Carnivore diet

dws00
dws00 Posts: 159 Member
edited December 22 in Food and Nutrition
Anyone have any experience with the carnivore diet? Good or bad? Thanks.
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  • dws00
    dws00 Posts: 159 Member
    Anyone???
  • busyPK
    busyPK Posts: 3,788 Member
    Friend of mine on here does the carnivore diet - @T1DCarnivoreRunner

  • Crafty_camper123
    Crafty_camper123 Posts: 1,440 Member
    I mean I like meat and cheese as much as the next person. But it doesn't sound healthy or sustainable. Supposedly people can get thier micronutrients from bone broth and such, but I find it hard to believe nutritional deficiancies wont creep up along the way. I mean I guess if it really worked for you as a lifetime WOE, you could supplement with a multivitamin. But I personally would get very bored of nothing but meat and dairy quick.
  • Roza42
    Roza42 Posts: 246 Member
    edited August 2019
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Roza42 wrote: »
    Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.

    I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!

    ? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?
    Roza42 wrote: »
    Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.

    I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!

    ? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?

    You're missing that this is a diet plan, I guess. I don't believe people following a carnivore diet are actually hunting down prey and eating the entire animal, including stomach contents.

    Sorry, just saying that carnivores eat veggies and grass as well. But I guess carnivore stands for I don't like vegetable matter, lol.
  • Phirrgus
    Phirrgus Posts: 1,894 Member
    Roza42 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Roza42 wrote: »
    Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.

    I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!

    ? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?
    Roza42 wrote: »
    Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.

    I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!

    ? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?

    You're missing that this is a diet plan, I guess. I don't believe people following a carnivore diet are actually hunting down prey and eating the entire animal, including stomach contents.

    Sorry, just saying that carnivores eat veggies and grass as well. But I guess carnivore stands for I don't like vegetable matter, lol.

    Eh? I like veggies fine, but if I follow a way of eating that doesn't allow veggies, then no veggies...or grass....or trees and flowers.

    Sounds awfully restrictive to me.
  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.

    Just gonna leave this here:
    "Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.

    Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.

    Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.

    Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."

    https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/
    My cats eat grass when they don’t feel well.
  • Phirrgus
    Phirrgus Posts: 1,894 Member
    Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.

    Just gonna leave this here:
    "Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.

    Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.

    Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.

    Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."

    https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/

    Thanks for that!
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.

    Just gonna leave this here:
    "Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.

    Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.

    Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.

    Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."

    https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/

    By that definition, vegans are carnivores... specifically hypocarnivores since less than 30% of their diet comes from animal meat.

    A simple dictionary definition:
    an animal (such as a dog, fox, crocodile, or shark) that feeds primarily or exclusively on animal matter

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/carnivore

    I can't help that you disagree with scientific classification. This is another instance of facts being greater than your personal opinion, though.

    Even if you go off the definition that includes vegans as carnivores, that doesn't change the fact tha we are talking about a specific WOE. Just like you can't claim to be eating a keto diet when you eat a dozen pop-tarts every day, you can't say you follow the carnivore WOE and also eat a bunch of salads. Or, you could say about anything, I suppose... that doesn't make it so. There are clear parameters about what is or is not carnivore. I'm really loose whereas some carnivore purists are on the opposite side if the spectrum. I personally believe it is ok to do carnivore as it works for you. Still, there is a difference between omnivores and carnivores. A WOE with "grass" (salad) is not a carnivore WOE.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    naomi8888 wrote: »
    I have heard Jordan Peterson and his daughter love it for managing autoimmune issues.

    A close friend of mine also uses a carnivore-like diet to manage her autoimmune disease. However, even though that WOE helps her feel better, she can't manage it 100% of the time. It's too restrictive. She's been experimenting with introducing very small amounts of plants.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    BTW, pork chitterlings, livers, bladders, and ground meats (including ground digestive parts) are all carnivore-friendly.
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