Help me. Gaining more fat than muscle.
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It really depends on your goals. Full body compound lifts with heavy free weights just seems like a more efficient way to go about building strength and muscle in your whole body. 10-12 lb isolation work isn't. Just look at some programs designed towards your goals to see the difference between them and what you're doing.6
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But what does the mirror say & how do your clothes fit vs. before?3
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U do have a nice shape for bodybuilding, why r u wants to gain more fat.6
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Keto_Vampire wrote: »But what does the mirror say & how do your clothes fit vs. before?
When I was body building, none of my pants fit me and my stomach looked bigger. Overall I was always bloated vs when I was eating maintance calories. I think what happened was calorie partioning. When you have a higher bf % gaining more fat than others more quickly vs. people with a low bf %, fat gain at a slower rate. I Could be wrong, but thought I read a post on calorie partioning on one of the forums on here.1 -
derrickchangtsangtay wrote: »U do have a nice shape for bodybuilding, why r u wants to gain more fat.
That is the thing I don’t want to gain more fat. I’m trying to maintain my physic but at the same time grow my muscle. As I guess that is what recomp is, as what everyone else is saying.
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First, what you are looking for is the holy grail btw. It’s brutally hard to achieve... good luck!
You’ll most likely find the answer in your diet/nutrition. Calories are all very well, but you’ll probably need to fiddle with your macros, to find a solution that works in the unique biochemistry and hormonal mix of your own body.
If you haven’t already try some of the approaches favoured by bodybuilders - I’d suggest Keto or the ‘slow-carb’ diet for staters. But basically there is some combination of protein/carbs/fat/water that will work for you, assuming your routine, sleep and recuperation are also dialed in...17 -
Just found out what ‘Woo’ means on MFP. Gets used a lot, so obviously my opinions not wanted in this forum.
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Echoing the recomp suggestions. Also maybe see if you could spring for a PT session to help you come up with the best workout programme for you if you can afford it?
At my gym I do a small group workout every Wednesday evening with up to 3 other people. Costs £4.50 on top of my normal gym membership. Then 2 other days a week I generally follow Strong Curves, though I might amend slightly depending on what I do on the Wednesday class. If I have any questions about form, I can always ask my PT on the Wednesday and they'll show me proper technique real fast or have me do it as part of the session so I know how to do it on my own.
@GoldenAge - you're getting woos because keto can work for some people but MFP in general favours straight calorie counting and a balanced mix of macros/IIFYM approach. For many, keto isn't sustainable longterm. If it works for you, great! But I personally need carbs for focus/energy.8 -
Yes @staticsplit, I spotted that doctrinal fanaticism and refusal to acknowledge alternative valid viewpoints, no matter how qualified the person expressing them. It’s no problem, I have no desire to post in a close-minded (and wrong) group. Your loss!8
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.1 -
It does look like your tummy is bloated. There’s a little bit of a cushion but I don’t think most of that is fat, it looks more like bloating from underneath to me. Have you tried looking for causes of the bloating, such as food sensitivities?
As for your legs, I think maybe there’s a bit of distorted perception going on - no way do your legs look like the 35% body fat example! You have well defined legs. Are they supermodel bodybuilder legs? No, but they aren’t rubbing together like the example at 35%.
Losing a whole bunch of weight but only losing one pound of fat because your body has gone into starvation mode and devoured only muscle is not a thing. That’s why that post has several “woos” on it. Whatever measuring method told you this was wrong.5 -
Recomp has worked for me. I was fat, weak and 150 lbs. Now I have muscle poking through. In the morning, I can see my six pack trying to pop out of my belly fat... I still weigh 150lbs. I have obvious traps, biceps and triceps when I flex. I have a lot of work to get where I want but I see a huge difference.1
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.
Wow is this last part true???3 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.
Wow is this last part true???
No, it is not... actuually low intesity is better than say HIIT, when in a deficit and HiIt usues fuel for recovery that you would rather use to repair muscles8 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.
Wow is this last part true???
In a surplus if you are not stimulating the muscles adequately with some type of resistance training, yes you are less likely to put on muscle optimally and will gain more fat. However unless cardio is impairing your lifting, it won't affect muscle gain itself.2 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.
Wow is this last part true???
In a surplus if you are not stimulating the muscles adequately with some type of resistance training, yes you are less likely to put on muscle optimally and will gain more fat.
Ah I mean the part about the cardio. bolded.1 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.
Wow is this last part true???
In a surplus if you are not stimulating the muscles adequately with some type of resistance training, yes you are less likely to put on muscle optimally and will gain more fat.
Ah I mean the part about the cardio. bolded.
Sorry I just added. If you do cardio in a surplus it won't affect muscle gain unless it is impairing your lifting performance. Also too much cardio when bulking can make it harder to reach your calorie goal. But itself, no it won't impair muscle gain if you are recovering, performing and fueling adequately.1 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »chloepaulino wrote: »I have done other machines and bf has been higher or about the same of about 27%
If you truly think you are 27% based on scales, comparing photos online etc. Then I would definitely not bulk.
This, most sources will say a female should not be bulking if over 20-22% BF
Agreeing with what is already being said. A slight calorie deficit that you gradually increase may currently be a better idea.
Maybe you are already weight training, but if you are not already, is it possible for you to get into weight training? Cardio (especially low-intensity cardio) typically discourages your body from putting on muscle, and combined with a calorie surplus, would encourage your body to put on more fat than muscle.
Wow is this last part true???
In a surplus if you are not stimulating the muscles adequately with some type of resistance training, yes you are less likely to put on muscle optimally and will gain more fat.
Ah I mean the part about the cardio. bolded.
Sorry I just added. If you do cardio in a surplus it won't affect muscle gain unless it is impairing your lifting performance. Also too much cardio when bulking can make it harder to reach your calorie goal. But itself, no it won't impair muscle gain if you are recovering, performing and fueling adequately.
ah ok. trust me, i have no issues reaching my calorie goal
but thank you. 1
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