Weight loss has stopped, and I have gained weight eating at deficit
YomiRizer
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I started my diet 3 years ago. I have lost over 500 lbs so far. I hit 330 in march, and that's where it stopped. I am actually now at 350 and I have no clue why. I eat 1200-1400 calories a day, I do some weight lifting 3 times a week, I don't snack. The doctor says I am fine and it's just water weight and to cut back on salt. Well I have, and I've even started taking water pills. Nothing is coming off. But I haven't gained any inches, nor have I lost any. I'm a 6'0 male, 32 years old. This is stressing me out beyond belief. Does anyone have any clue what this could be?
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Do you weigh your food?5
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Do you weigh your food?
Yes. I eat the exact same thing every day.1 -
How long since you've lost?
Can you open your diary?3 -
Open your diary to public and maybe someone could spot some errors in your logging.2
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Why are you eating so little calories? You need more calories....May I suggest using a TDEE calculator....Your TDEE - 20% or even 25%
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Your doctor just dismissed 20 pounds of water weight? Were there tests run to check kidney function? Were you checked for edema? Are you keeping an eye on your BP? Was a low dose diuretic even discussed?
I can't diagnose you. My doctor, who tested everything, theorized that my own ability to retain 17+ pounds of water was a result of my considerable fat loss and something he called "empty spaces". It was about 7 weeks before I finally got back to a new low. I knew I was in a calorie deficit so the only stress was the bloat I felt.
Good job at the 500 pounds by the way. That is very impressive.12 -
I will say that it was QUITE alarming the first time it happened. I mean I knew it was water but I didn't understand why I was shooting way up over the normal 5 or so pounds. I was on a diet break eating maintenance at the time and all the sudden the scale started going up 3 and 4 pounds per day.5
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Do you weigh your food?
Yes. I eat the exact same thing every day.
This is not the same thing as weighing your food. Do you use a food scale to weigh ALL of the food you eat?15 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Do you weigh your food?
Yes. I eat the exact same thing every day.
This is not the same thing as weighing your food. Do you use a food scale to weigh ALL of the food you eat?
Keep in mind for him to go from losing to just maintenance would require more than 1500 calories of errors. I think it is more plausible that water is masking his continued fat loss.9 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »How long since you've lost?
Can you open your diary?
I don't really use the diary. I used it just to figure out how many calories I was eating and didn't use it since cause my meals are exactly the same every day.Megan_smartiepants1970 wrote: »Why are you eating so little calories? You need more calories....May I suggest using a TDEE calculator....Your TDEE - 20% or even 25%
I used a TDEE calculator, it suggested 1800 calories a day but I wanted to lose weight faster. I dropped my calories until I started feeling sick then brought them up until I felt normal. This was way before my weight loss completely stopped.Your doctor just dismissed 20 pounds of water weight? Were there tests run to check kidney function? Were you checked for edema? Are you keeping an eye on your BP? Was a low dose diuretic even discussed?
I can't diagnose you. My doctor, who tested everything, theorized that my own ability to retain 17+ pounds of water was a result of my considerable fat loss and something he called "empty spaces". It was about 7 weeks before I finally got back to a new low. I knew I was in a calorie deficit so the only stress was the bloat I felt.
Good job at the 500 pounds by the way. That is very impressive.
He ran tests. Everything about me is perfectly fine. Except for me being fat my body is in perfect health.
Well it is. If I know my porkchop is 4 oz and all my pork chops every single day are the same size, then I know how much they weigh.lynn_glenmont wrote: »Do you weigh your food?
Yes. I eat the exact same thing every day.
This is not the same thing as weighing your food. Do you use a food scale to weigh ALL of the food you eat?
Yes I weigh all of my food.
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What was your rate of loss for the 2 months leading up to the 330?
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Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.76
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That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?6 -
delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.1 -
I do alternate day fasting with a longer fast(72 hrs ) once or twice a month29
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delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?3 -
delimanager640 wrote: »I do alternate day fasting with a longer fast(72 hrs ) once or twice a month
If you mean a true fast where you don't eat anything this is not a great idea when you are also being fairly aggressive on your weight loss. You need to make sure you are only burning fat and if you pile on a true fast you run the risk of burning lean body mass.18 -
delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?
250? Oh no. I'm not at a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm eating 1200 calories, it's a 1500 calorie deficit.
The water pills are over the counter.
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delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?
250? Oh no. I'm not at a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm eating 1200 calories, it's a 1500 calorie deficit.
The water pills are over the counter.
I think it is time to talk you your doctor about a low dose diuretic. If you get one you will likely want to buy some sports drinks because dropping that much water is hard on you and your electrolyte balance.
I know your deficit is 1500. You need to consider dropping it to 1250. The confusion is that I don't know how you are getting to 2700 on your TDEE so I assumed you were eating a little more than you thought.6 -
delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?
250? Oh no. I'm not at a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm eating 1200 calories, it's a 1500 calorie deficit.
The water pills are over the counter.
The confusion is that I don't know how you are getting to 2700 on your TDEE so I assumed you were eating a little more than you thought.
I don't know what you mean by that.1 -
Oh and men are not supposed to eat below 1500 calories. That is the line for minimum nutrition. It occurs to me that if you are eating the same thing each day you could be deficient in potassium which could be contributing to your current problem. I don't know that for sure but if all your nutrition comes from the same sources each day it is a possibility.13
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delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?
250? Oh no. I'm not at a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm eating 1200 calories, it's a 1500 calorie deficit.
The water pills are over the counter.
The confusion is that I don't know how you are getting to 2700 on your TDEE so I assumed you were eating a little more than you thought.
I don't know what you mean by that.
When I run your stats I get almost 3000. You say it is 2700. I am not sure how you are getting that.
https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/2 -
delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
"Dr" Jason Fung is a junk scientist.40 -
Oh and men are not supposed to eat below 1500 calories. That is the line for minimum nutrition. It occurs to me that if you are eating the same thing each day you could be deficient in potassium which could be contributing to your current problem. I don't know that for sure but if all your nutrition comes from the same sources each day it is a possibility.delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?
250? Oh no. I'm not at a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm eating 1200 calories, it's a 1500 calorie deficit.
The water pills are over the counter.
The confusion is that I don't know how you are getting to 2700 on your TDEE so I assumed you were eating a little more than you thought.
I don't know what you mean by that.
When I run your stats I get almost 3000. You say it is 2700. I am not sure how you are getting that.
https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
I can try increasing my calories back up to 1500. But why would I lose weight at 1200 then suddenly stop?
I'm using a different calculator than you do. But if that is correct, then it says my light exercise takes me up to 3400 TDEE. That seems like a rather large jump.1 -
Did they test your kidney function?0
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You say you eat the same every day. Is it the same packaged food from a supermarket? Is it from a restaurant? Something you prepare yourself?
If a) there might be up to 20% difference in calories
If b) there's no way of knowing how many calories. It will likely be a lot higher than you think.
If c) portion creep is a real thing, otherwise we'd not gain weight. Please use your diary for a few days and weigh everything you eat to be sure.9 -
You lost 500 pounds?!
You are incredible!!! That is the most amazing thing I have read on here.
I can't give you any advice. Just wanted to acknowledge your loss.16 -
bernadettenz wrote: »You lost 500 pounds?!
You are incredible!!! That is the most amazing thing I have read on here.
I can't give you any advice. Just wanted to acknowledge your loss.
Ditto! I know you feel frustrated at the moment but you’ve also got to be bursting with pride at your accomplishments so far.
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Oh and men are not supposed to eat below 1500 calories. That is the line for minimum nutrition. It occurs to me that if you are eating the same thing each day you could be deficient in potassium which could be contributing to your current problem. I don't know that for sure but if all your nutrition comes from the same sources each day it is a possibility.delimanager640 wrote: »Your BMR has decreased. Try intermittent fasting. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. Read the Obesity Code. It changed my life.
Already doing 16/8 IF.
That is what I figured. You were in about a 1500 calorie deficit. Your TDEE should be just south of 3000 so you were eating 1500ish calories a day. Once you get this situation behind you, you really should consider 1750 and slowing down by .5 pound per week. You are quickly approaching the area when you need to start losing like other people.
These water pills you are trying... are they OTC or prescription?
Things say my TDEE is around 2700. I can try increasing my calories, but have no clue what to change in my diet to do that.
32 M, 330lbs, 72 inches high, Sedentary = I have at 2982.
250 is an easy increase. A little extra oil or cheese in a salad will get you most of the way there.
What about those water pills? Is that something you bought over the counter or did the doctor prescribe something for you?
ETA: On your TDEE do you think you are below sedentary?
250? Oh no. I'm not at a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm eating 1200 calories, it's a 1500 calorie deficit.
The water pills are over the counter.
The confusion is that I don't know how you are getting to 2700 on your TDEE so I assumed you were eating a little more than you thought.
I don't know what you mean by that.
When I run your stats I get almost 3000. You say it is 2700. I am not sure how you are getting that.
https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
I can try increasing my calories back up to 1500. But why would I lose weight at 1200 then suddenly stop?
I'm using a different calculator than you do. But if that is correct, then it says my light exercise takes me up to 3400 TDEE. That seems like a rather large jump.
I am not suggesting you increase calories to lose weight. I am suggesting that you increase them to lose at a healthy rate.
If you are still eating 1200 calories and even if you are eating slightly more than you realize you ARE losing fat weight. Your extreme water retention is masking your progress. If you go back and re-read one of my earlier posts to you, you should see that a similar situation happened to me. I needed medical assistance to keep my water levels normalized and once they returned to their normal range I had continued to lose fat weight because I was in a deficit most of the time while it happened. In other words, when it was over I got on the scale and it was a new lower number that I had not previously seen. The whole experience took about 7 weeks.
If you have been unable to shed any of this water gain naturally in 2 months it is time to speak to your doctor again and see what he/she thinks about putting you on a real water pill/diuretic. It is harder to do the things we need to do for weight loss when we are bloated to that degree. For me it was very uncomfortable and it put additional weight back on my knee that bothers me.
The only way to really calculate your average TDEE is by monitoring your food intake and weight loss. It requires that you use a food scale and verify the weights of everything you eat. We know your calorie deficit is ~1500 per day. You think your food calories are 1200 but I question that because you don't log daily. You mentioned your 4 ounce pork chop but I find it amazing you can eat pork chops each day that are exactly 4 ounces unless you are trimming them to make that work.
You have found a system of eating that works for you and it has worked for 500 pounds which is impressive. There may come a time that it stops working though as you lose weight and your TDEE continues to decline which shrinks your margins and deficit. If that happens it will be time to change so your weight loss continues. I don't think that is happening today unless you made a huge departure from what you were doing early in the year like suddenly drinking a lot of calories.18
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