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The effect of social media on obesity
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The effect of social media on obesity
@aokoye It is what I mentioned Just prior to posting the link. I stated my case regarding social media and how it may affect us "in light of..." the info contained in that article. In other words, social networks have a profound effect on us. We know this, and I believe that social media forms virtual social networks and wanted folks thoughts on how we perceive the effect on us. I see mfp and other sites as vast virtual networks. Do they have a similar effect?0 -
The effect of social media on obesity
@aokoye It is what I mentioned Just prior to posting the link. I stated my case regarding social media and how it may affect us "in light of..." the info contained in that article. In other words, social networks have a profound effect on us. We know this, and I believe that social media forms virtual social networks and wanted folks thoughts on how we perceive the effect on us. I see mfp and other sites as vast virtual networks. Do they have a similar effect?
I also believe that social media can be a form of a social network. That said, I am also well aware that social media is not what was discussed in the article that you linked to. I think MFP is unique compared to most social media in that it revolves around weight management. Given that, if I were to design a study surrounding social media broadly and weight change that included MFP, it would either be an outlier or in a category with other social media revolving around weight.0 -
The effect of social media on obesity
@aokoye It is what I mentioned Just prior to posting the link. I stated my case regarding social media and how it may affect us "in light of..." the info contained in that article. In other words, social networks have a profound effect on us. We know this, and I believe that social media forms virtual social networks and wanted folks thoughts on how we perceive the effect on us. I see mfp and other sites as vast virtual networks. Do they have a similar effect?
I also believe that social media can be a form of a social network. That said, I am also well aware that social media is not what was discussed in the article that you linked to. I think MFP is unique compared to most social media in that it revolves around weight management. Given that, if I were to design a study surrounding social media broadly and weight change that included MFP, it would either be an outlier or in a category with other social media revolving around weight.
I know you saw my admission to a very convoluted thought process
I do think as well that mfp isn't strictly indicative of a social media network per se, but it does have it's components that meet the definitions. If anything it seems to represent a nice sample of both sides of the equation, being common goal oriented social media network alongside a good chunk of social media networking for no other purpose than fun. That last representing certain sub-forums here.
Like minded individuals do seem to flock to like minded and have a positive, or at times negative effect. That's mollified here a bit due to the strict moderation which keeps it from getting out of hand.
That's pretty much the only place I was going with this, in a nutshell. People's effect on each other through various mediums.0 -
glovepuppet wrote: »We're tribal. I think we mimic our tribe, not just anyone we see, as a unifying behaviour. The same way we subconsciously mirror gestures and inflections. It's why peer pressure works.
That's my theory. It may be tripe.
I think that's exactly right. Humans are wired for social groups, so we're very influenced by what we perceive as social norms.
It's not that we can't examine what the people around us are doing, and do something different . . . but it takes a little extra energy or impetus to do that, it's not the easy, float-with-the-current approach. By default, it seems normal to do what people around us are doing, and seems weird to do something very different (to ourselves as well as to those people around us, who may show us that they notice our eccentric behavior).
So, surrounding ourselves with people (real or virtual) who do what we do (or what we want to do) is potentially useful as an intentional strategy.6 -
The effect of social media on obesity
@aokoye It is what I mentioned Just prior to posting the link. I stated my case regarding social media and how it may affect us "in light of..." the info contained in that article. In other words, social networks have a profound effect on us. We know this, and I believe that social media forms virtual social networks and wanted folks thoughts on how we perceive the effect on us. I see mfp and other sites as vast virtual networks. Do they have a similar effect?
I also believe that social media can be a form of a social network. That said, I am also well aware that social media is not what was discussed in the article that you linked to. I think MFP is unique compared to most social media in that it revolves around weight management. Given that, if I were to design a study surrounding social media broadly and weight change that included MFP, it would either be an outlier or in a category with other social media revolving around weight.
I know you saw my admission to a very convoluted thought process1 -
The effect of social media on obesity
@aokoye It is what I mentioned Just prior to posting the link. I stated my case regarding social media and how it may affect us "in light of..." the info contained in that article. In other words, social networks have a profound effect on us. We know this, and I believe that social media forms virtual social networks and wanted folks thoughts on how we perceive the effect on us. I see mfp and other sites as vast virtual networks. Do they have a similar effect?
I also believe that social media can be a form of a social network. That said, I am also well aware that social media is not what was discussed in the article that you linked to. I think MFP is unique compared to most social media in that it revolves around weight management. Given that, if I were to design a study surrounding social media broadly and weight change that included MFP, it would either be an outlier or in a category with other social media revolving around weight.
I know you saw my admission to a very convoluted thought process
Pleasantly not surprised. It's why I enjoy bouncing ideas in debate.2 -
Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
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I would agree that there is an observable effect and impact. Especially considering the experts behind the design of social media tend to severely restrict their use of social media.
The evidence suggests social media has a greater impact on those who put emotion over reason. In particular those who have been trained to recognize and mitigate confirmation bias.
This wouldn't be considered a direct influencer, but it is certainly an indirect influencer as evidenced by the countless threads on this site "My significant other is sabotaging me by keeping junk food in the kitchen". Our friends, virtual or real, have an impact on our behavior.
If you want to excel at something, one of the most effective methods is to surround yourself with like minded people with similar goals.6 -
Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
Pretty sure not, in all cases. If one's social life is all about bonding over meals or drinking, without a lot of more fundamental harmony of character or non-consumables interests, and those folks reject the whole notion of hiking on the weekend or whatever new interests an individual develops, those pseudo-friendships (that seem like friendships in the intial context) tend to drop away in favor of people we met at the gym who think it would be fun to take a long bike ride with us on Saturday. This can happen with any change in shared interests/circumstances, it doesn't require "issues" in any weighty (heh) psychological sense of the term.
As an alternate example, I lost quite a few friends when I became a young widow, because many couples-friends really didn't know what to do with me anymore, and I didn't either. There was no hostility or conflict, just a lack of ongoing shared activity, plus a little bit of psychological discomfort (I reminded them of a dead friend, and they didn't know what to say). Many of those friendships dropped away. I'm very doubtful that it was because I was a "narcissistic *kitten*". We're still all pleasant and friendly to one another if we happen to meet.
But perhaps friend-sets around those who know what RFC2549 is may be a little bit out of the food/drink-focused mainstream . . . and that's a good thing, in my world: Seems I knew, for example, and I spent 30 years around a lot of people who would've. ).6 -
Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...2 -
Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.4 -
Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.
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Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.
So. Video games DON'T cause shootings?
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.
So. Video games DON'T cause shootings?
Only in the US if worldwide statistics are to be believed.
*Edited for spelling/grammar.1 -
My entire facebook is either dogs or fitness related. And of course memes.
But I can see where you are coming from.1 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.
So. Video games DON'T cause shootings?
What's amazing to me is that historically we are living in the most peaceful age of human record, but we are being sold a completely different narrative where anyone watching the news would believe we are in an apocalyptic age.
...and video games...won't someone please think of the pixels....so many pixels...
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.
So. Video games DON'T cause shootings?
What's amazing to me is that historically we are living in the most peaceful age of human record, but we are being sold a completely different narrative where anyone watching the news would believe we are in an apocalyptic age.
...and video games...won't someone please think of the pixels....so many pixels...
I've murdered so many pixels.
*hangs head in shame*2 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »Social media influences people? *shocked*There's a reason people who get really serious about losing weight often also lose friends.
Are you sure it's not because they happen to be narcissistic *kitten*? If losing weight means you end up losing friends, there are likely some issues there.
I've seen the narcissistic behavior come out in some that lost weight, sure, but also have seen folks lose friends simply due to the change in interests as @AnnPT77 pointed out. On the social media front @CSARdiver brought up that emotion over reason (We called it I/E or E/I back in the day) and there are a million studies in confirmation bias alone and that's a reason for concern to me.
Why? I have grandkids that had tablets and phones (movies/music) in their hands before 8 months old. I don't believe there's nothing to worry about, but I try not to step on the parents toes either, so...
Like in all things - movies, comics, D&D, rock music, rap music, social media (whatever the concern over the latest moral panic) this issue comes from lack of contact with the parents/guardians. e.g. a child watching YouTube with a parent can be a remarkable bonding and educational experience. A child watching YouTube by themselves without any context or guidance can be disastrous.
So. Video games DON'T cause shootings?
What's amazing to me is that historically we are living in the most peaceful age of human record, but we are being sold a completely different narrative where anyone watching the news would believe we are in an apocalyptic age.
...and video games...won't someone please think of the pixels....so many pixels...
I've murdered so many pixels.
*hangs head in shame*
Never did see that movie....0 -
@cayenne_007 because I, too, live in NM I resonated with your post on how different this state is from my SoCal upbringing. Interesting to me is that after nearly 30 years of living here I "fit in" in terms of obesity - a far cry from my roots of never too thin, too rich, too etc. outlook of SoCal.
Who and where you are associated with may have more than a subtle influence on health. This is why things beyond my plate are changing - to including friends, activities, and support. MFP is my support venue as is my employer.2
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