Under 1200 for weight-loss
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Pricklypineapple422 wrote: »While scary, I think your post has been really good for me to read. I'm struggling, just trying to lose "the last couple lbs." I have a healthy BMI (19.9), but I still feel I need to lose more weight. I work out 5 or 6 days a week. I don't eat enough to be considered healthy. So many people have told me they are concerned about me, I have people asking if I am anorexic. I tell myself and others I am healthy and just trying to better myself, but when I think about it I truly don't have a healthy relationship with food right now. I've been waiting to see a counselor and have an appointment made, it is a 3 month wait. Losing weight can definitely be a slippery slope... I see my primary care next week and am going to try and get the courage to talk with her about some of these issues I'm facing. Thank you for posting, it has scared me enough to make me fight for help.
@Pricklypineapple422
It's a tough road, especially when dealing with distorted body image! I still to this day have to pictures in a mirror, because when looking in a mirror, I never see myself accurately.
I find silly things inspiring, like the comparison meme of Victoria Secret models to the Dove campaign on real beauty.
I look at things like that and can now honestly say I'd rather feel healthy and strong. Happy with myself, even if I'm not super skinny anymore.
Life and happiness are more important to me now than a number on my pants tag or a digit on the scale.7 -
@Pricklypineapple422
I wouldn't wait too long to ask for help.
Even at a primary care office, they can run a simple quick blood panel and check your electrolytes and nutrition levels and organ enzyme levels.
If coming up with deficiencies, danger is a little more predominant.
Vitamin B deficiencies can lead to muscle mass loss... Heart failure.
Magnesium, Potassium, Sodium too low can lead to heart failure. Magnesium and Potassium deficiencies can first cause muscle cramps (charlie horse).
Iron too low, can lead to anemia which changes menstrual cycles, messes with heart and circulation the body quits making red blood cells, can cause brittle hair, brittle thin nails, can lead to cardiac arrest.
A simple blood draw at the doctor's office can check all of these.
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macchiatto wrote: »Thank you for sharing your story. I'd seen your posts earlier but didn't know all you'd been through before. So glad you survived!
Me too!
Yeah, most on my friend's list and in groups have seen some of my story again and again.
I hate feeling repetitive, and I don't post for sympathy or hugs. I just keep posting story over and over again trying to reach young girls doing exactly what I did, exactly where I was!
It's so sad to me now, to think how much time and energy I spent focusing on looks, that I literally destroyed my body!
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kshama2001 wrote: »I'm bookmarking this to share in all the "VLCD but I feel fine" threads - thanks for sharing!
I can't figure out how to bookmark or copy/paste link on the mobile app. I wish I could link an old post by a tinkerbell about the dangers of low calorie diets on posts about vlcd. The only thing it was missing is the organ failures, it list organ damage, but not failure. It also doesn't mention that the organs can fail with no warning or other symptoms. I felt fine and healthy until I couldn't breathe and swelled up.3 -
I do eat close to 1200 calories, but I use a wheelchair and sit at my desk most days. 3 days a week I go to the gym and eat closer to 1450 on those days so I think I'm taking care of myself, and even with the upped calories I am still losing.
Thank you for the stark yet important reminder!7 -
I do eat close to 1200 calories, but I use a wheelchair and sit at my desk most days. 3 days a week I go to the gym and eat closer to 1450 on those days so I think I'm taking care of myself, and even with the upped calories I am still losing.
Thank you for the stark yet important reminder!
Yeah, I see people on here eating at 1200 calorie mark, but not very active or very short, not in danger! I think you're definitely safe!
I'm warning against more extreme. I don't think most have to worry about these circumstances. But I am seeing more and more lately, and even men eating very low with very high calorie burning exercises (something society's never really seen too much of).
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Thanks for sharing. One of the most meaningful cautionary testimonies I've ever read here. I'll remember it long, long after all of the dust has settled. You're making an impact. Powerful.10
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Pricklypineapple422 wrote: »While scary, I think your post has been really good for me to read. I'm struggling, just trying to lose "the last couple lbs." I have a healthy BMI (19.9), but I still feel I need to lose more weight. I work out 5 or 6 days a week. I don't eat enough to be considered healthy. So many people have told me they are concerned about me, I have people asking if I am anorexic. I tell myself and others I am healthy and just trying to better myself, but when I think about it I truly don't have a healthy relationship with food right now. I've been waiting to see a counselor and have an appointment made, it is a 3 month wait. Losing weight can definitely be a slippery slope... I see my primary care next week and am going to try and get the courage to talk with her about some of these issues I'm facing. Thank you for posting, it has scared me enough to make me fight for help.
Sometimes I also struggle with bringing up things with my doctor. Either embarrassed, don't want to waste their time, I plan to mention but forget, etc. I finally learned to make a list and bring it to my doctor appointment. List of concerns and current issues, and/or a list of questions. And if I can't bring myself to vocalize my concerns I just hand them my typewritten concerns and let them start the conversation. Best to you on your health journey!
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Diatonic12 wrote: »Thanks for sharing. One of the most meaningful cautionary testimonies I've ever read here. I'll remember it long, long after all of the dust has settled. You're making an impact. Powerful.
Thanks!!!
It's tough to talk about, I still have almost like ptsd from it. I'm always scared heart will fail again. If I eat too much sodium, I still end up with edema and panic.8 -
singingflutelady wrote: »That's crazy. I screwed up my stomach and intestines because of anorexia and especially laxative abuse but thankly my heart is strong. My roommate in inpatient ed treatment ended up in the ICU after her heart stopped for 5 minutes. Scary stuff. All the posts about VLCD people anger me especially the ones who say it's ok because they feel fine. I felt fine until I didn't. Now I have at least 2 chronic gastrointestinal diseases which may or may not be associated with former habits. I have had to have major surgery and now have a permanent ileostomy and a jejunostomy feeding tube. I hope people read your story and decide it's not worth it.
@singingflutelady
I meant to mention, one of my sisters (who is my best friend) had bulimia nervosa. She lived on sweets and would binge like crazy (always on sweets--like several boxes of Little Debbie's or Hostess cakes in one sitting) then exercise, she was athletic (track runner, tennis, soft ball, and swimming) and always skinny. She was told due to her diet of living on all sweets she was malnourished, lost some of her toenails (they never grew back). She later abused laxatives, and it messed her stomach up pretty bad and her hormones. Now maintains a healthy weight, eats balanced... Still has to have sweets, but controls portions.
And my baby sister (much younger than myself) is still really messed up, makes herself throw up. She had recently started developing sores in her mouth from the vomiting and just had surgery due to gastro problems. We don't talk, so I don't know all the details.
Yes, a note: Three sisters, all three developed eating disorders. In our house, receiving love was based on how thin, how athletic, and how beautiful you were! Sick, I know!
My mother was a yo yo dieter, always eating fad diets. Obsessed with weight and looks. Would constantly tell us we were looking chubby, even though all three daughters were really thin.
It was crazy!!
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I worry about those people doing the 500 cal diet hypnosis thing atm. My friend suggested I do 500 cal a day to rid myself of a medical issue. I did it for a while but my period stopped, I got anemia and I lost a lot of hair. Thankfully I listened to my body and stopped the silliness. It’s so dangerous! I’m glad your heart has recovered.11
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Hannahwalksfar wrote: »I worry about those people doing the 500 cal diet hypnosis thing atm. My friend suggested I do 500 cal a day to rid myself of a medical issue. I did it for a while but my period stopped, I got anemia and I lost a lot of hair. Thankfully I listened to my body and stopped the silliness. It’s so dangerous! I’m glad your heart has recovered.
@Hannahwalksfar
Glad you stopped!
That is crazy. Reminds me of the diet a few years back with the HCG shots and 800 calorie intake. The sick things people do to lose weight in desperation. It's really sad, because these kinds of diets produce long term (for life) health issues, especially hormone problems for females, and adrenal and thyroid problems in the future.1 -
My weightloss has slowed considerably (still happening but a much slower rate than expected) since I stopped. I’m currently on 1200 plus exercise calories and it’s consistent but glacially slow. My dr said it’s because my body is still recovering and all over the place so it’ll take time foreveryrhing to even out. Moral of the story is just don’t do it. Not worth it.5
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Hannahwalksfar wrote: »My weightloss has slowed considerably (still happening but a much slower rate than expected) since I stopped. I’m currently on 1200 plus exercise calories and it’s consistent but glacially slow. My dr said it’s because my body is still recovering and all over the place so it’ll take time foreveryrhing to even out. Moral of the story is just don’t do it. Not worth it.
@Hannahwalksfar
Exactly!
And at least you're working with a doctor who's keeping an eye on your nutrient, enzyme, and mineral levels, etc!! That's always a relief to hear when it comes to stories like yours.1 -
I started overweight and was on a 1200 calorie diet for a little over 3 months. I have never done a 1200 calorie diet before but I was not exercising this time around so I followed MFP’s calculations. I am a SAHM and “exercise” for me right now is a weekly trip to the grocery store. I always made sure my 1200 calories hit or exceeded all my nutrients for the day and to take my vitamins. Since your post, I’ve spent more time researching and decided to up my calories. I don’t think I fall into the danger zone you described but it did open a new door for me to research if a 1200 calorie diet is really appropriate for most people. I need to research more but according to what I read, eating below BMR isn’t a good thing - which I was doing per MFP’s settings. This is a learning process and this post made me re-evaluate my process.16
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TheRealSlim_Shelly wrote: »I started overweight and was on a 1200 calorie diet for a little over 3 months. I have never done a 1200 calorie diet before but I was not exercising this time around so I followed MFP’s calculations. I am a SAHM and “exercise” for me right now is a weekly trip to the grocery store. I always made sure my 1200 calories hit or exceeded all my nutrients for the day and to take my vitamins. Since your post, I’ve spent more time researching and decided to up my calories. I don’t think I fall into the danger zone you described but it did open a new door for me to research if a 1200 calorie diet is really appropriate for most people. I need to research more but according to what I read, eating below BMR isn’t a good thing - which I was doing per MFP’s settings. This is a learning process and this post made me re-evaluate my process.
You bring up a good point here. Even a 1200 net calorie diet is too low for some women. A good, comprehensive article on the subject:
https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/1200-calorie-diet/
Some people will say, but I didn't choose 1200 calories, that's just what MFP gave me. But that's because the user chose that they wanted to lose 2 lbs/week without the body mass to support it, and MFP's floor for women is 1200.12 -
TheRealSlim_Shelly wrote: »I started overweight and was on a 1200 calorie diet for a little over 3 months. I have never done a 1200 calorie diet before but I was not exercising this time around so I followed MFP’s calculations. I am a SAHM and “exercise” for me right now is a weekly trip to the grocery store. I always made sure my 1200 calories hit or exceeded all my nutrients for the day and to take my vitamins. Since your post, I’ve spent more time researching and decided to up my calories. I don’t think I fall into the danger zone you described but it did open a new door for me to research if a 1200 calorie diet is really appropriate for most people. I need to research more but according to what I read, eating below BMR isn’t a good thing - which I was doing per MFP’s settings. This is a learning process and this post made me re-evaluate my process.
You bring up a good point here. Even a 1200 net calorie diet is too low for some women. A good, comprehensive article on the subject:
https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/1200-calorie-diet/
Some people will say, but I didn't choose 1200 calories, that's just what MFP gave me. But that's because the user chose that they wanted to lose 2 lbs/week without the body mass to support it, and MFP's floor for women is 1200.
Yea this was one of the numerous articles and well, blogs, I came across. I was averaging -1.6lbs per week and then about -1lb, give or take 1 or 2 ounces either way. It can be confusing when the suggested healthy loss is said to be anywhere between 1-2lbs per week. I’ve always tried for a 0.5-1lb loss in the past but I was already on the higher end/border of a healthy weight. Starting over from “overweight” was a new territory for me and I’ve learned a lot. I’ve always had my mind set on exceeding daily nutrient requirements - a lot of times I see diaries of 1200 calories that are empty calories with little nutrition. I think that’s important no matter what number your calories are. Even choosing between sedentary and lightly active was confusing to me - I learned I am actually considered “lightly active” since I lost a little more than MFP predicted each week. Even though I don’t formally do any exercise and I would call myself sedentary, I do still burn more with my daily activities around the house than I thought. It’s really important to study your trends against MFP’s suggestions, which is what I learned this time around. I feel stupid for it, but before this post I really didn’t understand what BMR was nor did I realize I was eating under it.
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TheRealSlim_Shelly wrote: »I started overweight and was on a 1200 calorie diet for a little over 3 months. I have never done a 1200 calorie diet before but I was not exercising this time around so I followed MFP’s calculations. I am a SAHM and “exercise” for me right now is a weekly trip to the grocery store. I always made sure my 1200 calories hit or exceeded all my nutrients for the day and to take my vitamins. Since your post, I’ve spent more time researching and decided to up my calories. I don’t think I fall into the danger zone you described but it did open a new door for me to research if a 1200 calorie diet is really appropriate for most people. I need to research more but according to what I read, eating below BMR isn’t a good thing - which I was doing per MFP’s settings. This is a learning process and this post made me re-evaluate my process.
@TheRealSlim_Shelly
Better safe than sorry. I just upped my calories because I was losing too fast. I've been back on here tracking trying to drop a few I've gained due to an illness.
I had my goal set for 1410... Was dropping weight way to quick for comfort, just upped to 1689, going to see if that slows me down a little.
I've definitely developed paranoia over my calorie intake... Along with my nutrients and electrolytes!
Wish you well on your weight loss journey!!1 -
🤗 Thank you for sharing your story. I am positive it will continue to help others!
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GOSH! That is definitely a horror story. Glad you have recovered. I think we all forget that our vital organs also are stressed during weight loss. It's why I am not a huge fan of the current "fasting" craze. Or any craze for that matter. I don't think 1200 is a magic # as each person probably has their own unique # where their body is going to try to consume itself. Thank you for sharing your story.6
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If you were eating such low cals (800-1000) AND exercising every day then really you could have been around 4/500-700 cals a day. Or even less if you were exercising vigorously. Sorry to be blunt but this screams ED. Especially the part where you say you would ‘binge at 1200 cals’ then do an hour aerobic exercise after. 1200 cals is no way a binge and it’s okay to have treats and not do 2 hours of exercise in the day for them.
I’m so sorry to hear of your story.
I hope others eat and exercise safely.
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Apologies, just seen another one of your posts re anorexia4
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charl152526 wrote: »Apologies, just seen another one of your posts re anorexia
@charl152526
It's okay.
I was definitely mentally ill with eating disorder, just didn't realize it at the time. Most suffering from eating disorders are in denial or don't realize they are hurting themselves. (In their minds, they are just trying to lose a few pounds or a couple of more and think they are healthy).
In my sick mind, 100 calories of fruit was a binge. I'm in my 40s now, much better place mentally with my relationship to food and exercise. I look back and realize just how sick I was, how sick my sister was, and how our mother's mental illness influenced behaviors and thought patterns about how food, size, weight, beauty, and dieting correlated to happiness, love, attention, and keeping a mate satisfied.
LOL, when my own daughter was around 4 yrs old wearing a size 4T, my mother came to visit, told my toddler daughter she was looking chubby....OMG, I screamed at my mother that she is never allowed to comment on my daughter's weight or she would be cut out of her granddaughter's life!
I wanted my daughter to feel loved and accepted no matter what she looked like or how much she weighed, I wanted her to love herself!
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rheddmobile wrote: »Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »The reason I put my size and weight is to show, dropping too low of calories and exercising is dangerous even if you're not sickly thin.
People have a preconceived notion that someone who dies from an anorexic calorie intake are so thin they are skeletal. I thought this before it happened to me.
You could weigh 175 lbs at 5'8" and heart could fail if calories are dropped too low combined with exercise... All it takes for heart to fail is a little muscle mass loss, electrolytes get too low, or electrolytes to get unbalanced. Any one of these three factors can cause heart failure from eating too low of calories, increased risks with exercise added into the equation.
Yep, absolutely! That’s how Terri Shiavo ended up in a coma as I understand it - messed up her electrolytes. It can happen very quickly!
Thank you for the warning post and cautionary tale, hopefully it will reach some of the people contemplating doing something similar.
Sorry for changing the subject but I wanted to clarify, that based on my readings and recollection of her case, that I don't think that the reason for Terri going into a sudden coma has been clearly defined. But I would appreciate if @ rheddmobile can provide me with a link or an article documenting that Terri collapsed of messed up electrolytes.0 -
@Gisel2015
I don't know this case or who Terri is. But I looked it up after it was commented here. This is one article that I read.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7318508/ns/health-womens_health/t/eating-disorder-rootof-terri-schiavo-case/
It says she ended up with heart failure and severe brain damage from bulimia, due to the dehydration from vomiting and laxatives messing with her electrolytes. I guess dehydration can be added to my original list of what causes dangerous shifts in electrolytes when combined with eating disorders.
It is scary stuff, because when you're going through it, you literally just think you're trying to drop a few pounds.6 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »The reason I put my size and weight is to show, dropping too low of calories and exercising is dangerous even if you're not sickly thin.
People have a preconceived notion that someone who dies from an anorexic calorie intake are so thin they are skeletal. I thought this before it happened to me.
You could weigh 175 lbs at 5'8" and heart could fail if calories are dropped too low combined with exercise... All it takes for heart to fail is a little muscle mass loss, electrolytes get too low, or electrolytes to get unbalanced. Any one of these three factors can cause heart failure from eating too low of calories, increased risks with exercise added into the equation.
Yep, absolutely! That’s how Terri Shiavo ended up in a coma as I understand it - messed up her electrolytes. It can happen very quickly!
Thank you for the warning post and cautionary tale, hopefully it will reach some of the people contemplating doing something similar.
Sorry for changing the subject but I wanted to clarify, that based on my readings and recollection of her case, that I don't think that the reason for Terri going into a sudden coma has been clearly defined. But I would appreciate if @ rheddmobile can provide me with a link or an article documenting that Terri collapsed of messed up electrolytes.Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »@Gisel2015
I don't know this case or who Terri is. But I looked it up after it was commented here. This is one article that I read.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7318508/ns/health-womens_health/t/eating-disorder-rootof-terri-schiavo-case/
It says she ended up with heart failure and severe brain damage from bulimia, due to the dehydration from vomiting and laxatives messing with her electrolytes. I guess dehydration can be added to my original list of what causes dangerous shifts in electrolytes when combined with eating disorders.
It is scary stuff, because when you're going through it, you literally just think you're trying to drop a few pounds.
This article covers basically what I had heard, I don’t have any special knowledge beyond what was on the news at the time. As I understand it, her parents denied she had ever had an eating disorder, but their denial seems to have been more based on what they wanted to be true than reality.
This is from the Wikipedia article on the case, and you can find the attributions there.
The cause of Terri Schiavo's collapse was determined to be cardiac arrest.[13] Her medical chart contained a note that "she apparently has been trying to keep her weight down with dieting by herself, drinking liquids most of the time during the day and drinking about 10–15 glasses of iced tea".[14] Upon admission to the hospital, she was noted as suffering from hypokalemia (low potassium levels): her serum potassium level was an abnormally low 2.0 mEq/L (the normal range for adults is 3.5–5.0 mEq/L). Her sodium and calcium levels were normal.[15] Electrolyte imbalance is often caused by drinking excessive fluids. A serious consequence of hypokalemia can be heart rhythm abnormalities, including sudden arrhythmia death syndrome.[16]2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »The reason I put my size and weight is to show, dropping too low of calories and exercising is dangerous even if you're not sickly thin.
People have a preconceived notion that someone who dies from an anorexic calorie intake are so thin they are skeletal. I thought this before it happened to me.
You could weigh 175 lbs at 5'8" and heart could fail if calories are dropped too low combined with exercise... All it takes for heart to fail is a little muscle mass loss, electrolytes get too low, or electrolytes to get unbalanced. Any one of these three factors can cause heart failure from eating too low of calories, increased risks with exercise added into the equation.
Yep, absolutely! That’s how Terri Shiavo ended up in a coma as I understand it - messed up her electrolytes. It can happen very quickly!
Thank you for the warning post and cautionary tale, hopefully it will reach some of the people contemplating doing something similar.
Sorry for changing the subject but I wanted to clarify, that based on my readings and recollection of her case, that I don't think that the reason for Terri going into a sudden coma has been clearly defined. But I would appreciate if @ rheddmobile can provide me with a link or an article documenting that Terri collapsed of messed up electrolytes.Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »@Gisel2015
I don't know this case or who Terri is. But I looked it up after it was commented here. This is one article that I read.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7318508/ns/health-womens_health/t/eating-disorder-rootof-terri-schiavo-case/
It says she ended up with heart failure and severe brain damage from bulimia, due to the dehydration from vomiting and laxatives messing with her electrolytes. I guess dehydration can be added to my original list of what causes dangerous shifts in electrolytes when combined with eating disorders.
It is scary stuff, because when you're going through it, you literally just think you're trying to drop a few pounds.
This article covers basically what I had heard, I don’t have any special knowledge beyond what was on the news at the time. As I understand it, her parents denied she had ever had an eating disorder, but their denial seems to have been more based on what they wanted to be true than reality.
This is from the Wikipedia article on the case, and you can find the attributions there.
The cause of Terri Schiavo's collapse was determined to be cardiac arrest.[13] Her medical chart contained a note that "she apparently has been trying to keep her weight down with dieting by herself, drinking liquids most of the time during the day and drinking about 10–15 glasses of iced tea".[14] Upon admission to the hospital, she was noted as suffering from hypokalemia (low potassium levels): her serum potassium level was an abnormally low 2.0 mEq/L (the normal range for adults is 3.5–5.0 mEq/L). Her sodium and calcium levels were normal.[15] Electrolyte imbalance is often caused by drinking excessive fluids. A serious consequence of hypokalemia can be heart rhythm abnormalities, including sudden arrhythmia death syndrome.[16]
Another link. But when determining a cause of death, autopsy is listed as unknown. But this is common with heart problems. The autopsy did show chemical imbalances in her body, and organ damage due to eating disorder.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/news/20050325/eating-disorder-underlies-schiavo-tragedy
My parents would've denied that any of their three daughters battled with eating disorders. More types of denial! Especially when dealing with the death of your child.3 -
Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »@Pricklypineapple422
I wouldn't wait too long to ask for help.
Even at a primary care office, they can run a simple quick blood panel and check your electrolytes and nutrition levels and organ enzyme levels.
If coming up with deficiencies, danger is a little more predominant.
Vitamin B deficiencies can lead to muscle mass loss... Heart failure.
Magnesium, Potassium, Sodium too low can lead to heart failure. Magnesium and Potassium deficiencies can first cause muscle cramps (charlie horse).
Iron too low, can lead to anemia which changes menstrual cycles, messes with heart and circulation the body quits making red blood cells, can cause brittle hair, brittle thin nails, can lead to cardiac arrest.
A simple blood draw at the doctor's office can check all of these.
Had my appointment today, discussed my concerns. All of my bloodwork and vital signs came back normal, I'm completely healthy. And I'm going to focus on maintaining instead of losing more weight. Both my doctor and I are happy19 -
Pricklypineapple422 wrote: »Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »@Pricklypineapple422
I wouldn't wait too long to ask for help.
Even at a primary care office, they can run a simple quick blood panel and check your electrolytes and nutrition levels and organ enzyme levels.
If coming up with deficiencies, danger is a little more predominant.
Vitamin B deficiencies can lead to muscle mass loss... Heart failure.
Magnesium, Potassium, Sodium too low can lead to heart failure. Magnesium and Potassium deficiencies can first cause muscle cramps (charlie horse).
Iron too low, can lead to anemia which changes menstrual cycles, messes with heart and circulation the body quits making red blood cells, can cause brittle hair, brittle thin nails, can lead to cardiac arrest.
A simple blood draw at the doctor's office can check all of these.
Had my appointment today, discussed my concerns. All of my bloodwork and vital signs came back normal, I'm completely healthy. And I'm going to focus on maintaining instead of losing more weight. Both my doctor and I are happy
@Pricklypineapple422
That is awesome news!!!
I focus on feeling fit and strong and try to maintain a healthy weight now too.
Learn to love yourself for who you are! People who overcome eating disorders usually realize all the insecurities were a waste of time and mentally draining. Seek happiness and health!6 -
Thank you to all of you that posted articles clarifying Terri Schiavo's situation. The ordeal of the last weeks of her life (legal fights between her parents and husband, plus political intervention), were so strong that completed negated the reality of her life and years in coma. May she rest in peace.3
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