Carnivore diet
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dws00
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Anyone have any experience with the carnivore diet? Good or bad? Thanks.
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Anyone???1
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Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.21
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You can try asking in the Low Carber group. Carnivore is a pretty extreme and restrictive way to eat, I would think relatively few people have experience with it.7
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I have heard Jordan Peterson and his daughter love it for managing autoimmune issues. I have heard Shawn Baker talk about how great he feels on it (apparently his blood work didn't come back great though...). There are some good Joe Rogan podcasts with both of them.
Personally I don't think it's a sustainable diet for most people so I don't see the point in doing it but each to their own.9 -
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another NON sustainable or healthy diet for most. Plus, I prefer my meat cooked.
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concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!6 -
lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?6 -
I mean I like meat and cheese as much as the next person. But it doesn't sound healthy or sustainable. Supposedly people can get thier micronutrients from bone broth and such, but I find it hard to believe nutritional deficiancies wont creep up along the way. I mean I guess if it really worked for you as a lifetime WOE, you could supplement with a multivitamin. But I personally would get very bored of nothing but meat and dairy quick.4
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lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?
You're missing that this is a diet plan, I guess. I don't believe people following a carnivore diet are actually hunting down prey and eating the entire animal, including stomach contents.15 -
There is a group for it, I think.
I couldn't do it myself. I am convinced that vegetables are healthy, as well as tasty.9 -
lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?
You're missing that this is a diet plan, I guess. I don't believe people following a carnivore diet are actually hunting down prey and eating the entire animal, including stomach contents.
Sorry, just saying that carnivores eat veggies and grass as well. But I guess carnivore stands for I don't like vegetable matter, lol.2 -
concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
The few that have come through here have said that wasn't important on an all meat diet. I have no idea why that would be the case or not.
OP:
From what I remember reading (accuracy is not guaranteed here) you have to eat certain organs in order to maintain nutrition. I have no idea how often, if that is true, or if that is enough.
So there are obviously a lot of concerns here. It is highly restrictive. Meat is higher calorie so you might find yourself eating more to stay full. You may have a genetic disposition for high cholesterol from food. Last but not least is maintaining nutrition. You would need regular doctors appointments and in-depth blood work to make sure you are okay.
This is not a decision to make lightly. A badly researched and implemented drastic change in nutrition could lead to a hospital visit or worse.
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lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?
You're missing that this is a diet plan, I guess. I don't believe people following a carnivore diet are actually hunting down prey and eating the entire animal, including stomach contents.
Sorry, just saying that carnivores eat veggies and grass as well. But I guess carnivore stands for I don't like vegetable matter, lol.
Eh? I like veggies fine, but if I follow a way of eating that doesn't allow veggies, then no veggies...or grass....or trees and flowers.
Sounds awfully restrictive to me.1 -
lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?lalalacroix wrote: »concordancia wrote: »Fiber is an important nutrient for humans.
I couldn't imagine the constipation effect!
? I don't get it. Carnivores generally eat the stomach content of prey as well. You know wolves are chowing down their rodents whole. What am I missing?
You're missing that this is a diet plan, I guess. I don't believe people following a carnivore diet are actually hunting down prey and eating the entire animal, including stomach contents.
Sorry, just saying that carnivores eat veggies and grass as well. But I guess carnivore stands for I don't like vegetable matter, lol.
Yep, just like the Paleo diet doesn't have you eating just like Paleolithic man, the Carnivore diet doesn't have you eating just like a carnivore. I doubt either would get much bandwidth if they did! They're just catchy names.7 -
Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.
ETA: I see many people who have never eaten carnivore, never looked into it, and don't even understand that carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" seem to believe themselves as experts. OP, if you go carnivore, you should expect this as the norm. And yes, I know many will "woo" this simply because they don't understand it and are unhappy about their lack of understanding... just not enough to be willing to learn.13 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.
Just gonna leave this here:
"Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.
Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.
Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.
Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/19 -
My cats eat grass when they don’t feel well.BecomingBane wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.
Just gonna leave this here:
"Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.
Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.
Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.
Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/
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BecomingBane wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.
Just gonna leave this here:
"Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.
Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.
Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.
Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/
Thanks for that!2 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »
My cats eat grass when they don’t feel well.BecomingBane wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Yes, there is a group on MFP. Fiber is necessary to best digest other plants, but not for carnivores. And carnivores don't eat "vegetables and grass" - that does not even make sense to anyone who understands what the word "carnivore" means.
Just gonna leave this here:
"Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.
Most carnivores are not obligate carnivores. A hypercarnivore is an organism that depends on animals for at least 70 percent of its diet. Plants, fungi, and other nutrients make up the rest of their food. All obligate carnivores, including cats, are hypercarnivores. Sea stars, which prey mostly on clams and oysters, are also hypercarnivores.
Mesocarnivores depend on animal meat for at least 50 percent of their diet. Foxes are mesocarnivores. They also eat fruits, vegetables, and fungi.
Hypocarnivores depend on animal meat for less than 30 percent of their diet. Most species of bears are hypocarnivores. They eat meat, fish, berries, nuts, and even the roots and bulbs of plants. Hypocarnivores such as bears are also considered omnivores."
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/carnivore/
Mine too, but cats eat grass to make them vomit, usually. Not quite the same.8
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