the atkins died: fat or fiction

kennie2
kennie2 Posts: 1,170 Member
just saw this on 4OD (im afraid uk people only) so i thought id share

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-atkins-diet-fat-or-fiction/4od

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  • dayzeerock
    dayzeerock Posts: 918 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.
  • charlibets
    charlibets Posts: 83 Member
    just saw this on 4OD (im afraid uk people only) so i thought id share

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-atkins-diet-fat-or-fiction/4od

    It's not fiction because the value of restricting certain sources of carbs has been proven to be effective. But Atkins specifically is not for everyone. There are other low carb plans that are structured differently and might be a better match depending on your own lifestyle and food preferences.

    I know for a fact that if I stay lower carb, in addition to watching calories, I will lose weight easier. But the problem lies in maintenance.
  • Onesnap
    Onesnap Posts: 2,819 Member
    I like how you have a typo in the subject: *died*

    Any diet that requires you use testing strips to test your kidney health is NOT something I'd ever be interested in.
  • cheesesandwich
    cheesesandwich Posts: 79 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    He died from a head injury after being in a coma, as the result of a fall. Do some basic research before you start yapping.
  • I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    ^Like.

    ^^
    Agree! LOL
  • taem
    taem Posts: 495 Member
    Thanks, I will see if it is on youtube. However, for someone that does a low fat diet, I believe a low carb diet works for those who don't like carbs.
  • dayzeerock
    dayzeerock Posts: 918 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    He died from a head injury after being in a coma, as the result of a fall. Do some basic research before you start yapping.

    Yup. Slipped and fell on the ice due to a HEART ATTACK. The fall put him in a coma, you are correct. But the fall occurred due to a heart attack. Basic research complete.
  • lausa22
    lausa22 Posts: 467 Member
    To be honest, I don't believe in a diet where you restrict things can work forever. There's no way you could live every day off less than 15g of carbs, to me. I'd like to find someone who has done the Atkins diet for 30+ years.
  • Leanne1795
    Leanne1795 Posts: 186
    I have watched this. Interesting. :)


    Could all those people who wish to comment on Atkins please read the book and do the research first instead of randomly attacking because it is fashionable to do so. Thank you.
  • kennie2
    kennie2 Posts: 1,170 Member
    Yeah I just said there's a program about it. For people that might be interested.
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
    This does work, it is fact. I have been on it for 3 weeks. I just started to incorporate alli diet pills too.

    Really this is the magic bullet combo. don't believe anything you hear. just try it
  • starracer23
    starracer23 Posts: 1,011 Member
    yeah it's true, the atkins diet died like 5 yrs ago....
  • Jade_Butterfly
    Jade_Butterfly Posts: 2,963 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    He died from a head injury after being in a coma, as the result of a fall. Do some basic research before you start yapping.

    His lovely diet also causes considerable health problems and he was not healthy. . . look up info . . . .

    First of all the info that I am looking at said that he died at the age of 72 from the fall. . . . But here is an excerp from the doctors.

    Dr. Atkins' medical records, which should not have been released, but which mistakenly were sent. The Medical Examiner's report had a hand-written note that Atkins had a history of myocardial infarction (heart attack), congestive heart failure, and hypertension (written "h/o MI, CHF, HTN").

    So he still was not a healthy man. . .
  • FrenchMob
    FrenchMob Posts: 1,167 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    He died from a head injury after being in a coma, as the result of a fall. Do some basic research before you start yapping.

    Yup. Slipped and fell on the ice due to a HEART ATTACK. The fall put him in a coma, you are correct. But the fall occurred due to a heart attack. Basic research complete.
    I hope you don't do research for a living because you'd fail miserably;

    First off, it wasn't because of a heart attack;
    Second, he was 73, not 50.

    :huh:
  • wvualum
    wvualum Posts: 428
    I am not on this diet. But my dad is, he lost way over 100 lbs. Had diabetes, high bp, and high cholesterol, now he is off all the meds he was on. He has also kept it up for 6 or 7 years and doctors are amazed at how healthy his heart is. He allows himself carbs on the weekend and sticks to the low carb during the week for maintenance.
  • Jade_Butterfly
    Jade_Butterfly Posts: 2,963 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    He died from a head injury after being in a coma, as the result of a fall. Do some basic research before you start yapping.

    Yup. Slipped and fell on the ice due to a HEART ATTACK. The fall put him in a coma, you are correct. But the fall occurred due to a heart attack. Basic research complete.

    Yeppers. . I just found an excerp from the medical crap and posted it. . . He was overweight and had major health problems. . .
  • AlyRoseNYC
    AlyRoseNYC Posts: 1,075 Member
    Really? Is this "Hate Atkins Day" ???
  • kennie2
    kennie2 Posts: 1,170 Member
    Really? Is this "Hate Atkins Day" ???

    its hate on anyone day :D

    mainly the "hate those people that followed something through and lost **** loads of weight day" :D
  • Onesnap
    Onesnap Posts: 2,819 Member
    No, it's not Hate Atkins Day. I've seen it work for people, but just like many fad diets it is not sustainable long-term. Once the weight is gone (in the case of my father-in-law who lost 60 lbs w/ Atkins) a new plan (long term) needs to be put in place to keep the weight off for good. This is the case with any 'restriction' style diet (think: Special K diet).

    I was just saying that any diet that requires the use of testing strips is not the one for me:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis
  • cheesesandwich
    cheesesandwich Posts: 79 Member
    No, it's not Hate Atkins Day. I've seen it work for people, but just like many fad diets it is not sustainable long-term. Once the weight is gone (in the case of my father-in-law who lost 60 lbs w/ Atkins) a new plan (long term) needs to be put in place to keep the weight off for good. This is the case with any 'restriction' style diet (think: Special K diet).

    I was just saying that any diet that requires the use of testing strips is not the one for me:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

    It doesn't require serious calorie restriction OR testing strips, and as a lifestyle that's been around and popular for over 30 years, I'd hardly call it a fad.
  • AlyRoseNYC
    AlyRoseNYC Posts: 1,075 Member
    nope it's not called "hating" it's called a sense of humor...which way too many people are lacking!

    Weight loss is very personal, for me at least. I don't find it funny at all to mock someone's effort to lose weight. And I have a really sick sense of humor.

    Do people like you do this with everything they don't agree with? Do you think it's ok for someone to bash a gay couple or a mom who had an abortion? More importantly, would you mock a stranger in real life? For no reason?
  • dezedeze
    dezedeze Posts: 96 Member
    The heart attack rumor on Atkins' death is just that...a rumor.

    He was in fact diagnosed with cardiomyopathy prior to his death, a condition that has many potential causes beyond coronary artery disease. In fact, a cardiac catheterization performed on him at that time revealed clean coronaries.

    Furthermore, a serious bleed to the head results in a series of not-so-good consequences, not the least of which being severe hypertension as your system tries to get blood to dying brain cells. Also, hypertonic saline is frequently given to these patients in order to control brain swelling...this, of course, can lead to major fluid retention and heart failure even in healthy individuals.

    Bottom line: I think all low-carbers and vegans will agree when I say: eat your veggies people! Whether or not you pair those veggies with meat or carbs is up to you, and I'm not going to tell you what I think you should do. Do your research, educate yourself, and go with your gut.
  • JennsLosing
    JennsLosing Posts: 1,026
    nope it's not called "hating" it's called a sense of humor...which way too many people are lacking!
    agreed
  • Susanxxxx
    Susanxxxx Posts: 53 Member
    This does work, it is fact. I have been on it for 3 weeks. I just started to incorporate alli diet pills too.

    Really this is the magic bullet combo. don't believe anything you hear. just try it


    totally unrelated to the opening topic, but when i started atkins i too used alli and found i was tired for weeks. When you aren't eating carbs you must eat fat as your body only can use carbs or fat for energy. Nothing else. Just my 2c, BTW I'm still an atkins girl so not slating your woe at all xxx
  • I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    This is a myth!
    http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/atkinsdiet/a/dratkinsdeath.htm
  • CLA2801
    CLA2801 Posts: 50 Member
    I find your subject error ironic, considering the man who came up with this absurd diet died of a heart attack before the age of 50.

    He died from a head injury after being in a coma, as the result of a fall. Do some basic research before you start yapping.

    Exactly. And he was in his 70s.
  • CLA2801
    CLA2801 Posts: 50 Member
    No, it's not Hate Atkins Day. I've seen it work for people, but just like many fad diets it is not sustainable long-term. Once the weight is gone (in the case of my father-in-law who lost 60 lbs w/ Atkins) a new plan (long term) needs to be put in place to keep the weight off for good. This is the case with any 'restriction' style diet (think: Special K diet).

    I was just saying that any diet that requires the use of testing strips is not the one for me:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

    If you actually knew anything about the diet, and weren't just spouting off random bits of information you read "on the web" you'd know that there IS a maintenancee phase.

    And it DOES include good carbs and fruits and everything else.
  • Onesnap
    Onesnap Posts: 2,819 Member
    A restriction diet is when you CAN'T eat certain things. Like the Special K diet where you must eat Special K products for breakfast and lunch each day.

    Although Atkins does not REQUIRE testing strips if you do the full Atkins and don't test with the strips (use long term) that is your own decision. Your own body. From what I've learned the responsible Atkins followers use the test strips...it was not random web searches, I learned that from other MFP users. If they are also wrong I apologize.
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