Going to try intermittent fasting - anyone want to join me?

I've been trying to lose some weight & while I've quit gaining, I'm not losing... and I'm BAD overweight... researched intermittent fasting & it looks like it would be healthy if done right, lots of good health benefits to the method & workable with a full time job while raising 2 grandsons...

So, my challenge for myself is as follows:

About me:
Grandma to 4 younglings from ages 5 to 13
Current weight: 230.2
Goal weight: 150 ish
Timing: I'd like to drop about 5 lbs a week which should get me there around Christmas... not likely to happen, but I'm going to try it.

Gma in West Tennessee

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  • kds10
    kds10 Posts: 452 Member
    Terytha wrote: »
    You cannot safely lose 5 lbs a week. That's a 2500 calorie per day deficit. You probably don't even eat that much, so to get 5 lbs a week you'd have to eat nothing at all, plus do exercise.

    At your weight you can aim for 2 lbs per week, but even that is gonna be pretty aggressive.

    Intermittent fasting still relies on CICO to work, it's not a magic thing that will allow you to drop more weight than usual. It's a valid strategy so go ahead and see if it works for you, but please be safe and do this sustainably.

    True I have done both. I am a fan of IF...but switched it up a month ago to eating in a 10 hour window (including breakfast) instead of a six hour eating window I just am eating less and still losing weight. It is easier to eat less at supper when I know that 14 hours later I can have breakfast so it all evens out IMO
  • Taytaylynn92
    Taytaylynn92 Posts: 230 Member
    This is my 3rd week doing IF and I love it!
  • gma38059
    gma38059 Posts: 25 Member
    lgfrie wrote: »
    Suggestion: If you want to try IF, just start the easy way: 16:8. You don't need to fast every third day from bedtime till supper too - that'll probably drive you nuts and lead to binging.

    Dieting is one of those things where simplicity really pays off. You're talking about 16:8 IF, low carb, twice a week starvation from morning till dinner ... that's a lot of challenges being stacked on top of each other. Keep it simple. Go get yourself a calorie target from the MFP goals too, and hit that target every single day. If 16:8 IF helps you do that, great! You don't need anything else beyond that - carbs, less carbs, whole day fasts - those are all distractions.

    Just my 2 cents.
    lgfrie wrote: »
    Suggestion: If you want to try IF, just start the easy way: 16:8. You don't need to fast every third day from bedtime till supper too - that'll probably drive you nuts and lead to binging.

    Dieting is one of those things where simplicity really pays off. You're talking about 16:8 IF, low carb, twice a week starvation from morning till dinner ... that's a lot of challenges being stacked on top of each other. Keep it simple. Go get yourself a calorie target from the MFP goals too, and hit that target every single day. If 16:8 IF helps you do that, great! You don't need anything else beyond that - carbs, less carbs, whole day fasts - those are all distractions.

    Just my 2 cents.


    I agree. I looked at the every third day and it did seem a little much to do a all day fast. I'm going to do the 16:8 from supper one day until lunch the next - with overnight sleep included, it isn't as hard. I don't go to bed hungry and I drink coffee in mornings which helps with the hunger before lunch. I eat a normal lunch & supper on my fast days and limit to 1100 calories on non-fasting days. It appears to be working since so far this week, I'm down almost 2 lbs which I think is reasonable.

    Gma
  • lgfrie
    lgfrie Posts: 1,449 Member
    edited October 2019
    gma38059 wrote: »
    I agree. I looked at the every third day and it did seem a little much to do a all day fast. I'm going to do the 16:8 from supper one day until lunch the next - with overnight sleep included, it isn't as hard. I don't go to bed hungry and I drink coffee in mornings which helps with the hunger before lunch. I eat a normal lunch & supper on my fast days and limit to 1100 calories on non-fasting days. It appears to be working since so far this week, I'm down almost 2 lbs which I think is reasonable.

    Gma

    I think you've got a solid approach there (except for the 1100 calorie part, 1200 is the minimum recommended for anyone and the extra 100 cals would be inconsequential for your weight loss). I know for myself doing 16:8 (11 am - 7 pm) is exceptionally easy in that it gives me two full size, non-diety meals per day while still coming in at my MFP calorie target. My hunger and interest in food has absolutely plummeted outside the eating window and I rarely if ever feel even the slightest hunger pang between dinner and bedtime anymore, whereas in the old days I was positively ravenous in the evenings and would make late-late night trips to 7-11 for junk food, something I never, ever do anymore. Also, I used to wake up very hungry but even after a couple weeks of 16:8 I was waking up with zero hunger or interest in food, and that has pretty much continued. Every once in a while I'll have breakfast now, because I love carby breakfast food like waffles and bagels, but honestly it's so much harder to make everything fit calorically when I expend calories outside the 11-7 window that most days I just stay on the 16:8 plan and am content doing so.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    gma38059 wrote: »
    lgfrie wrote: »
    Suggestion: If you want to try IF, just start the easy way: 16:8. You don't need to fast every third day from bedtime till supper too - that'll probably drive you nuts and lead to binging.

    Dieting is one of those things where simplicity really pays off. You're talking about 16:8 IF, low carb, twice a week starvation from morning till dinner ... that's a lot of challenges being stacked on top of each other. Keep it simple. Go get yourself a calorie target from the MFP goals too, and hit that target every single day. If 16:8 IF helps you do that, great! You don't need anything else beyond that - carbs, less carbs, whole day fasts - those are all distractions.

    Just my 2 cents.
    lgfrie wrote: »
    Suggestion: If you want to try IF, just start the easy way: 16:8. You don't need to fast every third day from bedtime till supper too - that'll probably drive you nuts and lead to binging.

    Dieting is one of those things where simplicity really pays off. You're talking about 16:8 IF, low carb, twice a week starvation from morning till dinner ... that's a lot of challenges being stacked on top of each other. Keep it simple. Go get yourself a calorie target from the MFP goals too, and hit that target every single day. If 16:8 IF helps you do that, great! You don't need anything else beyond that - carbs, less carbs, whole day fasts - those are all distractions.

    Just my 2 cents.


    I agree. I looked at the every third day and it did seem a little much to do a all day fast. I'm going to do the 16:8 from supper one day until lunch the next - with overnight sleep included, it isn't as hard. I don't go to bed hungry and I drink coffee in mornings which helps with the hunger before lunch. I eat a normal lunch & supper on my fast days and limit to 1100 calories on non-fasting days. It appears to be working since so far this week, I'm down almost 2 lbs which I think is reasonable.

    Gma

    So you are not counting calories on your fast days? That is a recipe for failure. Instead of having 5 days where you eat whatever 16:8 and 2 days where you undereat but all day, you might be happier counting and eating the same calorie goal each day. You can still do the fasting 16:8 every day if the schedule works for you. Remember: how much you eat is critical, when you eat is not.
  • gma38059
    gma38059 Posts: 25 Member
    I have decided to follow a modified Akins plan. I keep net carbs at 25 or less daily. Along with that, I'm trying to keep my calories at 1500 or less. Started this early in December and am down 10 lbs total so far. I didn't start tracking weight for the first week or so, but started at 233. Losing slow, which I prefer.
  • gma38059
    gma38059 Posts: 25 Member
    so, using intermittent fasting and low carb (net carbs 25 or less per day), I'm down 17 lbs. I kind of fell off the wagon when the quarantine started because I bought more for my kids & grands than for my diet and carbs were more than I should have gotten. Back on track and down 2 lbs this week so far. I'd like to see 2 - 3 lbs per week, but that may be ambitious.

    How is everyone else coning along?
  • joyanna2016
    joyanna2016 Posts: 323 Member
    I've been doing IF for the first time ever about 4 months now. I like it a lot. Let me offer one word of advice. Usually during my fast time I dont struggle with hunger too much. The times when I notice that I struggle is when ive consumed more sugar/carbs during my last eating period. So my advice to a beginner is watch the sugars and you won't struggle with hunger. Good luck!!
  • sashimimaniac
    sashimimaniac Posts: 71 Member
    IF helps me deal with unnecessary snacking and it does have other health benefits too if done right. i’m definitely a proponent.
  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    @gma38059 I have no desire to rain on your parade but how about tracking all of your data points with MFP right out of the chute.
    Start here.
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300331/most-helpful-posts-getting-started-must-reads#latest

    After you have your sea legs you can make some additional tweaks as you're tooling along. You need the basics under your belt. Don't mind me, I'm just going to shoot it to you straight from the hips and lips. I am a leader on a private thread. It was the largest Intermittent Fasting group at one time with over 7500 members.

    Do you know how many found long term success and permanent weight stability with intermittent fasting? I have no idea because I haven't heard back from any of them. This thread is 9 years old. I can count the active members on one hand. It's called TRE. Time Restricted Eating which is simply eating all of my meals within a window of time.

    I don't fast at all. No fasting. No every other day fasting. No 5:2 fasting. No fasting whatsoever. I track my data points eating the recommended amount of calories with MFP. @gma38059 Do you know how many people have tried to overcompensate with intermittent fasting to improve a poor relationship with food only to find themselves starting over and over and over again. We simply haven't got the time but I'm here to tell you that it's not worth it.

    I hear from newbies on a regular basis asking me if this the Intermittent Fasting thread. There's nothing on the title to indicate that it is now so I have no idea why they continue to ask if it's the Intermittent Fasting group. I'm not going to lead anyone down another pathway to a deadend road with food and rebound weight gain with friends.

    Listen to @lgfrie. Most people can only lose 2-3 lbs of fat in a month's time. Then you're going to find yourself with diminishing returns losing more of your muscle mass and finding yourself with loose hanging skin. There are oodles of threads about that. Yoyo dieting with wild swings UP and down with weight contribute to loose skin and digging yourself into a much deeper into a hole with food. Don't go there.

    Start with basics. Track your data points and just settle into a solid routine. Edge your way down slowly. You'll have a much better chance of actually getting there and staying there. Long term stability with weight. That's my overall goal.
  • sashimimaniac
    sashimimaniac Posts: 71 Member
    @ccrdragon anecdotally speaking, I would say that IF helped clear up my skin a little and I observed that one of my friend’s liver spots lightened noticeably after going on IF for a few months. Both of us did nothing else differently except starting IF.

    There are lots of websites that list out the health benefits like:
    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting

    However, not everyone will find IF their cup of tea, especially women:
    https://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/

    Which leads us to doing it right. My biggest concern is with people who dive into it - some people jump right into one meal a day or doggedly persist with fasting when they are feeling faint. Even a 16 hour fast can be challenging for some. When I started in December, I couldn’t stick with 16 hours and ended up doing 12, then 13, etc till i made it up to 16 hours on an almost daily basis. Acclimatising to my new way of eating took a month. Your body does need time to adjust.

    I would definitely recommend IF because decision making became easier. Too often, in the past, I would find myself in front of my fridge at midnight, thinking, “Just a handful of jelly beans won’t hurt, right?” Then, I end up eating the whole family sized bag. Now, the kitchen is off-limits at about 6pm. If I’m watching The Witcher, it’s just him and me and no Cheetos between us. If I’m hungry before bedtime, I’ve learnt to deal with it or if I’m REALLY hungry and can’t sleep, I’ll have a little something. Yes, I’ll break the fast! No big deal because I’m on point most of the time. The best thing is that “a little something” really is that because my appetite is no longer as big as it once was.

    Hope that clarifies some of my points :)
  • gma38059
    gma38059 Posts: 25 Member
    As of today, down a total of 20 lbs in spite of the quarantine... I will say, the IF wasn't as much of a help as I'd hoped. I was already almost doing that anyways with my schedule. I have stayed with low carb, but use the NET carb approach. That has worked when I can stay with it. This quarantine did make that a bit harder.

    Started this journey: 233.4 lbs
    Today: 212.4 lbs

    The biggest thing I've noticed is that I'm no longer staying bloated - I may be a little carb sensitive because when I eat breads I get extremely bloated. When I back off on the carbs, I'm really gassy for a couple of days, but appear to lose several pounds (size) without losing hardly any weight.

    How is everyone else making it? Quarantine life didn't get me - got one of those essential jobs in the OEM for electric grid components, so I didn't have to go stir crazy and find things to occupy me to stay out of the fridge!
  • gma38059
    gma38059 Posts: 25 Member
    yay! I broke the 210 mark a week ago. Still doing the IF, but also low net carbs and it's working.