Male Calories Capped at 1,500?

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  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,281 Member
    Maxematics wrote: »
    paperpudding wrote: »
    I'm not sure why that would be woo worthy spadesheart.

    But does seem very low amount for someone of your height (and male?) and you should be eating back some excercise calories.

    In response to Maxematics, 1500 calories is not silly low for many women - I lost on 1460 (net) and didnt need to gnaw my arm off :o

    I said 1500 calories was pretty low for the OP who is a 6'3" man, not a woman; we seem to agree on that front based on your own response to the OP. I just happen to be a woman that 1500 calories is too low for and am aware that not one size fits all. Also, you're talking about 1460 net, not gross. The OP is eating 1500 calories plus half of his exercise calories which, depending on their CI accuracy, can be far less than 1500 net.

    Yes I agree 1500 is likely too low for OP.

    My own 1460, although a net number, didn't equate to much more than that as I didn't really do very much additional excercise.

    Yes I am aware my number isnt everyone's number and may well not be yours - I still think the idea that it is a 'gnaw your arm off' number for many women is wrong.
    Wasnt for me anyway.



  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    So I've progressively lost weight, and my calorie 'allowance' hasn't changed from 1,500 for a while; I checked another calculator and it said it should be 1,350 for me - is there a cap on male allowance?

    So, how much weight have you lost over what period of time eating only 1500, which seems crazy low for a 6'3" man?

    Since really going for it, I've lost 1.5 stone so far this year.

    Assuming January 1st (160 days) you are losing about 1 pound a week. It is actually quite likely you are eating more than you think which in this case is a good thing.

    Also QFT. OP, unless you have a medical condition that has severely restricted your metabolism, you are most likely eating more calories than you think.

    Considering you are just about 10 lbs outside of the healthy weight range for your height, 1 lb per week is kind of perfect, so I would suggest continuing to eat at the level you are. If you would like to know more accurately how many calories you are really eating, check out these posts:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide#latest
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,281 Member
    Maxematics wrote: »
    paperpudding wrote: »
    Maxematics wrote: »
    paperpudding wrote: »
    I'm not sure why that would be woo worthy spadesheart.

    But does seem very low amount for someone of your height (and male?) and you should be eating back some excercise calories.

    In response to Maxematics, 1500 calories is not silly low for many women - I lost on 1460 (net) and didnt need to gnaw my arm off :o

    I said 1500 calories was pretty low for the OP who is a 6'3" man, not a woman; we seem to agree on that front based on your own response to the OP. I just happen to be a woman that 1500 calories is too low for and am aware that not one size fits all. Also, you're talking about 1460 net, not gross. The OP is eating 1500 calories plus half of his exercise calories which, depending on their CI accuracy, can be far less than 1500 net.

    Yes I agree 1500 is likely too low for OP.

    My own 1460, although a net number, didn't equate to much more than that as I didn't really do very much additional excercise.

    Yes I am aware my number isnt everyone's number and may well not be yours - I still think the idea that it is a 'gnaw your arm off' number for many women is wrong.
    Wasnt for me anyway.



    I think we actually agree on everything except my initial post didn't translate the way it was intended to. I didn't mean that to be read as "women with my stats would gnaw their arm off eating x calories"; I'm well aware that I'm more active than most people with my stats. I apologize if it came off otherwise. I meant that I personally would gnaw my arm off at that amount, so it seemed odd to me that someone a foot taller and almost 100 pounds more could sustain that amount for so long with ease and have a pretty low TDEE on top of it; it didn't add up to me. Judging from the past few posts, it seems like that actually may be the case and OP's logging is off.


    Yes we are in agreement then and yes I think your post just came across slightly different than intended.

    All good. :)
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,092 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    So I've progressively lost weight, and my calorie 'allowance' hasn't changed from 1,500 for a while; I checked another calculator and it said it should be 1,350 for me - is there a cap on male allowance?

    So, how much weight have you lost over what period of time eating only 1500, which seems crazy low for a 6'3" man?

    Since really going for it, I've lost 1.5 stone so far this year.

    Assuming January 1st (160 days) you are losing about 1 pound a week. It is actually quite likely you are eating more than you think which in this case is a good thing.

    Hey, you stole what I was going to say! :smile:

    @maliciouspenguin, are you using a scale to weigh your food, and checking the database entries you use for accuracy?

  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    So I've progressively lost weight, and my calorie 'allowance' hasn't changed from 1,500 for a while; I checked another calculator and it said it should be 1,350 for me - is there a cap on male allowance?

    So, how much weight have you lost over what period of time eating only 1500, which seems crazy low for a 6'3" man?

    Since really going for it, I've lost 1.5 stone so far this year.

    Assuming January 1st (160 days) you are losing about 1 pound a week. It is actually quite likely you are eating more than you think which in this case is a good thing.

    Hey, you stole what I was going to say! :smile:

    @maliciouspenguin, are you using a scale to weigh your food, and checking the database entries you use for accuracy?

    I know. I am devious that way. :naughty:
  • maliciouspenguin
    maliciouspenguin Posts: 37 Member
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    So I've progressively lost weight, and my calorie 'allowance' hasn't changed from 1,500 for a while; I checked another calculator and it said it should be 1,350 for me - is there a cap on male allowance?

    So, how much weight have you lost over what period of time eating only 1500, which seems crazy low for a 6'3" man?

    Since really going for it, I've lost 1.5 stone so far this year.

    Assuming January 1st (160 days) you are losing about 1 pound a week. It is actually quite likely you are eating more than you think which in this case is a good thing.

    Hey, you stole what I was going to say! :smile:

    @maliciouspenguin, are you using a scale to weigh your food, and checking the database entries you use for accuracy?

    Yeah - also to add to my weight loss, it's only really kicked on the last two months where I've lost around stone in 2 months. I'm probably losing at 1-1.5lbs most weeks, sometimes more, sometimes less.

    I openly go over my allowance at times, and with eating back part of my exercise calories I know there's no chance of it being 100% accurate, but I've dropped from 231 to 207lbs so far :smile:

    I'd also like to add... I didn't mean to cause any controversy on the topic! I didn't realise asking about eating sub 1,500 (net) calories per day would generate so much (healthy!) debate.

    I really appreciate all your replies/insights/links, I've read and digested (pun intended) them all.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    maliciouspenguin wrote: »
    So I've progressively lost weight, and my calorie 'allowance' hasn't changed from 1,500 for a while; I checked another calculator and it said it should be 1,350 for me - is there a cap on male allowance?

    So, how much weight have you lost over what period of time eating only 1500, which seems crazy low for a 6'3" man?

    Since really going for it, I've lost 1.5 stone so far this year.

    Assuming January 1st (160 days) you are losing about 1 pound a week. It is actually quite likely you are eating more than you think which in this case is a good thing.

    Hey, you stole what I was going to say! :smile:

    @maliciouspenguin, are you using a scale to weigh your food, and checking the database entries you use for accuracy?

    Yeah - also to add to my weight loss, it's only really kicked on the last two months where I've lost around stone in 2 months. I'm probably losing at 1-1.5lbs most weeks, sometimes more, sometimes less.

    I openly go over my allowance at times, and with eating back part of my exercise calories I know there's no chance of it being 100% accurate, but I've dropped from 231 to 207lbs so far :smile:

    I'd also like to add... I didn't mean to cause any controversy on the topic! I didn't realise asking about eating sub 1,500 (net) calories per day would generate so much (healthy!) debate.

    I really appreciate all your replies/insights/links, I've read and digested (pun intended) them all.

    If your eating varies from day to day you should probably be managing yourself on a weekly basis anyway. I eat less than 1500 calories some days but my 7 day average is almost always in a healthy range for my weight loss.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,092 Member
    edited June 2019
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    The Woo reaction has been a problem since it debuted. Here's what is is supposed to be used for:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/31038294/#Comment_31038294
    What does the woo reaction mean? Woo is a term for pseudoscientific explanations that share certain common characteristics, often being too good to be true (aside from being unscientific). Woo is understood specifically as dressing itself in the trappings of science (but not the substance) while involving unscientific concepts, such as anecdotal evidence and sciencey-sounding words.


    Well, that's just someone's opinion in a thread. The only official statement from MFP I've been able to find indicates Woo is a positive reaction.
    How do reactions work?
    Reactions allow members to quickly react in different ways to discussions or comments. The Reactions can be used to highlight interesting discussions, suppress abusive or spam comments, and create more nuanced reputation profiles. Users can receive badges for receiving positive Reactions such as “Like”, “Awesome,” "Insightful", "Inspiring", or "Woo".


    This also implies Woo is positive, since you supposedly can get in trouble for using it to support a post that violates MFP guidelines (like support a VLCD):
    Positive reactions were enabled with the intent to provide an additional positive element to the forums and should be used in a manner that supports our Community Guidelines.

    With that said, any “Like”, “Awesome,” "Insightful", "Inspiring", or "Woo" reaction that is used on a post that breaks our guidelines will be subjected to removal or a warning. It is not ok to promote posts that violate the guidelines and users that do so will be held accountable as well as the original poster.


    https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2673032-how-do-reactions-work-



    Edited to try to see the embedded quote I'm referring to.
  • Spadesheart
    Spadesheart Posts: 479 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    I did not woo Spadeheart, but I suspect the woos were because the post seemed to be encouraging a male poster to ignore the floor and to go ahead and eat only 1200 cal, which I think would be woo'able in that encouraging undereating or suggesting undereating is a good thing could be seen as contrary to the rules of the site and not a good health practice (if someone wrote "jump start your weight loss by eating 1000" I'd consider that woo for sure).

    To be clear, I don't think Spadeheart was actually encouraging such a practice, but wondering about whether 1200 was the real floor since it is possible to close the diary at 1200, but I've seen way weirder posts woo'd (should I bring up the last 5 posts I wrote that were woo'd?).

    I guess I don't get the point of shaking one's finger at some unknown people for hitting woo as if we didn't all get woos that don't seem to fit the technical definition all the time.

    Personally I think we should be able to see who gave the reactions we get.

    I mean, I'm not really shaking my finger at it, just accepting that people are often overly emotional and kind of silly. I maintain that excessive woo's on a post indicates an emotional reaction that the poster illicited by saying something that could be construed as controversial even if it isn't actually. It's the same kind of psychology that gets people to share inflammatory headlines from non legitimate sources on Facebook. They read something, don't really absorb it or think critically about it, and then react. And you're right, adding anonymity to this makes it so people react in petty or negative ways as well.
  • rebootva
    rebootva Posts: 1 Member
    I know this is an old thread, but I needed to figure out why this app would no longer let me change my goal to 1,200 calories. I have used MFP off an on for 10 years. (My wife has a login streak of over 9 years). i for one maintain weight at roughly 1200 net calories. I am not active. So I only want to take in over 1,200 when i am not active (yardwork, out walking, etc). I don’t think any software site should tell an individual what the healthy intake is based on some generality. Just like my XXX body health scale (not sure I should say the brand) makes estimates of water/fat/muscle weight based on generalities and is way off on fat %. I’m thin boned and not lean, but the “average” metrics and other that ALL of these companies use does not fit me. I paid my subscription. Let me do what is right for ME. Stop trying to big brother me. Put a warning or something up. Warn Twice. Three times. But let me use the software the way i want, or i will find someone else to pay $80 per year.
  • pony4us
    pony4us Posts: 161 Member
    Just don't close out your diary and you won't get the message. Just log your food and keep to the calories you want. This is just a tool to track calories in food and calories burned in exercise, nothing more than a tracking tool so use it that way.
    No BIG BROTHER is telling you to do anything.
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    edited August 2023
    rebootva wrote: »
    I know this is an old thread, but I needed to figure out why this app would no longer let me change my goal to 1,200 calories. I have used MFP off an on for 10 years. (My wife has a login streak of over 9 years). i for one maintain weight at roughly 1200 net calories. I am not active. So I only want to take in over 1,200 when i am not active (yardwork, out walking, etc). I don’t think any software site should tell an individual what the healthy intake is based on some generality. Just like my XXX body health scale (not sure I should say the brand) makes estimates of water/fat/muscle weight based on generalities and is way off on fat %. I’m thin boned and not lean, but the “average” metrics and other that ALL of these companies use does not fit me. I paid my subscription. Let me do what is right for ME. Stop trying to big brother me. Put a warning or something up. Warn Twice. Three times. But let me use the software the way i want, or i will find someone else to pay $80 per year.

    They do it for liability reasons. They don't want the app telling someone to eat 900 calories a day because they set it to lose 2 pounds a week and then coming back and suing them saying "MFP destroyed my life and made me develop an eating disorder because it told me to eat 900 calories a day!!!!!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,242 Member
    Given your bones weight between 2.5 to 3.5kg, even if we add some for variation and make it 5 to 8lbs, this is far from a major component of your total weight.

    Calcium and vitamin d may help prevent osteoporosis and so do weight bearing activities if they remain possible since your indicate you're not very active.

    I would discuss weight goals with a doctor and food intake with a dietician to ensure my needs are met.

    After a certain age risks and priorities change (maybe weight stability is more important than loss as an example) and, in any case, an outlier, say a 90 yo 4ft 10" 108lb retired jockey would be unlikely to find appropriate recommendations in an app made for the general public.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    rebootva wrote: »
    I know this is an old thread, but I needed to figure out why this app would no longer let me change my goal to 1,200 calories. I have used MFP off an on for 10 years. (My wife has a login streak of over 9 years). i for one maintain weight at roughly 1200 net calories. I am not active. So I only want to take in over 1,200 when i am not active (yardwork, out walking, etc). I don’t think any software site should tell an individual what the healthy intake is based on some generality. Just like my XXX body health scale (not sure I should say the brand) makes estimates of water/fat/muscle weight based on generalities and is way off on fat %. I’m thin boned and not lean, but the “average” metrics and other that ALL of these companies use does not fit me. I paid my subscription. Let me do what is right for ME. Stop trying to big brother me. Put a warning or something up. Warn Twice. Three times. But let me use the software the way i want, or i will find someone else to pay $80 per year.

    I was surprised to see an adult man claim to maintain at 1200 calories so put in Peter Dinklage's stats. Maintenance calories for someone with his stats are 1500. So unless you are a lot shorter than 4'5" and weigh less than 110 pounds, there is something wrong with your logging. Please don't take this personally. It's actually very common.

    We might be able to spot logging issues if you change your Diary Sharing settings to Public. In the app, go to Settings > Diary Setting > Diary Sharing > and check Public. Desktop: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
  • JimiSellars
    JimiSellars Posts: 8 Member
    Mine is changing. When I started it was 2100 but I was 212 pounds. Now I'm 150 and it has been 1500 for a while. Usually, when I'm done the warning will come on and say I need to eat more. I can't eat more because of the cancer I have. I average 6 to 9 miles a day. I feel ok so I don't worry about it. I have other things to worry about.

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