Control Sugar Intake
ahmedkarem87
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I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
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Well, you can read labels carefully and not eat anything with sugar in it.
But sugar isn't what causes weight gain. Calories cause weight gain. There were fat people in history before there was such a thing as refined sugar. You've seen a statue of Buddha, right?19 -
Focus on your daily calories. If reducing sugar helps you stay within your calorie goal, then do that.
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Interesting that in recent years our sugar consumption has decreased but our weight has increased. What does that little bit of information tell you? For me, I would come to the conclusion that the reason for our increasing obesity levels is that we are eating more and moving less, rather than the types of foods we are eating. If eating foods high in added sugar contribute to you overeating, it makes sense to limit them or cut them out of your diet. If you are the sort of person who finds that having a small sweet treat regularly prevents cravings and helps you stay within your calorie goals then you would be foolish to stop doing this.14
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ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit9 -
ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.48 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!19 -
Never has 'no brainer' been a more accurate phrase... *rollseyes*10
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.38 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.22 -
Most “documentaries” are biased stories meant to paint a very slanted picture toward one position without relying heavily on neutral, peer reviewed science. Not sure which you watched but go to google, type the name of the documentary followed by “debunked” and you’ll find the complete opposite viewpoint likely with a lot more science than pseudoscience.
As others have said - sugar doesn’t cause obesity. Too many calories overall cause obesity. These calories can come from any source and sure, eating added sugar in excess can be problematic, but sugar doesn’t cause obesity in and of itself. Nor does it cause diabetes, in case that was one of the claims as well.
Sugar is also in things like fruits, vegetables, dairy, etc. it’s broken down in your body via the same biochemical pathways regardless of if it comes from an apple or a snickers bar (note I am not saying a snickers bar and an apple are identical from a nutrition standpoint merely that the sugar is broken down the same way in your body).
So think about your goal - is it weight loss? Have you read the stickied most helpful forum posts here and set up MFP to calculate a calorie target for you based on your stats and goal? Log everything you eat, as accurately and honestly as possible ideally using a food scale. If you exercise, log and eat back those calories too. Focus on satiety, nutrition and enjoyment. Even if some of those include sugar. If done within your calorie goal and you have no medical reason to limit added sugar then no worries!
And don’t watch you tube “documentaries”. Much better uses of your time and much better sources of information exist.12 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.
Actually Somatypes are based on hard science, While nobody fits exactly into a body type like i stated above it is a good starting point and although you wouldn't label someone as such, the principle still applies. You are focusing on the wrong part of my point. I was stating that some people hold onto fat easier than others which is a fact. It comes down to how the individuals body reacts to insulin.36 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.
Actually Somatypes are based on hard science, While nobody fits exactly into a body type like i stated above it is a good starting point and although you wouldn't label someone as such, the principle still applies. You are focusing on the wrong part of my point. I was stating that some people hold onto fat easier than others which is a fact. It comes down to how the individuals body reacts to insulin.
What you are suggesting is not based on hard science at all - somatyping came about as a method of determining personality traits not nutrition or fitness. They were also only based on Male body types not both genders. Sheldon's work has been widely discredited. He used photos of students without their permission, he never interviewed any of the subjects, so all views were based solely on his opinions/assumptions.
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.
Actually Somatypes are based on hard science, While nobody fits exactly into a body type like i stated above it is a good starting point and although you wouldn't label someone as such, the principle still applies. You are focusing on the wrong part of my point. I was stating that some people hold onto fat easier than others which is a fact. It comes down to how the individuals body reacts to insulin.
What you are suggesting is not based on hard science at all - somatyping came about as a method of determining personality traits not nutrition or fitness. They were also only based on Male body types not both genders. Sheldon's has been widely discredited. He used photos of students without their permission, he never interviewed any of the subjects, so all views were based solely on his opinions/assumptions.
Agreed that the actual study was discredited (like many studies) and while it is true ( as i stated several times) that people don't fit strictly to a specific type, people do lean towards a type, it can be helpful. But again, you are focusing on a small part of what i was saying which is based on the individual. This is all related to insulin. My point was that all people are different and just because one guy can eat 100 grams of sugar a day and lose fat doesn't mean that works for everyone.21 -
ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved.
Those documentaries aren't based on good science, and are pushing a POV. There are other, equally bad documentaries on YouTube that will have quite opposing advice (they will say that animal products are the problem or some such. Take anything on YouTube (or Netflix docs) with extreme skepticism.My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
What IS healthy (according to the consensus of advice from reputable experts and longstanding recommendations) is limiting (not eliminating) cals from added sugar (and added fats) that tend to be in lower nutrient, higher cal foods, and also to limit other refined carbs and foods high in added fats (like fried foods). For example, the WHO (and other organizations) suggests limiting ADDED sugar to below 10% and ideally below 5% of calories because added sugar tends to be associated with excessive cals or crowding out nutrients (usually because it comes in low nutrient foods with lots of cals from added fat too). That means don't worry about fruit, but LIMIT foods with lots of added sugar (and lots of cals from fat too) like cookies, donuts, cake, as well as high added sugar foods like candy, sugary soda.
How to do that? It's pretty much common sense: limit (again, don't worry about eliminating) dessert-type junk foods, snacky foods like chips, juice, fried foods (and personally if I consumed them I would consider eliminating sugary sodas and energy drinks entirely), and replace refined grains with whole, at least in part.
Hidden sugars really aren't a thing. Read the ingredients and labels. But remember that many places (the US on most labels right now, for example), the sugar on labels could be inherent and not added (so read the ingredients).
Or use MFP and see if you are getting sugar from surprising sources.11 -
"eat meat, vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar" Coach glassman
If you can do this your golden. Chuck in a bit of exercise and the sky is the limit.
Before the keyboard warriors decimate the above, I know there is sugar in fruit. Im talking about the sugar infused processed foods / drinks which are so calorie dense. Nobody ever got fat eating too much watermelon.
If you have time read this: https://www.wholelifechallenge.com/93-greg-glassman-crossfit-and-the-battle-with-big-soda/26 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.
Actually Somatypes are based on hard science, While nobody fits exactly into a body type like i stated above it is a good starting point and although you wouldn't label someone as such, the principle still applies. You are focusing on the wrong part of my point. I was stating that some people hold onto fat easier than others which is a fact. It comes down to how the individuals body reacts to insulin.
What you are suggesting is not based on hard science at all - somatyping came about as a method of determining personality traits not nutrition or fitness. They were also only based on Male body types not both genders. Sheldon's has been widely discredited. He used photos of students without their permission, he never interviewed any of the subjects, so all views were based solely on his opinions/assumptions.
Agreed that the actual study was discredited (like many studies) and while it is true ( as i stated several times) that people don't fit strictly to a specific type, people do lean towards a type, it can be helpful. But again, you are focusing on a small part of what i was saying which is based on the individual. This is all related to insulin. My point was that all people are different and just because one guy can eat 100 grams of sugar a day and lose fat doesn't mean that works for everyone.
Neither does assuming everyone has insulin sensitivity and needs to cut out sugar. Unless they have been advised a medical practitioner there is no reason to be scaremongering about sugar.
Sugar is the current enemy of weight loss the same way that Fat was the enemy of weight loss in the 80's.
I am by no means advocating that everyone should sit and eat a bag of sugar every day and guzzle gallons of coke. But why not just aim for moderation? Regarding the OP, like many of the documentaries that have been on Netflix/Youtube etc, chances are there is very little truth to the claims that were made in them.
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ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
While sugar has many names, the labeling shows how much sugar is in foods. If you focus on whole foods, than largely, you will not have much added sugar, which is the bigger issue.
Overall, I lost 50 lbs about 8 years ago and I regularly consumed 100-150g of total sugars with carbs around 300g. Controlling calories is the primary thing. Also, as you cut calories, you also tend to naturally cut sugars.15 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.
Actually Somatypes are based on hard science, While nobody fits exactly into a body type like i stated above it is a good starting point and although you wouldn't label someone as such, the principle still applies. You are focusing on the wrong part of my point. I was stating that some people hold onto fat easier than others which is a fact. It comes down to how the individuals body reacts to insulin.
What you are suggesting is not based on hard science at all - somatyping came about as a method of determining personality traits not nutrition or fitness. They were also only based on Male body types not both genders. Sheldon's has been widely discredited. He used photos of students without their permission, he never interviewed any of the subjects, so all views were based solely on his opinions/assumptions.
Agreed that the actual study was discredited (like many studies) and while it is true ( as i stated several times) that people don't fit strictly to a specific type, people do lean towards a type, it can be helpful. But again, you are focusing on a small part of what i was saying which is based on the individual. This is all related to insulin. My point was that all people are different and just because one guy can eat 100 grams of sugar a day and lose fat doesn't mean that works for everyone.
Neither does assuming everyone has insulin sensitivity and needs to cut out sugar. Unless they have been advised a medical practitioner there is no reason to be scaremongering about sugar.
Sugar is the current enemy of weight loss the same way that Fat was the enemy of weight loss in the 80's.
I am by no means advocating that everyone should sit and eat a bag of sugar every day and guzzle gallons of coke. But why not just aim for moderation? Regarding the OP, like many of the documentaries that have been on Netflix/Youtube etc, chances are there is very little truth to the claims that were made in them.
At what point did I say sugar should be avoided by everybody all of the time?
My advice was to not make a blanket statement. Please re read my first reply12 -
Man, the FDA makes one suggestion about decreasing added sugar because people weren't getting the micronutrients and protein they needed (it was being crowded out by the added sugar in foods that were low in those nutrients) and people RUN with that *kitten*. They were probably thinking "lol have some fruit instead" and people instead took it as "SUGAR IS LE DEBIL EXORCISE IT".21
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lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »ahmedkarem87 wrote: »I have recently watched documentaries on youtube balming sugar for obesity and camung that if we reduced sugar intake to almost zero the problem will be solved. My question is how to control sugar intake espcially those hidden.
Lies. Absolute lies. What did they try and sell you after the video?
Most weeks I average around 100 grams of sugar per day plus another 100-200 grams of other carbs. I like yogurt a lot. I’m not afraid of added sugar either. Lost plenty of weight just fine. It all comes down to being in an overall calorie deficit
It isn't lies actually.
It is wrong of you to make a blanket statement like this buddy. Be careful on the advice you give others based on your experience.
Everyone is different and people react differently to food. You may be able to consume a high sugar diet (not that this is any good for your health) but other people may suffer from insulin sensitivity. Their body type may lean towards holding onto fat more and require a diet lower in sugars. Some may suffer from a slow metabolic rate or damage, a hormonal or gut imbalance. All of these factor into what they can consume and how much.
Having said that, a diet low in sugars and refined carbohydrates is extremely beneficial to health. Sugar causes inflammation in the body and reducing your sugars and only getting it from natural sources is a no brainer.
Speaking of being careful about the advice you give others - what sort of body type do you think someone has that leads to holding onto fat if in a calorie deficit but eating sugar? I don't believe there is any scientific basis to this statement at all!
That's a fair question, Realistically an endomorph would be prone to insulin sensitivity and slow metabolic rate and therefore benefit for a reduction in sugar. To be clear though, Most people do not fit into one of the three body types.
Noone fits into the body types because somatypes have been debunked for quite some time.
Actually Somatypes are based on hard science, While nobody fits exactly into a body type like i stated above it is a good starting point and although you wouldn't label someone as such, the principle still applies. You are focusing on the wrong part of my point. I was stating that some people hold onto fat easier than others which is a fact. It comes down to how the individuals body reacts to insulin.
What you are suggesting is not based on hard science at all - somatyping came about as a method of determining personality traits not nutrition or fitness. They were also only based on Male body types not both genders. Sheldon's has been widely discredited. He used photos of students without their permission, he never interviewed any of the subjects, so all views were based solely on his opinions/assumptions.
Agreed that the actual study was discredited (like many studies) and while it is true ( as i stated several times) that people don't fit strictly to a specific type, people do lean towards a type, it can be helpful. But again, you are focusing on a small part of what i was saying which is based on the individual. This is all related to insulin. My point was that all people are different and just because one guy can eat 100 grams of sugar a day and lose fat doesn't mean that works for everyone.
Neither does assuming everyone has insulin sensitivity and needs to cut out sugar. Unless they have been advised a medical practitioner there is no reason to be scaremongering about sugar.
Sugar is the current enemy of weight loss the same way that Fat was the enemy of weight loss in the 80's.
I am by no means advocating that everyone should sit and eat a bag of sugar every day and guzzle gallons of coke. But why not just aim for moderation? Regarding the OP, like many of the documentaries that have been on Netflix/Youtube etc, chances are there is very little truth to the claims that were made in them.
At what point did I say sugar should be avoided by everybody all of the time?
My advice was to not make a blanket statement. Please re read my first reply
You mean like in this post:lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
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