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Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.41
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lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.9 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.33 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
If you have a working pancreas, you don't need to regulate insulin as your body naturally does it. Also fruit is low in calories, has fiber and is linked to improved health.
OP,
My smoothies are:
Heavy cream (30g)
1 Scoop of Protein Powder
2 tbsp of unsweetened cocoa
4 oz of almond milk
Im sorry but this is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_resistance21 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
If you have a working pancreas, you don't need to regulate insulin as your body naturally does it. Also fruit is low in calories, has fiber and is linked to improved health.
OP,
My smoothies are:
Heavy cream (30g)
1 Scoop of Protein Powder
2 tbsp of unsweetened cocoa
4 oz of almond milk
Im sorry but this is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_resistance
Sorry bro, you are wrong. Not everyone has insulin resistance, even while they are obese.
OP, you can also incorporate things like peanut butter, chia seeds, protein powders, fruits, veggies, oats, etc...
A few sites I use are: www.theproteinchef.co, www.thedietchefs.com, www.delish.com11 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.8 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.24 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Sugar requirements are based on added sugar, not natural. Every health organization states that.13 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".13 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
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lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
Quote from the link you just posted "The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars."
It's been pointed out to you several times that the recommendations for sugar intake are for added sugars.16 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
From your link:
The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.8 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
I have never had a sugar crash after consuming a smoothie. Not even the fruitiest mango and peach based smoothie (I dislike banana smoothies). Not even when I make them with lots of fresh watermelon, as well as strawberries. IME (although not saying this is true for all), it takes a long time to consume a smoothie with the ingredients I use, and thus feels just as substantial as a regular eaten breakfast (with the same amount of fruit or otherwise). Juice would be different since the amount of juice that would result from the same ingredients would be tiny and the fiber would be largely gone.
The WHO's recommendation is ideally less than 5% of total cals from ADDED sugar. Fruit does not have ANY added sugar, so how can it take up your recommended daily added sugar from the WHO?
Btw, I had fruit in my smoothie this morning, and it still had only 13 g of sugar with 9.5 g of fiber (300 cal, 29 g total carbs, 15 g of fat, 21 g of protein).6 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
From your link:
The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.
Sugar is sugar. It doesn’t matter where it comes from if you over consume sugar it will causing all kinds of problems.
People ignore sugar from carbohydrates,
Vegetables and milk but it all counts.
Your body will break sugar down slower or faster depending on how you consume it but essentially a gram of sugar is a gram where ever it comes from.
You can chose to ignore what I’m saying but those of you who are obese and can’t seem to lose the weight on a calorie controlled diet, then reducing your sugar intake is a great place to start.
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lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
From your link:
The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.
Sugar is sugar. It doesn’t matter where it comes from if you over consume sugar it will causing all kinds of problems.
People ignore sugar from carbohydrates,
Vegetables and milk but it all counts.
Your body will break sugar down slower or faster depending on how you consume it but essentially a gram of sugar is a gram where ever it comes from.
You can chose to ignore what I’m saying but those of you who are obese and can’t seem to lose the weight on a calorie controlled diet, then reducing your sugar intake is a great place to start.
So what you're saying is that you know better than the WHO guidelines that you (inaccurately) referred to?15 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
I have never had a sugar crash after consuming a smoothie. Not even the fruitiest mango and peach based smoothie (I dislike banana smoothies). Not even when I make them with lots of fresh watermelon, as well as strawberries. IME (although not saying this is true for all), it takes a long time to consume a smoothie with the ingredients I use, and thus feels just as substantial as a regular eaten breakfast (with the same amount of fruit or otherwise). Juice would be different since the amount of juice that would result from the same ingredients would be tiny and the fiber would be largely gone.
The WHO's recommendation is ideally less than 5% of total cals from ADDED sugar. Fruit does not have ANY added sugar, so how can it take up your recommended daily added sugar from the WHO?
Btw, I had fruit in my smoothie this morning, and it still had only 13 g of sugar with 9.5 g of fiber (300 cal, 29 g total carbs, 15 g of fat, 21 g of protein).
It’s great for you that you can consume sugar and not have an issues with your weight. If you don’t have trouble then cutting sugar isn’t necessary for you, unless you want to reduce inflammation from the body and reduce other health risks.
I honestly have the best intentions with the information I am offering. Maybe look into the work done by Dr Rhonda Patrick, she has a huge amount of information into sugar and its effects on the human body.
I am only offering this advice because I have had many clients that couldn’t lose the weight until they cut the fruit out. You get plenty of sugar from everything else.15 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
From your link:
The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.
Sugar is sugar. It doesn’t matter where it comes from if you over consume sugar it will causing all kinds of problems.
People ignore sugar from carbohydrates,
Vegetables and milk but it all counts.
Your body will break sugar down slower or faster depending on how you consume it but essentially a gram of sugar is a gram where ever it comes from.
You can chose to ignore what I’m saying but those of you who are obese and can’t seem to lose the weight on a calorie controlled diet, then reducing your sugar intake is a great place to start.
Let me get this straight? You are arguing against the content of the link, that you posted, to support your own argument?
For people who can't seem to lose weight on a calorie controlled diet, most likely they aren't in a calorie deficit, because they are massively underestimating how much they are eating and their portion sizes. Accurately logging their food intake would be a great place to start because that's where the problem lies most of the time.
Here's an example for you:
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lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
When I was in Costa Rico for six weeks I ate tropical fruit all day long and dropped a size without even trying. I observed far less obese local people there than I do in the US.
I also spent two years in another place with a lot of tropical fruit - Okinawa - and don't recall any obese locals there.11 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
From your link:
The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.
Sugar is sugar. It doesn’t matter where it comes from if you over consume sugar it will causing all kinds of problems.
People ignore sugar from carbohydrates,
Vegetables and milk but it all counts.
Your body will break sugar down slower or faster depending on how you consume it but essentially a gram of sugar is a gram where ever it comes from.
You can chose to ignore what I’m saying but those of you who are obese and can’t seem to lose the weight on a calorie controlled diet, then reducing your sugar intake is a great place to start.
Let me get this straight? You are arguing against the content of the link, that you posted, to support your own argument?
For people who can't seem to lose weight on a calorie controlled diet, most likely they aren't in a calorie deficit, because they are massively underestimating how much they are eating and their portion sizes. Accurately logging their food intake would be a great place to start because that's where the problem lies most of the time.
Here's an example for you:
NO. Calories is one part of this. There are many people who no matter how little they eat don’t lose fat. Whether that’s because of insulin issues, imbalances in the gut (leaky gut) etc or hormonal challenges. You can’t say it’s a simple as caloric intake, it just isn’t.28 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »Rule of thumb with smoothies is to avoid using fruit. When you blitz fruit it changes the way your body processes the fructose. If your goal is to lose weight i would avoid fruit all together.
Why would you avoid fruit if your goal is weight loss?
Fruit is a good source of fibre, vitamins & minerals. Fibre can help you feel full which in turn can help you better maintain a calorie deficit, which is what is needed for weight loss.
Fruit is mainly sugar. Yes there are also many health benefits to fruit but all of these can be consumed, without the sugar in the form of vegetables. Avoid the fruit while cutting weight will help regulate your insulin.
You know what also has sugar in them? Vegetables.
Man, do you really want to be that person!?
Of course they do, most food does. But fruit or fructose is called nature’s candy for a reason and one piece is more than your daily requirement of sugar. It’s just logic.
Well given the misinformation you've been posting, yes. I do. Never mind that this all fails to mention that what's important for weight loss is calories, not sugar. And yes, of course there are calories in sugar, but there are also calories in other carbohydrates, protein, etc.
I'm also not sure how you're getting that "one piece" of fruit and/or candy is more than one's daily requirement of sugar. That's not at all logical given the different amounts of sugar in fruit, the wide variety of sizes in fruit, and what constitutes "one piece".
Ok first of all, never said calories were not the most important. They are. Secondly i was suggesting to not consume fruit in smoothies because it is easily over consumed, it changes the way and speed at which the body processes the sugar (causing that post sugar crash where people tend to binge after)
I am not forgetting the other macro's, in fact i am taking those into consideration ...
there is roughly 23 grams of sugar in a large apple.
Recommended daily amounts of sugar:
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
in an average male that doesn't leave you much space in the typical diet.
on top of this, people often consume smoothies first thing in the morning, spiking your insulin which is counter productive.
i could go on if you want. i have plenty more information.
I used to get a sugar crash years ago when I juiced, but that was mostly carrots and other veggies, not a lot (if any) fruit.
I avoid that these days by making smoothies, which retains the fiber, and adding fat and protein.
Apple juice will give me a sugar crash, but not whole apples. However, I don't find apples especially filling unless I pair them with a source of protein and fat, like cheese and/or peanut butter.3
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