Keto is amazing
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Its changed my body shape as well as lost the weight.i was stuck at 12st 12lbs on my CICO then keto and bang 9 lbs off over just a few weeks and my tummy gone.
Keto is amazing and really kickstarts the weight drop
That loss was water weight as your glycogen became depleated. CICO is not a diet, it is the process your body does. I think you mean you were not losing weight doing calorie counting.
CICO is not calorie counting. CICO is what happens behind the scenes on any diet (bulking or cutting).25 -
Folk can knock keto all they want.some just don't like it when something other than CICO works, I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
Gotta be trollin25 -
Its changed my body shape as well as lost the weight.i was stuck at 12st 12lbs on my CICO then keto and bang 9 lbs off over just a few weeks and my tummy gone.
Keto is amazing and really kickstarts the weight drop
Glad it’s working for you. Keto isn’t popular on these MFP streets so, just a heads up lol.
nothing wrong with it... people on MFP are fine with Keto.. what isn't popular is saying diet x y or z is causing weight loss. what causes weight loss, other than water weight, is a deficit. some people do that with Keto, or IF, or WW, or counting calories. So if the diet helps you be in a deficit, great for you, but that doesn't mean others can be satisfied, or that it is the Keto causing the weight loss.17 -
Folk can knock keto all they want.some just don't like it when something other than CICO works, I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
If you're losing weight via keto you ARE losing weight through CICO, which is simply an energy balance equation. Perhaps you are confusing CICO with calorie counting?
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Folk can knock keto all they want.some just don't like it when something other than CICO works, I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
The bolded is why some ketoers gets pushback here. Its not magic. For people who are satiated by the higher fat, keto is a way to stay in a deficit without necessarily counting calories. And often people who succeed on keto feel like they are eating more calories because the fat makes them feel so full. They're still in a deficit, it's just effortless for them.
It's awesome you found a way that works for you! I'm not at all satiated by fat and I always feel sluggish when I eat a lot of meat, cheese, or eggs so it wouldn't work for me at all. I eat @ 50% carbs, that really seems to be the sweet spot for me. Different strategies work for different people, as we are all satiated by different foods and have different cultural influences, food availability, and emotional relationships with food and eating habits.
It's a great feeling when you finally find something that helps everything fall in place for you I lost the weight a couple of years ago and have been easily maintaining since, so I know the feeling!29 -
Folk can knock keto all they want.some just don't like it when something other than CICO works, I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
If you're losing weight on keto, it's because CICO. Some folks just don't like it when people mislead other people who are trying to learn.24 -
It's a good way of eating imho , I never get cravings and I'm rarely hungry.
Been a fantastic find for me.ive no idea how many calories I'm eating in truth, the scales and body shape tell me it's working.but I respect anything that works for others15 -
I would definitely recommend keto even if you are an vegetarian like me24
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Folk can knock keto all they want.some just don't like it when something other than CICO works, I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
No, it's not magic. Initially you may experience a sizeable water weight drop. After that, any weight you lose would only occur if you're also in a calorie deficit. Regardless of what you're eating.14 -
Folk can knock keto all they want.some just don't like it when something other than CICO works, I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
Nobody is really knocking keto. It's a fine way to eat. But there is absolutely nothing (zero.zip.nada) magic about weight loss. It's all about energy balance and nothing more. It can't be anything else. The typical measurement used for energy is the kcal (commonly referred to as the calorie). When energy in > energy out, then your body stores the excess in the form of fat (and muscle if you are adding stress). When energy in < energy out, your body burns food you eat and then burns the energy stored in the form of fat (and some muscle when there is not enough fat to metabolize during a given window of demand).
By the way my weight loss was "kick-started", just by virtue of "starting". Lost a fair amount of water weight early. No magic. Just energy balance.15 -
Folk can knock keto all they want.
Who here has done that?some just don't like it when something other than CICO works
Keto works because of CICO (CI being less than CO if the goal is to lose). CICO is not a diet.I can have bacon, fried eggs etc etc loads of mince with spices and chicken and veg a plenty ...
You can have all those things not doing keto too, I did.
I personally found it hard to fit in the veg I like to eat (I usually have more than 10 servings, sometimes well over) without stressing about going over, especially if I had yogurt (plain) or nuts that day (and I like to have nuts every day), and certainly could not have fit in those things and chocolate too, even dark chocolate, but I understand that's not going to be a problem for many people, and don't assume others have my dietary goals and preferences. I was not suggesting that because I ultimately found nothing special about keto and some things I did not like that it was not going to be a good fit for you or some others -- in fact, I said the opposite!no weighing etc and still the weight comes off you and you get thinner .its magic
It's not magic at all. It's either that it reduces appetite or (often) that you've cut out the foods you tend to overeat and haven't yet found replacements and are probably motivated not to go nuts with the foods you can eat. I could easily overeat on keto, although if I had recently started and was trying to lose I would exercise care with foods such as cheese and nuts and so on so that I would not.
Again, I'm glad you are enjoying it, many people here find it helpful.15 -
Keto is not magic. There are some reasons it helps SOME imho. A increase in protein and basically banning many energy dense Hyperpalitable foods.11
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I fully encourage anyone who thinks that keto will either be a natural fit for them or will help them in some way to give it a try for a period of time. I fully discourage anyone from thinking that it is necessary for weight loss or that they can eat as much as they want because it is magic. I also discourage people from buying ketosis strips.21
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OP, when you reach your goal weight, how do you plan to maintain your weight?8
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L1zardQueen wrote: »OP, when you reach your goal weight, how do you plan to maintain your weight?
Good point. He clearly can't do keto anymore because its "magic" and he will continue to lose weight no matter how much he eats.27 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »OP, when you reach your goal weight, how do you plan to maintain your weight?
Good point. He clearly can't do keto anymore because its "magic" and he will continue to lose weight no matter how much he eats.
"Starvation Mode" to the rescue, then?
Speaking of magic...14 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »OP, when you reach your goal weight, how do you plan to maintain your weight?
Good point. He clearly can't do keto anymore because its "magic" and he will continue to lose weight no matter how much he eats.
"Starvation Mode" to the rescue, then?
Speaking of magic...
Merlin the Ketosis Wizard to the rescue! No OP I dont dislike Keto. It's just a tool in the box imho6 -
Its changed my body shape as well as lost the weight.i was stuck at 12st 12lbs on my CICO then keto and bang 9 lbs off over just a few weeks and my tummy gone.
Keto is amazing and really kickstarts the weight drop
I changed my body shape through weighlifting - now I get to eat even more of the foods that I love (including pizza!) and don't feel restricted. I'm in maintenance and never went keto.
I'm glad keto worked for you but please know you will lose however you create your deficit regardless of food choices and body shape changes as weight lowers and fitness levels change. Maybe keto reduces belly bloat better for some but that doesn't actually come from fat or composition changes.10 -
Its changed my body shape as well as lost the weight.i was stuck at 12st 12lbs on my CICO then keto and bang 9 lbs off over just a few weeks and my tummy gone.
Keto is amazing and really kickstarts the weight drop
I changed my body shape through weighlifting - now I get to eat even more of the foods that I love (including pizza!) and don't feel restricted. I'm in maintenance and never went keto.
I'm glad keto worked for you but please know you will lose however you create your deficit regardless of food choices and body shape changes as weight lowers and fitness levels change. Maybe keto reduces belly bloat better for some but that doesn't actually come from fat or composition changes.
Exactly this. There is no way I would give up pizza for no reason. Carbs are great for fueling workouts and they make me happy. I couldn't be happy eating on a diet as restrictive as keto especially when the restrictions are unnecessary for weight loss.10 -
It would be interesting to see if someone was able to eat their maintenance calories and drop the carbs and see what happens ...3
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