age 63, 5'5", weight mid-130s pounds), retired/sedentary (outside of intentional exercise) and have maintained my weight for nearly 3 years now eating over 200g carbs most days! (It was more like 150g for the year of weight loss before that, while losing 50ish lbs.)
Well-rounded nutrition is important for health, but carbs are not Da Debbil (absent a medical condition that requires managing them more closely, such as diabetes, of course).11 -
I wish someone would do a documentary of just eating ice cream over a period of time, but still staying in a calorie deficit. I feel like that would blow a lot of people's minds. Most people who have researched it think that CICO is too good to be true. I've tried to explain that you could eat straight lard all day and as long as you ate at a deficit you would still lose. You'd probably feel like absolute poo, but it's still fact.13
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firecat1987 wrote: »I wish someone would do a documentary of just eating ice cream over a period of time, but still staying in a calorie deficit. I feel like that would blow a lot of people's minds. Most people who have researched it think that CICO is too good to be true. I've tried to explain that you could eat straight lard all day and as long as you ate at a deficit you would still lose. You'd probably feel like absolute poo, but it's still fact.
Maybe you? Make a YouTube video about your results. Probably gets millions of views. You’ll be famous.2 -
Too bad he doesn’t mention how much calories he would lose training for his bodybuilding. His lifestyle and job allows him to eat that much sugar but don’t expect a normal 9-5 job to burn all those calories for you.
100 grams of sugar is 400 calories. Calorie needs obviously vary, but that is far below the even the minimum need for small women (sedentary = 1200). I have a regular 9-5 job, and with my exercise I consistently lose on 2400 calories. So 100 grams of sugar wouldn't be a problem for me. I don't know if I actually eat that many (I don't track for it), but would have no issues if I did.6 -
The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Is my run day favourite of a 118g bag of minstrels going to drive up my blood sugar? 2 or 3 times a week, usually after 9pm but generally in deficit, occasionally maintenance.1 -
The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Sugar intake does not cause high blood sugar. It is caused by health conditions such as diabetes, which are not caused by too much sugar. So unless a person has a pre-existing condition that requires them to monitor their sugar and carb intake, a person of normal health does not need to.
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magnusthenerd wrote: »Spurlock's Super Size Me appears to be fraud. When asked for a log of his intake, he could not provide it. That's problematic because his claimed weight gain doesn't appear possible - the calories per day needed for it appears impossible by any eating plan he could have followed at McDonald's while sticking to his rules.
I hate that Taubes has his own little rescuing hypothesis to claim obesity is a threshold response to sugar, or an epigenetic effect.The video shows that US sugar intake has decreased the last few years but obesity is still rising.
The Super Size Me results meant absolutely nothing in the end because one of the results they latched onto was the damage caused to his liver by his diet. However, Spurlock later admitted that he hadn't been sober for more than a week in the last decade, I think that might have something to do with his liver damage.7 -
Too bad he doesn’t mention how much calories he would lose training for his bodybuilding. His lifestyle and job allows him to eat that much sugar but don’t expect a normal 9-5 job to burn all those calories for you.
sugar is just a carb, I eat well over 100 carbs a day... usually 200+, on 1900 cals/day
Heck, I'm a li'l ol' lady (age 63, 5'5", weight mid-130s pounds), retired/sedentary (outside of intentional exercise) and have maintained my weight for nearly 3 years now eating over 200g carbs most days! (It was more like 150g for the year of weight loss before that, while losing 50ish lbs.)
Well-rounded nutrition is important for health, but carbs are not Da Debbil (absent a medical condition that requires managing them more closely, such as diabetes, of course).
What’s da debbil?
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