what do you think if your spouse/so said to you:
Thought this site would give me a good mix of opinions from men and women.
Long story short.... dh and i had a very big argument tonight...which ended up with him being kicked out.
During the argument he came out with a very interesting statement. He said to me :
(Edited for language...cant type the actual word he used)
I didnt 'sleep with' ALL of them!
This was during a part where i told him that it was interesting that he used to work and get home 2 hours or so late several times a week after he started accusing me of having an affair....which is funny because all i do is work and go home.
He immediately tried to take it back, but i'm not buying it.....would you?
Long story short.... dh and i had a very big argument tonight...which ended up with him being kicked out.
During the argument he came out with a very interesting statement. He said to me :
(Edited for language...cant type the actual word he used)
I didnt 'sleep with' ALL of them!
This was during a part where i told him that it was interesting that he used to work and get home 2 hours or so late several times a week after he started accusing me of having an affair....which is funny because all i do is work and go home.
He immediately tried to take it back, but i'm not buying it.....would you?
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I'm not sure because i don't know him. I would wait until you've both had the chance to calm down, and then talk it out. Don't yell at each other, or say things that can't be taken back. Just talk. Maybe he said it because he was angry, or maybe he really did sleep with someone. You won't know though, until it gets talked out. Good luck.0
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I'm not sure I understand....he was saying he had slept with someone else? If so, he is either insecure or feeling guilt over something he did. Its really hard to weigh in on situations with people I don't know. I'm sorry you guys are having a rough time.0
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^ that.
Sometimes in the heat of things someone will fire off the most hurtful thing they can think of. But, it may very well be true. Let him calm down and ask him about it.0 -
Nope. Sure as shyt wouldn't buy that. Statistics show that the cheater will actually acuse the other person of cheating.0
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OOPS.
i wouldnt buy it either0 -
I lost you when you said your husband was kicked out of his house.0
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depends, were you saying something along the lines, of "and you were out sleeping with all those women" . it really depends one where you put the emphasis like "I DIDN'T sleep with all of them" Or "I didn't sleep with ALL of them" two totally different means there. But like everyone else has said, I wasn't there for the argument. Sounds like a sucky fight no matter what though, sorry you are going through it.0
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It's hard to say! My SO likes to be a Jack@$$ when we are fighting especially if its over the phone and he has said stupid crap like I ask where are you? and he says "getting laid" but is really at his parents house because he's being pissy but you SO coming home late and then accusing you of cheating tend to be signs that something is going on. and the fact that he said it wasn't "ALL OF THEM" could have been an admission that he didn't mean to slip out. Try talking to him and get FULL DISCLOSURE and then decide if you believe him. But if your guts says it's true it most likely is - you know him best
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He slept with someone and to make it look all right in his eyes he turned the tables on you...there was at least ONE someone he slept with..0
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I'm not exactly sure of the situation .. or what is meant by "ALL of them" ... but sleeping with ANY of them would be enough for me. Secondly, I think for women an emotional affair is just as bad if not worse as a physical one. For me they are one in the same. If you have kicked him out, make sure he stays out. The reality is if you let him back into the house ... you are starting a pattern of poor behavior and an even more unhealthy relationship. If you do end up trying to work things out with him, do it with him outside of the house. This will allow him to know how serious you are, and that you have self- worth.0
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I'm not sure because i don't know him. I would wait until you've both had the chance to calm down, and then talk it out. Don't yell at each other, or say things that can't be taken back. Just talk. Maybe he said it because he was angry, or maybe he really did sleep with someone. You won't know though, until it gets talked out. Good luck.
Internet advice should always follow the rule of caution...as the suggestion above does. We don't KNOW what happened, we don't KNOW the people, and we sure as hell can ruin what might be fixable faster than anyone would believe possible...with just a few short posts.
That being said, my ex accused me of cheating...looking at other women, hitting on other women, flirting with other women...regularly.
She of course was the one that cheated on me.
Now, wether this was a factor of her being positive I cheated, or feeling so guilty for her own thoughts/actions that she had to accuse me, I don't know...but the results were the same.
Anyhow, as was suggested...wait till you're calm...then talk it out. I'd suggest some sort of mediator, perhaps counselling. It's not often that people in this situation fix things to any level of real satisfaction...on their own. I'm truly sorry for you both =(.0 -
Nope. Sure as shyt wouldn't buy that. Statistics show that the cheater will actually acuse the other person of cheating.
She is soo right my ex of a scum bag bf did this to me0 -
ouch, thats a bummer. I have also heard its usually the accuser who is cheating in the first place. Props to you for kicking him out and showing your self worth, men like that are huge self esteem downers!0
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Sincerely, I beg you not to take advice here on your marriage. This is a MARRIAGE. This isn't a fight over who at the last Sargento Reduced Fat Individually Wrapped String Cheese with my initials clearly Sharpied on the package.
This is years of love, struggle, arguments, loss, laughter, caring, possibly children...
Try to find a way to have a calm conversation about the two of you and your future together. Better yet some counseling with a moderator to help you communicate.
I am rarely serious... But asking strangers who are all tainted by their own experiences about something so very personal can not end well. And marriage, as well as the decision to stay in it or end it, should be taken seriously.0 -
Sincerely, I beg you not to take advice here on your marriage. This is a MARRIAGE. This isn't a fight over who at the last Sargento Reduced Fat Individually Wrapped String Cheese with my initials clearly Sharpied on the package.
This is years of love, struggle, arguments, loss, laughter, caring, possibly children...
Try to find a way to have a calm conversation about the two of you and your future together. Better yet some counseling with a moderator to help you communicate.
I am rarely serious... But asking strangers who are all tainted by their own experiences about something so very personal can not end well. And marriage, as well as the decision to stay in it or end it, should be taken seriously.
This is the best internet advice...ever. And I'm not just saying that because it closely resembles my own. The internet can be a horrid tool for destruction when it comes to relationship advice...and that's really pretty much the end of it.
And odusgolp...I also noted your initial post in this thread. You're clearly one of a rare (unfortunately anymore) breed of woman. I am very lucky in that my girlfriend is of a similar mold.
Hat's off hun.0 -
Sincerely, I beg you not to take advice here on your marriage. This is a MARRIAGE. This isn't a fight over who at the last Sargento Reduced Fat Individually Wrapped String Cheese with my initials clearly Sharpied on the package.
This is years of love, struggle, arguments, loss, laughter, caring, possibly children...
Try to find a way to have a calm conversation about the two of you and your future together. Better yet some counseling with a moderator to help you communicate.
I am rarely serious... But asking strangers who are all tainted by their own experiences about something so very personal can not end well. And marriage, as well as the decision to stay in it or end it, should be taken seriously.
This. Absolutely this.0 -
Sincerely, I beg you not to take advice here on your marriage. This is a MARRIAGE. This isn't a fight over who at the last Sargento Reduced Fat Individually Wrapped String Cheese with my initials clearly Sharpied on the package.
This is years of love, struggle, arguments, loss, laughter, caring, possibly children...
Try to find a way to have a calm conversation about the two of you and your future together. Better yet some counseling with a moderator to help you communicate.
I am rarely serious... But asking strangers who are all tainted by their own experiences about something so very personal can not end well. And marriage, as well as the decision to stay in it or end it, should be taken seriously.
This is the best internet advice...ever. And I'm not just saying that because it closely resembles my own. The internet can be a horrid tool for destruction when it comes to relationship advice...and that's really pretty much the end of it.
And odusgolp...I also noted your initial post in this thread. You're clearly one of a rare (unfortunately anymore) breed of woman. I am very lucky in that my girlfriend is of a similar mold.
Hat's off hun.
Thanks darlin0 -
ok, so we do NOT know you and more over, we do NOT know him, but with not knowing anyone but a PARTIAL story, I have always heard the "guilty" throw the other party under the bus and accuse them of doing the same, because they are guilty.... BUT, PLEASE BE ADVISED, THIS IS NOT KNOWING THE ENTIRE SITUATION OR WHAT HAS OR IS GOING ON. Please collect yourself, allow him to do the same (a few days at the very least), THEN talk, maybe with a mediator, unless you feel comfortable enough to do so alone. Do NOT make rash decisions right this minute and please do NOT take advice from others on the internet.... Best of luck, sweetie!!!0
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I would go with your gut feeling, if a relationship doesn't make you happy i'd find another one that did.
And if he dint but hes saying those things to hurt you? maybe because of your huge weight-loss hes scared you'll find another? in that case what an evil man.0 -
im just focusing on the statement ''i didnt sleep with all of them'', suggesting he slept with at least one other person. thats a deal breaker right there. of course, if he just said that to be an *kitten*, then you have to find out, but if you find out he has slept with someone, case closed for me.0
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Sincerely, I beg you not to take advice here on your marriage. This is a MARRIAGE. This isn't a fight over who at the last Sargento Reduced Fat Individually Wrapped String Cheese with my initials clearly Sharpied on the package.
This is years of love, struggle, arguments, loss, laughter, caring, possibly children...
Try to find a way to have a calm conversation about the two of you and your future together. Better yet some counseling with a moderator to help you communicate.
I am rarely serious... But asking strangers who are all tainted by their own experiences about something so very personal can not end well. And marriage, as well as the decision to stay in it or end it, should be taken seriously.
This is the best internet advice...ever. And I'm not just saying that because it closely resembles my own. The internet can be a horrid tool for destruction when it comes to relationship advice...and that's really pretty much the end of it.
And odusgolp...I also noted your initial post in this thread. You're clearly one of a rare (unfortunately anymore) breed of woman. I am very lucky in that my girlfriend is of a similar mold.
Hat's off hun.
What both of these two said. If you really want you relationship work you need to talk when you are both calm. Also personally I wouldn't talk to people on here about it. The only person who can answer your questions is him.0 -
please understand i'm not taking internet advice and using it as rock solid decisions here.. just that comment really stuck out. (oh and the emphasis was that he didn't sleep with ALL of them.. ) I just needed a moment to vent and I'd heard/read in the past that the one accusing can often be the one that has already done it.
if interested...
the back story is that my husband is emotionally and verbally abusive ( oh and he tries financially). I've researched it and printed and higlighted it to show him when he's in his good moments. he's actually said to me that as long as he doesn't hit me its not abuse. he is selfish and if the world does not revolve around him and his health and his needs then he has temper tantrums. The average time span is a week to 10 days for a regular tantrum and about once a month for the week long nit pick tantrum which has been this week.
he will not go for counseling because it costs money and he thinks if he ignores the issues they go away so he won't even look for a low cost or free one even though we can afford a regular fee. He spends money like no tomorrow and everything is HIS... because he paid for it. Yet I'm the one thats worked 2 or 3 jobs ( in the past, only 1 now) and never had any money to show for it. When he was in charge of bills we almost lost our previous apartment twice as well as got behind on all the bills.
when he nearly died in November I was willing to work on the marriage again and tried. I ignored the snippy attitude because he was frustrated. He's lost his sight ( all reversible) over the last 3 months and has cataract surgery monday morning to restore it partially until the bleeding can be cleared up to restore it fully. Because of this I do EVERYTHING. I work, i clean, when home DS is all mine ( which is fine with me) but DH complains and gets nasty when things aren't done the way he wants. All he does is sit in the recliner and watch tv. I've watched him nearly die thru his own lack of care with diabetes ( he's non compliant and thinks he's fooled all the dr's when he's fooled no one).. and the truth is I'm still watching him die.. he was just back in the hospital last month for sepsis again. I'm expected to jump at his slightest need and he feels the need to have to remind me to do things. I can live on my own just fine .. and I have. I don't ask him for anything because he never gives anything back to anyone. He takes and takes and takes and then gets mad when its not fast enough. Then turns around and tells lies about me to his family when i stand up for myself.
I've talked to him ( calmly and rationally with all the right ways) to get it thru to him that I'm exhausted and drained and frustrated too. I'm brushed aside and told I don't understand what its like for him. His parents have heard how he talks to me and have on numerous occasions have tried to calmly talk to him about how thats not how a marriage works, my best friend has tried several times but he does not want to hear it. He is never wrong there is an excuse for everything. He's not taken responsibility for anything ever. I've dealt with several issues that I needed the support of my husband.. and been brushed aside for everyone else. I've been telling him for 5 years that he needs to understand that I'm not going to be there when he's ready to make time for me. Bear in mind this temper tantrum behavior is a normal for him and not something that has only developed since his heart attack in November.
I've been advised by countless people to take a break or move on.. friends as well as professional counselors ( that was an interesting conversation) and my view was that I took vows and to me thats not to be taken lightly and i tried. I've tried different ways to get thru to him and I've told him how he can best support me in bad times or how I need XYZ during times of stress or arguments with him. Never ever once has any boundry or request been acted on. Everything is his way.. no excuses and my ways are wrong so he tells me how I'm supposed to be. last night was too much and I just got tired of the constant battles. Not to mention I see him doing it to our son who is only 4 and DH thinks that DS should be a stepford child who only gets told something once and can do it perfectly and do it immediately when told.0 -
.....Not to mention I see him doing it to our son who is only 4 and DH thinks that DS should be a stepford child who only gets told something once and can do it perfectly and do it immediately when told.0
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Your backstory is another example of why I would never be married. You're stuck with a guy who treats you like crap and won't do anything about it because *your* views of your vows have him locked in no matter what he does.
The truth: He won't change ************BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE TO************* You won't do anything if he doesn't, and he's comfortable not giving a *kitten* about your feelings of well-being.
Honestly, your friends and the counselor are right.... you need to go. Work on your marriage from a distance. It's going to consume you. This issue you've raised today is one of many "small things he said" that will pile up and drive you absolutely mad.0 -
If MY husband said that, absolutely not. But then I can't imagine him accusing me of an affair either. I don't know if your husband is the type to say that stuff when it's not true or not, but it's not the kind of thing I, personally, could live with.0
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Only you can know whether your marriage is saveable. No one else here knows the details, or your feelings.
I think if there is love, everything else can be surmounted. If there isn't, nothing will save it. That is for you alone to decide.
From a personal standpoint, I couldn't be with a jealous man. If someone accused me of infidelity I would be out of the door, or he would. Jealousy is one trait I cannot live with.0 -
Oh man, your son is being verbally abused too. Do you really not have enough balls to want more for yourself and your child? What's more important, your vows? Or your child's emotional wellbeing? Since people who matter to you (his family, your friends, etc.) can't seem to get through to you, I don't know WTF you want from here. I rarely say anything to anyone on this board about the stupid decisions they make, but you're sitting here wondering if you got cheated on while your husband is squeezing the self-esteem out of not only you but your 4 year old.... *head-scratch* Really?!
I'm not of the "Oh he can change" camp. He won't. People don't change unless they HAVE to.0 -
I'm sad to hear that you and your family are having a difficult time. It appears as though you recognize that you both need counseling. I think that if your husband doesn't want to attend, you should take it upon yourself to go on your own and seek help from a professional. This forum is not for a professional opinion which is what you need. We all have issues and I could write a huge post myself regarding my last two years, but this is a fitness and health forum. I know that the chit-chat, fun and games message board can relate to many topics, but I think your situation should be handled by a local professional. Once you get your personal house in order, I'm sure your physical health will continue to improve as well. I wish you and your family good luck and keep you in my thoughts and prayers.0
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BTW, "vows" are irrelevant. If he isn't upholding the vows he took (to love, honour, etc), then they are already broken. In a relationship, love is was matters. The rest is irrelevant human construct. If there is love, you can mend it. If there isn't, there's no point.0
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It seems to me your decision is already made. So now would be the perfect time to act upon it, especially before your son gets any older.
No excuses. Not the cataracts. Not the need to know whether or not their were affairs (doesn't really seem to matter). Not fear of being alone... Lawyers... Money.... No excuses.
You need to be decisive, strong, and firm in your decision & expectations for the sake of that little for year old if not for yourself.
I wish you, and that little boy, nothing but the best.0
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